Subject: Ackanomic Digest V1 #227
From: [email-masked] (Ackanomic Digest)
To: ackanomic-digest

Ackanomic Digest      Friday, September 13 1996      Volume 01 : Number 227

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:26:19 -0400
From: "Matt Miller" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction

Now here I was, just about to bid, and I suddenly lose confidence in snowgod's
integrity!  Where's my ad?! 

IdiotBoy
Not sure how enforceable my contract is.
(Seriously-Moon-etc.)

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> From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Acka: Auction
> Date: Thursday, September 12, 1996 6:14 PM
> 
> The current High Bid for the vending machine is A$35, bid by Habeous Corpus.
> Do I hear A$40?
> 
> Chief Cheese
> 

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:48:48 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: Auction 

Thu current Hig Bid for the Vending Machine is A$50 by Idiot Boy.  Guy
Fawkes' bid of A$40 was the high bid for a period of about 7 minutes.

frozenwaterdiety

frozenwaterdiety

Ackanomic Ambassador - Liason to Internomic - President
Inventor - Former Senator (seat a)  - Heretic (4 times!) - Former CSRR
Priest, Church of the Markovian Dream - Member, None Yet
Wearing a prosthetic forehead - Fighting Forehead Discrimination

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:48:42 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction 

>Now here I was, just about to bid, and I suddenly lose confidence in snowgod's
>integrity!  Where's my ad?!
>
>
>IdiotBoy
>Not sure how enforceable my contract is.
>(Seriously-Moon-etc.)
>
>----------
>> From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
>> To: [email-masked]
>> Subject: Acka: Auction
>> Date: Thursday, September 12, 1996 6:14 PM
>>
>> The current High Bid for the vending machine is A$35, bid by Habeous Corpus.
>> Do I hear A$40?
>>
>> Chief Cheese
>>

Before hitting the SEND button, I carefully considered attaching an ad to
this message, however I decided not to for two reasons:

1) It is an official message concerning the sale of an acka enitity
2) It was posted by chierf cheese rather than frozenwaterdiety (ther is a
distinction)

I will continue to post ads on all non cheese messages.

frozenwaterdiety

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:32:59 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Latest PFBond Quotes

>  From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
> >  I'm offering 20 PFNiccolo for sale. Just start Bidding.
> > 
> > Niccolo Flychuck
> > 
> > 
> 
> I will buy PFNiccolo  20 @ A$57 
> 
> IdiotBoy
> 
> Advertisement:
> Don't miss those first wave profits:  join the bond market today, ask IdiotBoy
> advice on keeping risk low.
> 
I must say, these are the ones I really want.  My bid is all 20 for 
A$100.

Techno 
"Don't learn the tricks of the trade, learn the trade."

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:32:59 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Return from Vacation

> From: mr cwm
> 
> I hereby return from vacation, and wonder aloud what has happened in my
> absence to make pfBonds worth buying.
> 

mr cwm, 

Please consider this offer as one time only.

I offer A$50 for 25 PFmr cwm.

Techno
"Don't learn the tricks of the trade, learn the trade."

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:32:59 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Also Invoking R115

> 
> > From: robert gene shimmin <[email-masked]>
> > I create an entity called the Fuzzy Green Mold.  It immediatly destroys all 
> > extant unProtected (or unprotected) entities whose names refer to any dairy 
> > product, regardless of their destructibility.  This includes Malenkai's 
> > Cheese Box.
> 
> 

Didn't Malenkai make the Cheese Box a protected entity?  You claim 
your mold only destroys unprotected entities.

Techno
"Don't learn the tricks of the trade, learn the trade."

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:32:59 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Ackanomic: Proposal 1230

> Proposal 1230 - Thu Sep 12 13:42:01 EDT 1996
> Actually *reducing* the incentive to vote "No"
> /dev/joe  (Joseph DeVincentis)
> 
> Amend rule 207, by changing "3 points." both times it occurs to:
> 
>  "3 points, except for those players who have received 9 points or more from
>  this rule for voting YES and/or NO on the previous 10 proposals (by number)."
> 
> 
>
I think it should be obvious that this should be voted down.

Vote NO on  P1230

Techno
"Don't learn the tricks of the trade, learn the trade."

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:31:54 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Ackanomic: Proposal 1230

[email-masked] wrote:
> 
> > Proposal 1230 - Thu Sep 12 13:42:01 EDT 1996
> > Actually *reducing* the incentive to vote "No"
> > /dev/joe  (Joseph DeVincentis)
> >
> > Amend rule 207, by changing "3 points." both times it occurs to:
> >
> >  "3 points, except for those players who have received 9 points or more 
> > from
> >  this rule for voting YES and/or NO on the previous 10 proposals (by 
> > number)."
> >
> >
> >
> I think it should be obvious that this should be voted down.

I agree with Techno on this one.  Vote NO on P 1230.

Malenkai
This space for sale, A$1 per post, in my capacity as a player.

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:20:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Ackanomic: Proposal 1230

Techno and Malenkai wrote:
> > > Proposal 1230 - Thu Sep 12 13:42:01 EDT 1996
> > > Actually *reducing* the incentive to vote "No"
> > > /dev/joe  (Joseph DeVincentis)
> > >
> > > Amend rule 207, by changing "3 points." both times it occurs to:
> > >
> > >  "3 points, except for those players who have received 9 points or more 
> > > from
> > >  this rule for voting YES and/or NO on the previous 10 proposals (by 
> > > number)."

> > I think it should be obvious that this should be voted down.

> I agree with Techno on this one.  Vote NO on P 1230.

Any particular reason you two dislike this proposal?  It provides a
dis-incentive for the chronic NO voters, much as the amendment to the
consecutive passages rule puts a limit on the score that one player can
get over a short period by that method.

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:34:29 -0400
From: "Matt Miller" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Return from Vacation

From: [email-masked]
> mr cwm, 
> 
> Please consider this offer as one time only.
> 
> I offer A$50 for 25 PFmr cwm.
> 
> 
> Techno
> "Don't learn the tricks of the trade, learn the trade."

mr cwm,

Those of us who are familiar with both the trade and the tricks thereof, know
which way Techno leans.

I hereby offer A$65 for 20 PFmr cwm.

IdiotBoy

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newcomers to the bond trade.  IdiotBoy will be happy to provide an unbiased
valuation of all bonds in your portfolio.

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:32:15 -0400
From: "Matt Miller" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: RFC: Welcome to the Welfare State.

It's unpopular, but it has to be done.  Taxes come to Ackanomia.
RFC on the text between the ---.

- ---
I.  There exists an Institution known as the Council of Elders.

II.  There are three seats in the Council of Elders.  A player occupying a seat
in the Council of Elders shall be known as an Elder Statesman (plural: Elder
Statesmen). {{The three seats are vacant.}}

III.  In the case of a vacancy of a seat in the Council of Elders, the following
procedure shall be used to fill it.
 
	A. The Registrar will select a nominee.  This nominee will be the active player
who has been registered for the game the longest and has not ever held a seat in
the Council of Elders.

	B. The Registrar will announce the name of the nominee on the Public Forum.
 
	C. The nominee will have 3 days to accept or decline this seat.  If the nominee
fails to respond within 3 days, e shall be considered to have declined.

	D. In the case of more than one seat being vacant concurrently, the Registrar
may select a number of nominees equal to the number of vacant seats.
 
      Upon acceptance of the nomination, the nominee will immeadiately take eir
seat in the Council of Elders.

IV.  The Council of Elders may create a Tax (plural Taxes) by announcing that it
is doing so in a message to the Public Forum, provided that the Tax is
collectable as defined the the Rules

V.  The Council of Elders has the priviledge to collect any Taxes which meet the
following criteria:
 
	A. Taxes may only be collected in A$.

	B. Taxes may only be charged based on a Player's manipulation of Protected
Entities.

	C. A Tax must clearly state where the generated revenue will go.

	D. Not more than 20% of the revenue from any Tax shall go to the accounts of
the Elder Statesmen.

VI.  All Taxes which meet the criteria in section V are collectable.

VII. This rule takes precedance over all Rules which would preclude the Council
of Elders from creating and collecting Taxes.

- ---

Lots of whitespace for you to lob your comments into.

IdiotBoy

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:58:40 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Ackanomic: Proposal 1230

Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
> 
> Techno and Malenkai wrote:
> > > > Proposal 1230 - Thu Sep 12 13:42:01 EDT 1996
> > > > Actually *reducing* the incentive to vote "No"
> > > > /dev/joe  (Joseph DeVincentis)

> Any particular reason you two dislike this proposal?  It provides a
> dis-incentive for the chronic NO voters, much as the amendment to the
> consecutive passages rule puts a limit on the score that one player can
> get over a short period by that method.

1) If it were clearer cut, ie, just NO instead of YES/NO, I would probably
support it (more on this below).

2) It compromises my previous rewrite of R 207, by shifting more of the
burden back to proposal writing, it also takes away the 10/4 payoff, in
alot of the YES cases, which I put in to encourage more creative, and
risky content.  I have no problem with the no-brainer proposals, when
they actually do something, but, as you know, I wanted a rewrite that
encourges more FUN proposals.

3) It may be too complex for another scorekeeper.  I have confidence in
your ability as scorekeeper to track it, but I have made fallacious
assumptions in the past that the duty of a particular officer would always
be performed by that officer, and have been burned.  Right now I am
swamped with work, so I guess I'm an anti more work mood, even if it
is not my work.  I guess, too some extent, we are making assumptions on
the underlying technology of this game anyway.

4) I dislike the cronic NO voting by a handful of players as much as anyone
else, and surely wish to see it fixed (hence 1 above), but I admit I 
sometimes vote based on scoring strategy (but under very stringit
criteria), and this system would be too complex, for me personally, to
think about, especially in this current high-bandwidth usage, increased
work era.  

So, if you don't penalize the YES vote, I would vote YES.

I was also thinking about the fact that Modest proposals are almost always
short.  I don't know.  The whole payoff thing seems unfair, in many ways.
For example, I spent about 4 hours on "Publically Knowable", "Locations",
"Financier Rewrite", etc, and each is worth less than P 1177 would have
been.  Its almost like there is incentive to write buggy rules, then
clean up on the no-brainer amendments.  I accuse no one of this, its just
the way it works out, and I admit to cleaning up buggy rules myself,
but the buggier the first rule, the more no-brainer amendments.  I
was thinking of a bonus for a proposal that creates a new rule, the 
obvious loophole:

Create a new rule reading:
{{replace all X with Y in rule Z.}}

Mabye we should take the short bonus out of Modesty.  I love the game
so much that it really  doesn't bother me that much, so I don't know,
I have no solution here. I don't know if I have a problem here.

Malenkai
wordy

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:10:02 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: RFC: Welcome to the Welfare State.

Matt Miller wrote:
> 
> It's unpopular, but it has to be done.  Taxes come to Ackanomia.
> RFC on the text between the ---.
> 
> ---
> I.  There exists an Institution known as the Council of Elders.
> 

We already have a Hall of Elders, this may run afoul of R 703, and
be possibly confusing, if it does not.

I apologize for no further comments.  Its not that I don't like the
RFC, but I have other game-related work to do.  I will read it.  A
preliminary comment is better than none, I suppose.

While your kicking this around, I had an idea that would create an
Institution composed of all the functional officers that run the
game (ie, not the Chess-Umpire, Historian, GameMaster, and those
'non-essential' F.O.s (no offense intented to anyone, hopefully
the gist is gotten)), but I did not know where to take the idea,
except to the trashcan.  Anyone is free to develop it.

Also for an Elder type position, you may want to be explicit in terms
of "time in game", not time since joining.  Many players have quit and
come back, others have been on extremely long vacations.  I would
recommend something like "days in the game not on vacation".  More work
for someone :)

Malenkai
none of my comments below the ---- line
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> II.  There are three seats in the Council of Elders.  A player occupying a seat
> in the Council of Elders shall be known as an Elder Statesman (plural: Elder
> Statesmen). {{The three seats are vacant.}}
> 
> III.  In the case of a vacancy of a seat in the Council of Elders, the following
> procedure shall be used to fill it.
> 
>         A. The Registrar will select a nominee.  This nominee will be the active player
> who has been registered for the game the longest and has not ever held a seat in
> the Council of Elders.
> 
>         B. The Registrar will announce the name of the nominee on the Public Forum.
> 
>         C. The nominee will have 3 days to accept or decline this seat.  If the nominee
> fails to respond within 3 days, e shall be considered to have declined.
> 
>         D. In the case of more than one seat being vacant concurrently, the Registrar
> may select a number of nominees equal to the number of vacant seats.
> 
>       Upon acceptance of the nomination, the nominee will immeadiately take eir
> seat in the Council of Elders.
> 
> IV.  The Council of Elders may create a Tax (plural Taxes) by announcing that it
> is doing so in a message to the Public Forum, provided that the Tax is
> collectable as defined the the Rules
> 
> V.  The Council of Elders has the priviledge to collect any Taxes which meet the
> following criteria:
> 
>         A. Taxes may only be collected in A$.
> 
>         B. Taxes may only be charged based on a Player's manipulation of Protected
> Entities.
> 
>         C. A Tax must clearly state where the generated revenue will go.
> 
>         D. Not more than 20% of the revenue from any Tax shall go to the accounts of
> the Elder Statesmen.
> 
> VI.  All Taxes which meet the criteria in section V are collectable.
> 
> VII. This rule takes precedance over all Rules which would preclude the Council
> of Elders from creating and collecting Taxes.
> 
> ---
> 
> Lots of whitespace for you to lob your comments into.
> 
> IdiotBoy

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:06:57 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Mentor Madness + other work for other people

1) Mentor Pool:

this is not a name (for Bash, until 13 Sep, or services declined)
Niccolo Flychuck (for Guy Fawkes, until 20 Sep, or services declined)
Malenkai (for fnord, until 21 Sep, or services declined)
snowgod (for Tim, until 26 Sep, or services declined)
mr cwm (available)
Bascule (available, on vacation)

a) Would the Financier please note these end dates.  tinan should get
A$25 tomorrow.  The rest shall get paid when P 1198 passes, or at the
end of the mentorship, if it fails.

b) I encourage everyone, including the NO voters, to vote YES on P 1198.
It will make the officer in charge of mentors', and the Financier's
jobs, easier.

c) Would the Financier please make sure the following have been credited:

A$25: On 4 Sep, or earlier, Bascule ceased being a mentor for breadbox.
A$25: On 6 Sep, Niccolo Flychuck ceased being a mentor for IdiotBoy.

d) I'd like to compliment snowgod on this rule, from my experience as a
mentor.  Its a good rule.  As for the work, I really think P 1198 will
help.

e) I also recall snowgod being a mentor recently, but could not find it.
Perhaps someone should check my math here.

2) Silly Vacation Hats.

I checked the rule, and it is a duty of the Registrar to assign Mad
Hatters for the following players:

mr cwm (as of a while ago)
Geezer (as of 6 Sep)

3) Geezer went on-ice Sep 10.

Malenkai
Speaker

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:24:46 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Politeness Moon

Results of the politeness moon against ThinMan:

Yes (polite)
	breadbox
	this is not a name
	ThinMan
	fnord
	IdiotBoy* (No, e was polite)
	
No (not polite)
	Guy Fawkes
	Malenkai
	Bash* (NO)

The votes with *'s were somewhat ambigious.  In accordance with game 
custom established by a CFJ a while ago, the officer gets to interpret
stuff, unless rule or CFJ overrules the interpretation.  I have put
the exact text of the ambigious votes in (), and have rendered them
to the best of my judgement, and the rule.  Game custom indicates that
the votes need not be worded exactly as in the rule, at least they
rarely are, and we have more to worry about than such minutae.  Rendering
IdiotBoy's vote the other way will change the outcome.

In any case, ThinMan is found polite, and gets the title Jazz Jackrabbit
for 3 days.  If ya don't like it, CFJ it :)

I will point out that Guy Fawkes attempted to retract the politeness moon.

Assistant Tabulator

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:33:54 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Little Lamb

In accordance with R 1046, I am claiming the Little Lamb.

Would the Financier note the A$10 transfer to that motor inn.

Would the Registrar note that my probabilities of receiving the
Magic Potato are trebled.

Malenkai

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:43:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: robert gene shimmin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: auction bid

To frozenwaterdiety, or whatever name the Inventor is going by now--

Guy Fawkes bids 60 A$ for ownership of the Vending Machine.

Guy Fawkes
"Any philosophy that can be placed in a nutshell, should be."

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:45:42 -0400
From: "Matt Miller" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Updated RFC

Yes, I did read it before I posted, but I guess I didn't thinkit trhough as well
as I had hoped.  I have addressed the one comments so far and added a couple
loophole closers (I think).

RFC
- ---
I.  There exists an Institution known as the Council of Elderberries.

II.  There are three seats in the Council of Elderberries.  A player occupying a
seat in the Council of Elderberries shall be known as an Elderberry Statesman
(plural: Elderberry Statesmen). {{The three seats are vacant.}}

III.  In the case of a vacancy of a seat in the Council of Elderberries, the
following procedure shall be used to fill it. 

	A. The Registrar will select a nominee.  This nominee will be the active player
who

		i.   has been continuously registered for the game the longest period of time,
and
		ii.  has not ever held a seat in the Council of Elderberries, and
		iii. has not already turned down this vacancy.

	B. The Registrar will announce the name of the nominee on the Public Forum.
 
	C. The nominee will have 3 days to accept or decline this seat.  Failure to
respond within 3 days shall be considered a decline.

	D. In the case of more than one seat being vacant concurrently, the Registrar
may select a number of nominees equal to the number of vacant seats.
 
      Upon acceptance of the nomination, the nominee will immeadiately take eir
seat in the Council of Elderberries.

IV.  The Council of Elderberries may create a Tax (plural Taxes) by announcing
that it is doing so in a message to the Public Forum, provided that the Tax is
collectable as defined the the Rules

V.  The Council of Elderberries has the priviledge to collect any Taxes which
meet the following criteria: 

	A. Taxes may only be collected in A$.

	B. Taxes may only be charged based on a Player's manipulation of Protected
Entities.

	C. A Tax must clearly state where the generated revenue will go.

	D. Not more than 20% of the revenue from any Tax shall go to the accounts of
the Elder Statesmen.

	E. A Tax must not take effect before three days following its posting.

VI.  All Taxes which meet the criteria in section V are collectable.

VII. Taxes may only be repealed by the Council of Elderberries or as otherwise
defined in the Rules.  The Council of Elderberries may only repeal a Tax by
posting a message to the Public Forum announcing it is doing so.

VIII. This rule takes precedance over all Rules which would preclude the Council
of Elderberries from creating and collecting Taxes.

- ---

Sorry to spam you with essentially the same message twice, but maybe you skipped
the first one, hoping for better stuff.

IdiotBoy
- --
Matt Miller
[email-masked]

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:10:49 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Updated RFC

Matt Miller wrote:

> RFC
> ---
> I.  There exists an Institution known as the Council of Elderberries.

I would still like the name distanced from Hall of Elders.  Hall of
Elders is an honary position, so close to tax collectors.
 
>         A. The Registrar will select a nominee.  This nominee will be the > 
> active player who

If you wish to be consistent, the Speaker generally holds nominations
for political offices, and the Appointer for functional offices.  There
is no rule that says you must be consistent, but someone will probably
propose an amendment later to make it consistent later.
 
>                 i.   has been continuously registered for the game the
> longest period of time,

I still like my scheme, even though its more work.  The way to reduce
the work is to say: time in game, not counting vacations in excess of
2 weeks.

Under this scheme, the nominees would be Wayne, Robert Sevin, and
Calvin N Hobbes.  RS has been on vacation since april or may?, so
will probably decline by default.  CnH has been on vacation most of the
summer.  I see the adjenda beginning to unfold :) Then would be mr cwm,
then fon (who has been on vacation forever), then /dev/joe

>       Upon acceptance of the nomination, the nominee will immeadiately take 
> eir seat in the Council of Elderberries.

So we've already analyized the first 3 nominees.  RS and CnH will probably
decline by default, but will not do so for 3 days.  Wayne could accept
immediately, thus be on the council for three days, all by himself.
The adjenda becomes a little clearer :)
 
> IV.  The Council of Elderberries may create a Tax (plural Taxes) by
> announcing that it is doing so in a message to the Public Forum, provided
> that the Tax is collectable as defined the the Rules 
> V.  The Council of Elderberries has the priviledge to collect any Taxes
> which meet the following criteria:
> 
>         A. Taxes may only be collected in A$.
> 
>         B. Taxes may only be charged based on a Player's manipulation of
> Protected Entities.

The obvious questions become, what about a tax on A$s themselves, or the
use of the public forum?  What about an A$100 per proposal tax.
 
>         C. A Tax must clearly state where the generated revenue will go.

I'm not sure why that needs to be stated.  I think it is obvious
where it will go :)

>         D. Not more than 20% of the revenue from any Tax shall go to the
> accounts of the Elder Statesmen.
> 
>         E. A Tax must not take effect before three days following its
> posting.

No provision to veto the tax, or repeal the tax.  No limits on the
tax.

> VI.  All Taxes which meet the criteria in section V are collectable.
> 
> VII. Taxes may only be repealed by the Council of Elderberries or as
> otherwise defined in the Rules.  The Council of Elderberries may only
> repeal a Tax by posting a message to the Public Forum announcing it
> is doing so.

Didn't get to this yet.  Not a check/balance :)

> hoping for better stuff.

Yeah, I think so :).  It looks like the Underworld Party stands to clean
up on this puppy.

Malenkai

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:21:39 -0500
From: T Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Updated RFC 

>I still like my scheme, even though its more work.  The way to reduce
>the work is to say: time in game, not counting vacations in excess of
>2 weeks.
>
>Under this scheme, the nominees would be Wayne, Robert Sevin, and
>Calvin N Hobbes.  RS has been on vacation since april or may?, so
>will probably decline by default.  CnH has been on vacation most of the
>summer.  I see the adjenda beginning to unfold :) Then would be mr cwm,
>then fon (who has been on vacation forever), then /dev/joe

I'd take up my place.

>>       Upon acceptance of the nomination, the nominee will immeadiately take 
>> eir seat in the Council of Elderberries.
>
>So we've already analyized the first 3 nominees.  RS and CnH will probably
>decline by default, but will not do so for 3 days.  Wayne could accept
>immediately, thus be on the council for three days, all by himself.
>The adjenda becomes a little clearer :)

See above.

It would also be interesting, since as you will remember I was against
taxation when financier. At least in all but the most critical of cases.

Calvin "Yes I'm Here" Hobbes

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:27:37 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Updated RFC

T Joffrain wrote:

> I'd take up my place.

Cool.

> It would also be interesting, since as you will remember I was against
> taxation when financier. At least in all but the most critical of cases.

I'm still not sure of this business of "where the revenue" goes.  The
choices seem to be:

1) Treasury
2) the motor inn
3) the Underworld Party

why not say one of the 3 specifically ;)
Malenkai

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:34:38 -0500
From: T Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Updated RFC 

>> It would also be interesting, since as you will remember I was against
>> taxation when financier. At least in all but the most critical of cases.
>
>I'm still not sure of this business of "where the revenue" goes.  The
>choices seem to be:
>
>1) Treasury
>2) the motor inn
>3) the Underworld Party
>
>why not say one of the 3 specifically ;)

I would only allow the minimum tax that would keep the treasury afloat.
Anything else would be out of the question.

CnH

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