Subject: acka-voting Digest V4 #156
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acka-voting Digest	Sunday, August 01 1999	Volume: 04  Issue: 156

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4271 accepted
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 12:36:02 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4271

Subcommittee vote for: 220   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 220.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 540   Total vote against:-238
Acceptance Index: 183.0: proposal accepted

** This proposal was boring! ** 
5 sub-60 votes out of 8 non-60 votes total.

Votes to accept:
  /dev/joe               60    +20  ==> 3109
  Alfvaen               100         ==> 551
  and                    59    +20  ==> 920
  ThinMan                60    +20  ==> 1696
  King Felix            100         ==> 1968
  A German Dog            1    +20  ==> 3441
  rice                  100         ==> 730
  K 2                    60    +20  ==> 536

Zero Votes:
  IdiotBoy                0    +20  ==> 567

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 260
  else...if             -60    +20  ==> 1437
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!  -59    +20  ==> 547
  Studge                -59    +20  ==> 1413

Abstainers:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4271
 
 Proposal 4271
 The Most Rejected Proposal
 K 2
 Due: Sun Aug  1 09:41:17 1999
 Sphere: All Canadians're Kind & Amiable
 Status: accepted

  This is a Grandiose Proposal.
  
  A. Make the following modifications to the rules:
  
  1. Amend Rule 1-1 (Resolving Conflicts) by deleting the final paragraph
  which reads:
  "
  If two rules have different base numbers, use the base number to
  determine which is lowest. Among rules with the same base number, use
  the sub rule numbers to determine which rule has the lowest number,
  treating a rule without a sub rule number as if the sub rule number was
  zero.
  "
  [Compare the effect of that paragraph with the one in Rule 2-3:
  "An H number is larger than another H number if the first (from left to
  right) integer which differs between the two is larger. When a rule Z1
  is moved to become rule Z2, all its children Z1-X are moved to Z2-X"]
  
  2. Amend Rule 1-2-2 (Spelling Bee) by:
  i) replacing the text "[sic]" with "(sic)" in section 5.b.e.
  [no semantic meaning]
  ii) deleting the sentence "This clause takes precedence over any rule
  which would require such notation." in section 7.
  [The rules don't require any such notation - Rule 6-4-4 states rules
  should be annotated with "customary ancillary information", which
  customarily does not include the spelling bee.]
  
  3.a {{All Dull Spellbooks are transformed into Shimmering Spellbooks.}}
  3.b Amend Rule 1-2-2-1 (Spellbooks) to read in full:
  "
  Shimmering Spellbooks exist. They are non-tradeable entities. A player
  may not own more than one Shimmering Spellbook, excess books are
  destroyed. Players may destroy any Shimmering Spellbooks in their
  possession as a public action.
  
  Any player with a Shimmering Spellbook is permitted to initiate a
 flight
  of the Spelling Bee, as in Rule 1-2-2.
  
  Some Offices may include possession of Shimmering Spellbooks among
 their
  privileges; in this case, if ever the holder of such an Office does not
  possess a Shimmering Spellbook, one is created in their possession.
  "
  
  4. Replace section e under the heading "The Privileges are:" of Rule
  6-4-4 (Rule-Harfer) with:
  "
  e) To own a Shimmering Spellbook.
  
  f) It is a privilege of the Rule Harfer to create Shimmering Spellbooks
  for players, or to destroy them, as a public action.
  "
  
  5. Amend Rule 1-2-8-2 (Yes Virginia) by:
  a) deleting the final paragraph.
  [unnecessary and incorrect precedence clause - "This Rule takes
  precedence over all Rules numbered 200 or lower."]
  
  6. Amend Rule 1-4 (When Score Changes Take Effect) by:
  a) deleting (in section 1.d) the phrase "This section (1), defers
  precedence to R2-2.".
  [The identical precedence clause at the end of the rule takes care of
  this.]
  b) deleting (in section 4) the phrase "it is the duty of the
 Scorekeeper
  to announce such score changes."
  [As far as I can see this requires me to announce that the self
 deleting
  text in P4229 caused EA!P! to lose 8 points and the rule-harfer (IB)
 and
  the scorekeeper (K2) to gain 4 points each - funnily enough that is
  exactly what P4229 has already said....]
  
  7. Amend Rule 1-6-1 (Player Names) by:
  a) changing the phrase "neither the President" into "the President" in
  the third paragraph.
  
  8. Amend Rule 1-6-2 (Proposal and Rule Titles) by deleting the phrase
  "(This paragraph takes precedence over Rule 1-6-3.)".
  [Funny thing - it already does :-)]
  
  9. Amend Rule 1-6-3 (Entity Names) by deleting the phrase:
  "
  If the Rules do not specify any other method for determining its name,
  or if the method specified does not give a legal name, that entity
 shall
  be considered nameless until a name is legally assigned to it.
  "
  [Latter sections of the same rule have the same effect - cf the second
  last paragraph.]
  
  10. Amend Rule 2-1-1 (Fair Voting Practices) by:
  b) deleting section III which reads:
  "
  Entities which generate effects based on the way players vote on a
  proposal, do so prior to the application of that proposal.
  "
  [Section II currently reads:
  "If a proposal adds, changes, or repeals rules that generate effects or
  cause some entity to generate effects (including but not limited to
  score changes) based on the way players vote, then those rules generate
  no effects based on the way players vote on that particular proposal.
  This section of this rule takes precedence over all other rules which
  generate effects based on the way players vote on proposals."
  
  Rule 1-4 section 5 takes precedence over section III in the matter of
  scoring:
  "If a Rule describes a score change that would normally come about as
  the result of the passage of a Proposal, then that score change is
  considered to occur an infinitesimal amount of time before any of the
  rule changes or effects listed in that Proposal occur."
  
  The above change just makes the effect of 1-4 extend to things other
  than score changes.]
  
  11. Amend Rule 2-2 (Scoring When A Proposal's Voting Results are
  Reported) by making section I read in full:
  "
  All the following scoring changes are applied at the time the
 Proposal's
  tabulated voting results are officially reported, prior to any of the
  proposals effects.
  "
  [Simpler timeline: Proposal's results reported, Score changes due to
  acceptance/rejection, Effect of proposal (including further score
  changes]
  
  12. Amend Rule 2-2-2 (Literature) by deleting the phrase ", and up to
  any player to find another piece of literature that also contains the
  quote." from the final paragraph of section I.A.
  [Literature quotes need not be unique anymore - this is a hangover from
  precious amendments]
  
  13. Amend Rule 2-2-3 (Ackanomic Unity) by replacing section 1 with:
  "
  1) The day of Ackanomic Unity shall be the date the proposal was
  accepted.
  "
  [A shorter version with the same effect]
  
  14. Amend Rule 2-2-4 (Parades) by:
  a) replacing the sentence which starts with "The Guest of Honour will
  also" and ends with "a puzzle piece of eir choice as long as that piece
  is not part of a Winnable Bag." with "The Guest of Honour will receive
  an additional 10 points."
  b) replace the final paragraph [cardboard cut-outs and replicas] with
  [cardboard cut-outs alone]:
  "
  Any vacationing player will be represented by a cardboard cut-out on
  wheels, which will lower the whole tone of the occasion, so any points
  they would have received as a result of the Parade will be withheld.
  "
  
  15. Amend Rule 2-2-6 (Let there be Harf!) by replacing the paragraph
  starting with (At most one player is "Funky and Stylish" at any one
  time;) with the following HLOEL delimited text.
  HLOEL
  "Funky and Stylish" is a unique title. When a player is designated
  "Funky and Stylish", they gain 5 points. Only one player may be
  designated "Funky and Stylish" per calendar week.
  HLOEL
  
  16. Replace the list of punishments (a-i) in Rule 3-6 (Criminal
 Justice)
  with:
  "
  a) a PUBLIC APOLOGY of 1 or more lines by Player X.
  b) the TRANSFERENCE of 0 or more entities or characteristics associated
  with Player X to either the Treasury or the initiator of the CFCJ.
  c) a SENTENCE in the Gaol of 1 or more days for Player X.
  d) the REMOVAL of Player X from one or more Institutions to which e
  currently belongs.
  e) The IMPEACHMENT of Player X from a single specific office which e
  currently holds.
  f) the EXPULSION of Player X from the game.
   "
  
  17. Amend Rule 4 (Players and Player States) by deleting sub-section b
  from section V.
  [Acting officer redundancy]
  
  18. Amend Rule 4-1-1 (Mentors) by replacing the phrase:
  "
  Any Active player may place emself in the Mentor pool or remove emself
  therefrom by notifying the Registrar. This notification may be done
  privately.
  "
  with:
  "
  Any Active player may place emself in the Mentor pool or remove emself
  therefrom by notifying the Registrar.
  "
  [notification of the registrar implies the possibility of private
  correspondence]
  
  19. Amend Rule 4 (Far Out) by replacing the phrase:
  "
  If the player does not respond within 3 days, their location is changed
  to Fairy Land.
  "
  with:
  "
  If the player fails to perform a game action within 3 days, their
  location is changed to Fairy Land.
  "
  [respond - game action same thing :-)]
  
  20. Amend Rule 4-4-5-2 (Dishonourable Acts) by:
  a) removing the phrase "1 Honour: going to Gaol" from the list of
  Uniquely Dishonourable Acts and placing it in the list of Repeatably
  Dishonourable Acts.
  [Well it is]
  b) deleting the phrase which starts "1 honour: Bribing players"
  [Alas Bribery and Tammany are no longer with us]
  
  21. Amend Rule 4-5 (A Degree Proves You're Educated) by:
  a) replacing "A player may gain the title student" with "A player, who
  is not already a student, may gain the title student" in the first
  paragraph of section 1.
  [multiple studentships prohibited]
  b) delete the phrase "pretend to" in the second paragraph of section 1.
  [Pretend!!! PRETEND!!!?]
  
  22 Amend Rule 6 (Offices, Commonalities) by deleting the phrase "This
  sub-section takes precedence over section (iv) and R6-4." from section
  viii.a.
  [Incorrect and it has appropriate precedence anyway - rule 6 is lower
  than rule **6-1**]
  
  23 Amend Rule 6-1 (Acting Officers) by deleting "Evil Math Troll," and
  "General Contractor," from section III.
  [repealed offices]
  
  24. Amend Rule 6-4-13 (Map-Harfer) by:
  a) deleting section 1 which reads:
  "
  1) To appoint Assistant Map-Harfers to assist his in the execution of
  duties b) and c) above.
  "
  [covered by other rules ie 6-2-1]
  b) renumbering section 2 to section 1.
  
  25. Amend Rule 6-5-1 (President) by deleting its final sentence which
  reads:
  "
  This section has precedence over rule 6.
  "
  [Rule 6-1 defers to rule 6-5-1 so there is no need for this - why it
  wants to take precedence over rule 6 is a bit of a mystery ;-)]
  
  26. Amend Rule 7-14 (Definition of Otzma Cards) by replacing "R516"
 with
  "the auction".
  [Relative references rock :-)]
  
  27. Append "Frinks are entities." to the end of Rule 7-15 (Royal
 Frinks)
  
  [This should've been done ages ago]
  
  28. Amend Rule 7-16 (Ackanomic Sound System) by:
  a) deleting the phrase "This action fails if the entity does not own
  sufficient A$, or has no Tokens." from final paragraph of section II.
  [This is covered by rule 7-1 - "Entities may not manipulate ownable
  entities which they do not own except as explicitly permitted by the
  rules."]
  b) deleting the phrase "The act of placing a Token into the
 banna-shaped
  slot of the ASS' control panel destroys that Token." from section IV.
  [Covered by section II]
  c) replace sub-section of section IV which currently reads:
  "
  e) Cost: The amount of A$ which must be placed in the banna-shaped slot
  in the ASS' control panel to play this Song. If the Cost is not
  specified, it defaults to Infinite; i.e., the Song cannot be purchased
  with A$ as described above.
  "
  with:
  "
  e) Cost: If the Cost is not specified the Song can not be purchased
 with
  A$.
  "
  
  29. Amend Rule 7-17 (Chemicals) by:
  a) deleting the paragraph that starts with "Brain Damage (14)".
  b) deleting the phrase "Eir Fire Characteristic increases by 1, and
  "from the paragraph commencing with "Spontaneous Combustion (1)" and
  capitalise the first letter of its final sentence.
  [Basic player characteristics and elemental characteristics have all
  been repealed]
  
  30. Delete the final sentence in Rule 7-17-1 (Ancientium) which reads
  "Ingestion of a nose-sack of Ancientium causes the Ingestor's Wisdom
  Characteristic to increase by 1."
  
  31. Amend Rule 8-4 (Winning by Points) by replacing "the Magic Number"
  with "their Magic Number" in the final paragraph.
  
  32. Amend Rule 9-1 (Gaol) by:
  a) replacing the second paragraph with:
  "
  The Gaol has an Evidence Room but its kinda cramped so we don't put
  anything in there anymore
  "
  b) removing ", or to be Mad Sculptors" from the fourth paragraph.
  
  33. Amend Rule 10-1-7 (Ackanomic Institute of Genetic Replication) by
  replacing the paragraph that starts with "Wings:" with the following:
  "
  Wings: Cost -- 100 A$. Winged players and only winged players, can fly.
  Since extra heads ruin a player's aerodynamics, a player may not have
  both wings and an extra head.
  "
  [There was a CFJ about this - now its official :-)]
  
  34. Amend Rule 10-3 (Buildings) by:
  a) in section I, deleting sub-sections iv and v.
  b) in section II, replacing "an Attached building" in section iii with
  "a building".
  c) in section III, delete sub-section iii
  [Floating buildings are old harf]
  
  35. Amend Rule 10-6 (We don't need Gravity) by:
  a) deleting the phrase ", in the case of a building it shall become
  Tethered"
  b) deleting the final paragraph.
  [Old Harf - but I don't have the courage :-)]
  
  B. If Proposal 4246 fails, alter the rules in the following ways:
  
  1. Append the following to the end of the list in the "Effect:" section
  of Rule 7-16-4 (ASS Song: Ode to Joy) as new items:
  "
  iv) Players may not perform any operation on points.
  v) The Happy Number takes a randomly determined positive number less
  than The Magic Number each time this song starts to play. The DJ is
  responisble for perfoming this determination.
  vi) The Sad Number is the The Magic Number minus The Happy Number.
  "
  [Only while the song is playing]

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4272 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 12:36:14 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4272

Subcommittee vote for: 95   against:-72
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: -13.0
Rejected in subcommittee
Total vote for: 306   Total vote against:-470
Acceptance Index: -399.0: proposal rejected

** This proposal was boring! ** 
4 sub-60 votes out of 7 non-60 votes total.

Votes to accept:
  /dev/joe               60    +20  ==> 3129
  Alfvaen                35    +20  ==> 571
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!   61    +19  ==> 566
  and                    30    +20  ==> 940
  ThinMan                60    +20  ==> 1716
  King Felix             60    +20  ==> 1988

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 280
  else...if             -60    +20  ==> 1457
  Studge                -59    +20  ==> 1433
  IdiotBoy              -59    +20  ==> 587
  A German Dog         -100         ==> 3441
  rice                  -60    +20  ==> 750
  K 2                   -72    +14  ==> 550

Abstainers:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4272
 
 Proposal 4272
 cheese tweak
 Emperor Ai! Pedrito!
 Due: Sun Aug  1 11:27:30 1999
 Sphere: All Canadians're Kind & Amiable
 Status: rejected

 in rule 8-7 (Le Grand Fromage):
 
 in the gouda (subgames) paragraph, replace 
 
 'or wins three games from the games and contest'
 
        with 
 
 'or wins three different games (not multiple instances of the same game)
 from the games and contest rule suite'
 
 [BOING!]

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4273 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 18:48:41 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4273

Subcommittee vote for: 15   against:-85
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: -112.5
Rejected in subcommittee
Total vote for: 335   Total vote against:-454
Acceptance Index: -346.0: proposal rejected

** This proposal was boring! ** 
6 sub-60 votes out of 10 non-60 votes total.

Votes to accept:
  else...if             100         ==> 1457
  Alfvaen                15    +20  ==> 591
  IdiotBoy              140    -40  ==> 547
  A German Dog           80    +10  ==> 3451

Votes to reject:
  /dev/joe               -1    +20  ==> 3149
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 300
  Vynd                 -100         ==> 115
  ThinMan               -25    +20  ==> 1736
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!  -59    +20  ==> 586
  Studge                -59    +20  ==> 1453
  and                   -30    +20  ==> 960
  rice                  -60    +20  ==> 770
  K 2                   -60    +20  ==> 570

Abstainers:
  404 Not Found        
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   
  King Felix           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4273
 
 Proposal 4273
 Tax for stupid people
 else...if
 Due: Sun Aug  1 18:27:10 1999
 Sphere: All Canadians're Kind & Amiable
 Status: rejected
 Declared Harfy: by emperor ai! pedrito! at mon, 26 jul 1999 19:16:25 -0400 (edt)
 
 	Create a new rule 2-6, "The Betting Pool", with the following
 BORINGDELIMITER delimited text
 BORINGDELIMITER
 	Each player who is not in debt may bet between 0 and 100 mannna
 either for or against each proposal by notifying the Tabulator.  When a
 proposal is accepted, each player who bet for it is a winner, and each who
 bet against it is a loser; when a proposal is rejected, each player who bet
 against it is a winner, and each who be for it is a loser.  Whenever a
 proposal is either accepted or rejected, the losers all pay the amount of
 mannna they bet into the Pot.  Each winner receives (amount that player
 bet)/(total of all winning bets)*(amount in pot) mannna, rounded down.  All
 excess mannna is left in the Pot.
 	The Pot is a named entity which may only own mannna.  The Tabulator
 may open or close the betting halls as a public action.  When the betting
 halls are closed the preceding paragraph has no effect; this sentence takes
 precedence over the preceding paragraph.
 {{The betting halls are closed}}
 BORINGDELIMITER

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4274 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 18:48:50 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4274

Subcommittee vote for: 60   against:-72
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: -48.0
Rejected in subcommittee
Total vote for: 630   Total vote against:-190
Acceptance Index: 345.0: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  /dev/joe               60    +20  ==> 3169
  Calvin N Hobbes       160    -60  ==> 240
  else...if             100         ==> 1457
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!  140    -40  ==> 546
  and                    30    +20  ==> 980
  ThinMan                60    +20  ==> 1756
  A German Dog           80    +10  ==> 3461

Zero Votes:
  Alfvaen                 0    +20  ==> 611
  rice                    0    +20  ==> 790

Votes to reject:
  Studge                -59    +20  ==> 1473
  IdiotBoy              -59    +20  ==> 567
  K 2                   -72    +14  ==> 584

Abstainers:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  King Felix           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4274
 
 Proposal 4274
 Tweak and Frob
 else...if
 Due: Sun Aug  1 18:42:47 1999
 Sphere: All Canadians're Kind & Amiable
 Status: rejected
 
 	{{[There are too many proposals which do nothing more than tweak a
 line or two as a minor fix.  These are a waste of time and points.  CSRs
 were supposed to do these, but that's not working.]}}
 	Rename rule 6-4-11-1 to "Mutations" and give it the following FROB
 delimited text
 FROB
 	Any player may attempt a Mutations as a public action.  A Mutations
 is any change to the rules, the Ackanomic Lexicon, the Literature List, or
 the Postal Code.  If, during the next three days, any two players object to
 it as a public action, it is rejected, otherwise it is accepted and the
 rule change is made.  If the Mutations changes the rules than the objection
 of the Rule-Harfer alone is enough to reject it.  Similar powers are
 posessed by the Spelling Exchequer if the Tweak changes the Literature
 List, the Postmaster for the Postal Code, and the Poet Laureate for the
 Literature List.
 FROB
 
 	In rule 1-2-1, replace the first two sentences of the last
 paragraph with "The Ackanomic Lexicon may only be modified by Proposals or
 CSRs."
 	Remove the last sentence of rule 2-2-2.
 	Remove section d of rule 6-4-4 and reletter accordingly.
 	In rules 6-4-12 and 10-5, remove all sentences containing the
 acronym "CSR".

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4285
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 18:59:07 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4285
Tweak and Frob
else...if
Due: Sun Aug  8 18:59:06 1999
Sphere: Hypnotist of Ladies

	{{[There are too many proposals which do nothing more than tweak a
line or two as a minor fix.  These are a waste of time and points.  CSRs
were supposed to do these, but that's not working.]}}
	Rename rule 6-4-11-1 to "Mutations" and give it the following FROB
delimited text
FROB
	Any player may attempt a Mutations as a public action.  A Mutations
is any change to the rules, the Ackanomic Lexicon, the Literature List, or
the Postal Code.  If, during the next three days, any two players object to
it as a public action, it is rejected, otherwise it is accepted and the
rule change is made.  If the Mutations changes the rules than the objection
of the Rule-Harfer alone is enough to reject it.  Similar powers are
posessed by the Spelling Exchequer if the Tweak changes the Literature
List, the Postmaster for the Postal Code, and the Poet Laureate for the
Literature List.
FROB

	In rule 1-2-1, replace the first two sentences of the last
paragraph with "The Ackanomic Lexicon may only be modified by Proposals or
CSRs."
	Remove the last sentence of rule 2-2-2.
	Remove section d of rule 6-4-4 and reletter accordingly.
	In rules 6-4-12 and 10-5, remove all sentences containing the
acronym "CSR".

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4286
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 19:22:25 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4286
Letterbox 4286
else...if
Due: Sun Aug  8 19:22:24 1999
Sphere: Tocpe

	In rule 3-4-1, replace "If the pool does not contain sufficient
players, then the cortex for which the player was required shall
consist of the entire Supreme Court." with "If the pool does not
contain sufficient players than the Clerk of the Courts may appoint
enough players to the Supreme Court as Emergency Justices to judge that
CFJ only; the Clerk may not appoint the initiator, the defendant, or a
player who has declined that CFJ; e is encouraged to nominate players
with bronze torches, players with degrees in Jurisprudence or
Legislation, and players who have judged a large number of CFJs; it is
a power of the President to veto any such appointment."

	{{[Yes, it gives power to the CotC.  Our current CotC, however, is an
epitome of virtue who would never abuse this power.  Historically,
harfers have respected the privaleges of their offices and not abused
them]}}

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