Subject: acka-voting Digest V4 #173
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acka-voting Digest	Thursday, August 19 1999	Volume: 04  Issue: 173

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4315 accepted
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:41:07 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4315

Subcommittee vote for: 297   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 297.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 643   Total vote against:-120
Acceptance Index: 463.0: proposal accepted

Votes to accept:
  Quoth the Raven       130    -30  ==> 619
  Blest Lax Monk Pal    100         ==> 819
  A German Dog           10    +20  ==> 4498
  Alfvaen               100         ==> 948
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!   90    +5   ==> 4233
  Studge                 60    +20  ==> 4607
  ThinMan                25    +20  ==> 2276
  fixing...ELK           60    +20  ==> 2308
  Rachel L Walmsley       7    +20  ==> 990
  Slakko                 61    +19  ==> 912

Zero Votes:
  IdiotBoy                0    +20  ==> 652

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 500
  else...if             -60    +20  ==> 1877

Abstainers:
  r-attila the farce   
  /dev/joe             
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  and                  
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  two-star             
  K 2                  

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4315
 
 Proposal 4315
 In a crater, on an asteroid...
 Quoth the Raven
 Due: Thu Aug 19 09:56:50 1999
 Sphere: Wombles of Wibbledon
 Status: accepted

 Ammend rule 10 (Geography) by deleting the following MOVED delimitted
 text:
 
 MOVED
 The center of Ackanomic is The Lonely Mountain, which is a location that
 owns itself. The Lonely Mountain can be found on a Kaa of land in the
 City, which it also owns. No player may visit, own, or otherwise alter
 The Lonely Mountain and its Kaa unless explicitly permitted to by the
 Rules.
 MOVED
 
 Create a new rule anumbered 10-1-10 titled "The Lonely Mountain" and
 reading as follows (as delimited by TOHERE):
 
 TOHERE
 The Lonely Mountain is an unownable entity and a common location,
 occupying a single Kaa of land. It stands majestically in the centre of
 Ackanomic City, its summit obscured by cloud. It is said that not even
 the ancients were able to clibm to the top of the mountain, and any
 attempt to do so will automatically fail, for it is higher even than the
 tallest towers on Vulcan Headquarters. The Lonely Mountain is said to be
 rich in mineral ores.
 TOHERE
 
 Create a new rule numbered 10-1-10-1 called "Mining the Lonely Mountain"
 and reading as delimited by BANG!
 
 BANG!
 Any player who is at the Lonely Mountain and who owns a shovel, a pick
 axe and at least one stick of dynamite may  mine the Lonely Mountai of
 its mineral ores. No player may do this more than once per calendar
 week. When a player does this eir stick of dynamite is destroyed (or one
 of them if e owns more than one) and e receives between one and five
 (determined at random) nosesacks of a random mineral ore.
 BANG!
 
 Create a new rule numbered 10-1-11 titled "Ye Olde Mining Shop" and
 reading as delimited by BUTTON
 
 BUTTON
 Ye Olde Mining Shop is a small building, unownable entity, and common
 location. It sells mining equipment. Its prices (per item) are as
 follows:
 
 Pick axes:		A$20
 Shovels:		A$20
 Sticks of dynamite:	A$45
 Hard hats:		A$5
 Blue canaries:		A$10
 
 Pick axes, shovels, sticks of dynamite, hard hats and blue canaries are
 all tradeable entities. Hard hats are also hats.
 
 Any player in Ye Olde Mining Shop may purchase any of these goods by
 paying the specified price (which gos to the treasury as Ye Olde Mining
 Shop is government owned). E will then receive the entities e paid for,
 whichwill be created in eir posession.
 BUTTON
 
 Create a new rule as a child of rule 14 (Chemicals) titled "Mineral
 Ores" and reading as delimited by PURPLE
 
 PURPLE
 Mineral Ores are compounds. Whilst not very useful on their own it is
 thought that with the correct methods very useful and/or valuable
 elements could be extracted from them. The following [unimaginatively
 named] Mineral Ores are currently known:
 
 Brown Ore
 Pink Ore
 Clear Ore
 Silver Ore
 Glowing Ore
 PURPLE

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4332
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:41:18 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4332
Fictionary Tweak
Emperor Ai! Pedrito!
Due: Thu Aug 26 14:41:16 1999
Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance

[Well, there seemed to be little sentiment against it.]

Amend Rule 12-3-3 (Fictionary) by appending the following to step 2:
"
A Bluffer may change eir submitted definition at any time before the
definitions are posted in step 3.
"

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4317 accepted
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:43:02 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4317

Subcommittee vote for: 200   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 200.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 701   Total vote against:-120
Acceptance Index: 521.0: proposal accepted

*** This was an accepted Harfy proposal ***
*** K 2 is now Harfmeister ***

Votes to accept:
  Quoth the Raven        80    +10  ==> 629
  Blest Lax Monk Pal     60    +20  ==> 839
  A German Dog          100         ==> 4498
  Alfvaen                60    +20  ==> 968
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!   61    +19  ==> 4252
  Studge                 60    +20  ==> 4627
  ThinMan                60    +20  ==> 2296
  fixing...ELK           60    +20  ==> 2328
  Rachel L Walmsley      60    +20  ==> 1010
  Slakko                100         ==> 912

Zero Votes:
  IdiotBoy                0    +20  ==> 672

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 520
  else...if             -60    +20  ==> 1897

Abstainers:
  r-attila the farce   
  /dev/joe             
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  and                  
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  two-star             
  K 2                  

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4317
 
 Proposal 4317
 Proposal title... um Thingy
 K 2
 Due: Thu Aug 19 16:33:01 1999
 Sphere: Hypnotist of Ladies
 Status: accepted
 Declared Harfy: at Tue Aug 17 16:24:57 1999 by Rachel L Walmsley

 Amend Rule 7-2-5 (Titled Gentry) by:
 
 I. deleting the final sentence which reads "When a title that was
 rule-defined is repealed, all players lose that title." [because it
 stomps on the whole point of the rule - "Thingies (entities and
 non-entities) that have been defined in the rules at some time as
 Titles, and have not have that designation removed, remain Titles."].
 
 II. Replace the phrase "and have not have that" with "and have not had
 that".
 
 {{Studge receives the Unique Title "Punching Bag". All effects generated
 under the auspices of the final paragraph of Rule 1 are undone in
 reverse chronological order. The final paragraph of rule 1 is stricken
 from the rule set.}}

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4318 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:43:11 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4318

Subcommittee vote for: 20   against:-60
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: -70.0
Rejected in subcommittee
Total vote for: 389   Total vote against:-181
Acceptance Index: 117.5: proposal rejected

** This proposal was boring! ** 
8 sub-60 votes out of 9 non-60 votes total.

Votes to accept:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal     23    +20  ==> 859
  else...if             100         ==> 1897
  Studge                 60    +20  ==> 4647
  ThinMan                30    +20  ==> 2316
  IdiotBoy               46    +20  ==> 692
  fixing...ELK           60    +20  ==> 2348
  A German Dog           20    +20  ==> 4518
  Rachel L Walmsley      50    +20  ==> 1030

Zero Votes:
  Alfvaen                 0    +20  ==> 988

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 540
  Quoth the Raven        -2    +20  ==> 649
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!  -59    +20  ==> 4272
  Slakko                -60    +20  ==> 932

Abstainers:
  r-attila the farce   
  /dev/joe             
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  and                  
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  two-star             
  K 2                  

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4318
 
 Proposal 4318
 Tweak
 else...if
 Due: Thu Aug 19 18:18:33 1999
 Sphere: Hypnotist of Ladies
 Status: rejected
 
 	Renumber rule 9 to rule 3-6.
 	{{[For no apparent reason, most (but not all) of the crime rules
 are totally separated from the other CFJ rules.  This fixes that.]}}

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4319 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:43:22 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4319

Subcommittee vote for: 81   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 81.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 494   Total vote against:-330
Acceptance Index: -1.0: proposal rejected

** This proposal was boring! ** 
6 sub-60 votes out of 10 non-60 votes total.

Votes to accept:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal     60    +20  ==> 879
  else...if             100         ==> 1897
  rufus                  58    +20  ==> 1040
  Studge                 60    +20  ==> 4667
  ThinMan                30    +20  ==> 2336
  IdiotBoy               45    +20  ==> 712
  fixing...ELK           60    +20  ==> 2368
  A German Dog           20    +20  ==> 4538
  Slakko                 61    +19  ==> 951

Zero Votes:
  Alfvaen                 0    +20  ==> 1008
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!    0    +20  ==> 4292

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 560
  Quoth the Raven       -90    +5   ==> 654
  Rachel L Walmsley    -180    -80  ==> 950

Abstainers:
  r-attila the farce   
  /dev/joe             
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  and                  
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  two-star             
  K 2                  

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4319
 
 Proposal 4319
 It's the little things
 else...if
 Due: Thu Aug 19 18:18:44 1999
 Sphere: Hypnotist of Ladies
 Status: rejected
 Declared Harfy: at Sat Aug 14 04:31:52 1999 by Rachel L Walmsley
 
 	{{[This rule gets rid of the payments to players (not referees) in
 subgames.  The payments are all small, so they're not an incentive to play
 (people play subgames for fun), and they're needless work for the
 Financier.  It also changes the rules so that all referees get either A$10
 or nothing.]}}
 	Amend the last sentence of rule 12-1, section IIIe to read "The
 referees may receive no componsation other than an optional A$10 reward if
 the game so specifies."
 	Remove the second paragraph or part 8 of rule 12-3-4.
 	Remove the last sentence of rule 12-3-5.
 	In rule 12-3-11, remove the paragraph beginning "If, in starting
 the game, the Barkeep announced", the sentence reading "The next time that
 Bard rejoins that game, e need not pay ante to do so", and the second to
 last sentence.
 	In rule 12-3-13 replace "A$5" with "A$10"

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4320 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:43:33 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4320

Subcommittee vote for: 200   against:-23
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 165.5
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 204   Total vote against:-1107
Acceptance Index: -1456.5: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  else...if             100         ==> 1897
  IdiotBoy              100         ==> 712
  Rachel L Walmsley       4    +20  ==> 970

Zero Votes:
  fixing...ELK            0    +20  ==> 2388

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 580
  Quoth the Raven      -150    -50  ==> 604
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   -140    -40  ==> 839
  Vynd                 -100         ==> 215
  rufus                 -23    +20  ==> 1060
  Alfvaen               -93    +3   ==> 1011
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito! -101    -1   ==> 4291
  Studge               -100         ==> 4667
  ThinMan               -60    +20  ==> 2356
  A German Dog         -180    -80  ==> 4458
  Slakko               -100         ==> 951

Abstainers:
  r-attila the farce   
  /dev/joe             
  404 Not Found        
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  and                  
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  two-star             
  K 2                  

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4320
 
 Proposal 4320
 Because they aren't doing anything
 else...if
 Due: Thu Aug 19 18:26:20 1999
 Sphere: Tocpe
 Status: rejected
 
 	Repeal rule 10 and all of its children except for 10-1-4 and 10-1-5

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4321 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:42:04 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4321

Subcommittee vote for: 240   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 240.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 619   Total vote against:-515
Acceptance Index: -153.5: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  else...if             100         ==> 1897
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!   58    +20  ==> 4311
  Studge                 60    +20  ==> 4687
  IdiotBoy              140    -40  ==> 672
  A German Dog          200    -100 ==> 4358
  Slakko                 61    +19  ==> 970

Zero Votes:
  Quoth the Raven         0    +20  ==> 624
  fixing...ELK            0    +20  ==> 2408

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 600
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   -140    -40  ==> 799
  Alfvaen               -75    +12  ==> 1023
  ThinMan               -60    +20  ==> 2376
  Rachel L Walmsley    -180    -80  ==> 890

Abstainers:
  r-attila the farce   
  /dev/joe             
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  and                  
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  two-star             
  K 2                  

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4321
 
 Proposal 4321
 Voting Proxies
 A German Dog
 Due: Thu Aug 19 21:57:49 1999
 Sphere: Tocpe
 Status: rejected
 
 [
  I am deliberately choosing a rule number in the 99's so that the
  rule harfer may place it where e feels is appropriate
 ]
 {{
    A German Dog loses 4 points.
    else...if gains 2 points.
    K 2 gains 2 points.
    [ Both these fine folk helped clarify and tighten this proposal ]
 }}
 
 Create a new rule 99-1 titled 'Proxy Voting' with the following
 text as delimited by POWER_OF_ATTORNEY
 POWER_OF_ATTORNEY
 The following are defined as Voting Issues.
 a.  Proposals
 b.  Hearings
 c.  Elections for Office
 d.  Support for the Nomination of a Player into the Hall of Elders
 POWER_OF_ATTORNEY
 
 Create a new rule 99-1-1 titled 'Proxies' as delimited
 by the following NOT_ME_REALLY delimited text
 NOT_ME_REALLY
 Proxies are Unownable Entities.
 
 Proxies have three required characteristics; Issue, Proxy and Value.
 The characteristics are defined as follows:
    Creator - The Right of Voting Proxy used to create this Proxy.
    Issue   - The Voting Issue this Proxy is being created in reference to.
    Value   - The vote to be cast on the Voting Issue.
 
 When a Proxy is created, the three required characteristics must be
 unambiguously specified.  If the Issue is a Support of the Nomination of a
 Player into the Hall of Elders, the Value is automatically set to 'Me Too'.
 The Value characteristic must be a value which the Master of the Right of
 Voting Proxy being used to create this Proxy could specify assuming they
 were able to vote on the Voting Issue.  If the Master of the Right of Voting
 Proxy is on Vacation, then for the purposes of this paragraph they are
 treated as if they were not on Vacation.  This paragraph takes precedence
 over any rules with which it conflicts.
 
 If a current Proxy exists with the same values for Creator and Issue then
 the current Proxy with those values is destroyed before the new Proxy is
 created.
 
 When the results of a Voting Issue are tallied, Proxys are counted as if the
 Master of the Right of Voting Proxy specified in the Creator attribute
 Player specified in the Proxee Characteristic had voted or supported the
 nomination only for the purposes of determining the result of the Voting
 Issue.   Any benefits or penalties incurred due to the Proxy are applied to
 the Player named in the Creator Characteristic of the Proxy.  (For instance
 any Mannna used to vote comes from the Creator, not the Proxee).  This
 paragraph takes precedence over any rules which would prevent the vote cast
 by the Proxy from being counted.
 
 After the results of a Voting Issue are tallied, all Proxys with that
 Issue are destroyed.
 
 If the Player who is the Master of the Right of Voting Proxy used to create a
 given Proxy votes on or supports the nomination for a given Voting Issue, any
 Proxys created with that Right of Voting Proxy on that Issue are destroyed.
 NOT_ME_REALLY
 
 Create a new rule numbered 99-1-2 titled 'Right of Voting Proxy' with the
 following text as delimited by VOTING_FREEDOM
 
 VOTING_FREEDOM
 Rights of Voting Proxy are Giftable, Operable entities.
 
 Each Right of Voting Proxy has an Master characteristic associated with it.
 The Player whose Ackanomic Name matches the Master characteristic of a
 given Right of Voting Proxy is the Master of that Right of Voting Proxy.
 
 If there ever exists a Player who is not the Master of a Right of Voting
 Proxy, a Right of Voting Proxy is created in their possession with the Master 
 characteristic set to that Player's Ackanomic Name.
 
 If there ever exists a Right of Voting Proxy for which the Master is not a
 Player, that Right of Voting Proxy is immediately destroyed as are any
 Proxies created with that Right of Voting Proxy.
 
 If the Master of a Right of Voting Proxy has their Ackanomic Name changed
 (either voluntarily or involuntarily), then the Right of Voting Proxy for
 which they are the Master has the Master characteristic immediately changed
 to their new name.
 
 If the Master of a Right of Voting Proxy is On Ice then the following occurs
 immediately:
 a) The Right of Voting Proxy which is associated with them is returned
    to their possession.
 b) All Proxys created via that Right of Voting Proxy are destroyed.
 
 {{
   All players are given a Right of Voting Proxy with the Master
   characteristic set to their name.  [Yes, this would happen automatically,
   but...]
 }}
 VOTING_FREEDOM
 
 Create a new rule numbered 99-1-2-1 named 'Returning Proxies' with the
 following BOOMERANG delimited text
 BOOMERANG
 There is an Operation on a Right of Voting Proxy called Returning.
 When this Operation is performed, the Right of Voting Proxy being Operated
 upon is placed in the possession of its Master.
 
 The Master of a Right of Voting Proxy may as a public action command that
 that Right of Voting Proxy be returned.   If the Master of a Right of Voting
 Proxy does command this, the possessor of the Right of Voting Proxy will
 immediatly perform a Return upon that Right of Voting Proxy.
 
 This rule takes precedence over any rule with which it conflicts.
 BOOMERANG
 
 Create a new rule numbered 99-1-2-2 named 'Proxy Creation' with the following
 text delimited by SOUND_MIND_AND_BODY
 SOUND_MIND_AND_BODY
 There is an Operation on a Right of Voting Proxy called Creating a Proxy.
 This Operation may be performed by the current possessor of a Right of Proxy.
 
 When this Operation is performed, the appropriate officer or forum must be
 notified that this Operation is being performed and of the required
 information to Create the Proxy.
 
 The Creation of a Proxy fails if the Master of the Right of Voting Proxy
 being Operated upon has already submitted a vote on or supported the
 nomination for that Voting Issue.
 
 The Creation of a Proxy fails if the Master of the Right of Voting Proxy
 would not be allowed to vote or support the nomination for some reason
 other then being on Vacation.
 
 If the Operation succeeds, the Proxy is created as specified.
 SOUND_MIND_AND_BODY

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