Subject: acka-voting Digest V4 #155
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acka-voting Digest	Friday, July 30 1999	Volume: 04  Issue: 155

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4265 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:41:11 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4265

Subcommittee vote for: 221   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 221.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 471   Total vote against:-1049
Acceptance Index: -1102.5: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!   61    +19  ==> 501
  Studge                160    -60  ==> 1296
  King Felix            150    -50  ==> 1908
  Niccolo Flychuck      100         ==> -60

Votes to reject:
  /dev/joe             -100         ==> 3048
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 140
  Vynd                 -100         ==> 115
  else...if             -60    +20  ==> 1337
  A German Dog         -100         ==> 3381
  ThinMan              -100         ==> 1576
  Alfvaen              -150    -50  ==> 495
  Sir Galahad           -59    +20  ==> 920
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   -100         ==> 619
  IdiotBoy             -100         ==> 587
  rice                  -60    +20  ==> 690
  K 2                   -60    +20  ==> 416

Abstainers:
  404 Not Found        
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4265
 
 Proposal 4265
 A Suffusion Of Yellow
 Studge
 Due: Fri Jul 30 03:56:21 1999
 Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance
 Status: rejected

 {{Every currently existing entity other than players are henceforth to be
 considered "Rubbed with poo."}}
 
 Create a rule as a descendant of Rule 3-2 titled "Now Things Are Really
 Messy" with the following GROSS delimited text.
 
 GROSS
 Any player may point and laugh at any entity which has been "Rubbed with
 poo."  It is the Crime Of Poor Poo Discrimination to point and laugh at any
 entity which has not been "Rubbed with poo." [All entities created after
 the adoption of this rule should be refered to a ECATPE or Entities Created
 After The Poo Era.]
 
 If any player abstains on any proposal then they shall be "Rubbed with
 poo."  If a player so rubbed votes +100 (or more) on at least 15
 consecutive proposals then they are declared Nice & Clean and are no longer
 "Rubbed with poo."
 GROSS

 

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4266 accepted
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:10:26 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4266

Subcommittee vote for: 140   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 140.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 597   Total vote against:-61
Acceptance Index: 505.5: proposal accepted

** This proposal was boring! ** 
7 sub-60 votes out of 9 non-60 votes total.

Votes to accept:
  /dev/joe               60    +20  ==> 3068
  Alfvaen                 1    +20  ==> 515
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!   58    +20  ==> 521
  Studge                 59    +20  ==> 1316
  ThinMan                60    +20  ==> 1596
  IdiotBoy               59    +20  ==> 607
  A German Dog           80    +10  ==> 3391
  rice                   60    +20  ==> 710
  Niccolo Flychuck      100         ==> -60
  K 2                    60    +20  ==> 436

Zero Votes:
  Sir Galahad             0    +20  ==> 940
  King Felix              0    +20  ==> 1928

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 160
  else...if              -1    +20  ==> 1357

Abstainers:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4266
 
 Proposal 4266
 Help! Help! We're being oppressed!
 K 2
 Due: Fri Jul 30 09:06:57 1999
 Sphere: Hypnotist of Ladies
 Status: accepted

 [The rules still use terminology from when Cortex composition was
 static]
 
 Amend Rule 3-4 (Overturning Judgements) Section V to read in full:
 "
 Supreme Cortices should make every effort to return verdicts assigned to
 them within a reasonable amount of time in order to keep the game moving
 along. A Justice may decline a CFJ assigned to them (as part  of a
 cortex) as a public action.
 
 In addition, if a Cortex has been considering a particular CFJ for more
 than 30 days, that Cortex (ie both members) shall automatically decline
 that CFJ upon this fact being pointed out publicly by any active player.

 When a Justice declines a CFJ assigned to em, e shall be replaced
 according to the usual method for selecting cortex members.
 "
 
 Amend Rule 3-4-1 (Selecting a Cortex) to read in full:
 "
 Whenever the Rules call for the Supreme Court to consider a CFJ for the
 first time, the Clerk of the Courts shall assign that CFJ to a Supreme
 Cortex and select its two members, as outlines below. A Supreme Cortex
 exists only for the purpose of judging a single case, although there may
 be multiple Cortices with overlapping or identical memberships.
 
 When the CotC is required to select one or more players to be part of a
 Supreme Cortex (hereafter Cortex) e shall do so based on the following
 guidelines:
 1) All active members of the Supreme Court, other than those who are
 already part of the Cortex, are considered to be in the pool of
 candidates.
 2) Any player who has declined the case is removed from the pool.
 3) Any player who is named as a defendant is removed from the pool.
 4) Any player who made the case initially is removed from the pool.
 5) Any player who appealed the case is removed from the pool.
 
 If steps 3,4 or 5 would result in fewer than the required number of
 players, it is not performed. If the pool does not contain sufficient
 players, then the cortex for which the player was required shall consist
 of the entire Supreme Court. Otherwise, sufficient players are selected
 and removed from the pool, starting with the players who are judging the
 least number of cases. Ties are broken randomly.
 
 If the Rules direct the Supreme Court to consider a given CFJ for a
 second time, the entire Court shall consider the matter (as opposed to a
 single Cortex).
 "
 
 Amend section IV of Rule 6-5-2 (Supreme Court) to read in full:
 "
 When a Justice goes on Vacation, for each cortices of which they are a
 member, a Justice is selected to replace em in an Acting capacity. This
 paragraph takes precedence over Rules that would prevent the same player
 being an Officer and an Acting Officer in the same Office.
 "

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4267 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:10:37 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4267

Subcommittee vote for: 0   against:-101
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: -151.5
Rejected in subcommittee
Total vote for: 507   Total vote against:-221
Acceptance Index: 175.5: proposal rejected

** This proposal was boring! ** 
8 sub-60 votes out of 10 non-60 votes total.

Votes to accept:
  Alfvaen                60    +20  ==> 535
  Studge                 59    +20  ==> 1336
  Sir Galahad            59    +20  ==> 960
  ThinMan                20    +20  ==> 1616
  IdiotBoy               59    +20  ==> 627
  King Felix             30    +20  ==> 1948
  rice                   60    +20  ==> 730
  Niccolo Flychuck      100         ==> -60
  K 2                    60    +20  ==> 456

Votes to reject:
  /dev/joe               -1    +20  ==> 3088
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 180
  else...if              -1    +20  ==> 1377
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!  -59    +20  ==> 541
  A German Dog         -100         ==> 3391

Abstainers:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4267
 
 Proposal 4267
 Own Goal
 K 2
 Due: Fri Jul 30 09:14:47 1999
 Sphere: Hypnotist of Ladies
 Status: rejected

 Amend Rule 2-4 (The Blue Cross) by replacing the following text:
 "
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 20 makes a player an MBC.
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 60 makes a player an OMBC.
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 180 makes a player a CBC.
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 340 makes a player a KCBC.
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 500 makes a player a GCBC.
 "
 with:
 "
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 20 makes a player an MBC.
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 40 makes a player an OMBC.
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 80 makes a player a CBC.
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 160 makes a player a KCBC.
 Reaching or exceeding BCR 320 makes a player a GCBC.
 "
 
 {{[In the history of Ackanomic:
 Only 16 players have got a BCR of 40+.
 Only 8 players have ever got 80+.
 Only 3 players have got above 160.
 Only 1 player has breached 320.
 
 Is it just me or does anyone else think the goal posts should be moved a
 little ?]}}

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4268 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:10:47 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4268

Subcommittee vote for: 122   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 122.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 492   Total vote against:-495
Acceptance Index: -250.5: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  /dev/joe              100         ==> 3088
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!   61    +19  ==> 560
  Studge                 61    +19  ==> 1355
  Sir Galahad            30    +20  ==> 980
  ThinMan                20    +20  ==> 1636
  King Felix             60    +20  ==> 1968
  Niccolo Flychuck      100         ==> -60
  K 2                    60    +20  ==> 476

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 200
  else...if             -60    +20  ==> 1397
  A German Dog          -80    +10  ==> 3401
  Alfvaen               -95    +2   ==> 537
  IdiotBoy             -100         ==> 627
  rice                 -100         ==> 730

Abstainers:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4268
 
 Proposal 4268
 Fibble
 K 2
 Due: Fri Jul 30 09:25:01 1999
 Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance
 Status: rejected

 Repeal Rule 1-1-1 (Gravity, a reprise)
 Repeal Rule 2-5 (WITH . . . A HERRING!)
 Rule 2-2-6-2 (Silly Phrases)
 Repeal Rule 2-1-3-1 (Substantially Safer Proposals)
 
 Amend Rule 2-1-3 (Substantially Similar Proposals) to read in full:
 "
 If two proposals currently in the proposal queue are substantially
 similar then the later of the two to be submitted shall be deemed
 invalid and removed from voting consideration.
 "
 
 {{[If a proposal is substantially similar, it is invalid immediately -
 not after three weeks of appeals.]}}
 
 {{Transfer half the points K 2 gained on this proposal to Laa Laa}}

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4282
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:32:13 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4282
The Best Offense is a Good Defense
Emperor Ai! Pedrito!
Due: Fri Aug  6 12:32:09 1999
Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance

{{[OK.  So what can one nomic do to another nomic when there are no
enormous holes in the rules?  Just about the only thing is to join the
nomic and overwhelm the loyal players with votes.  I was perusing the
Agoran ruleset, and they have protection somewhat akin to this.  Seems
wise.]}}

Create rule 17-2-2, "Wartime Crisis", with the following text:

"
To protect Ackanomic from attack by hostile nomics, any player who fears an
influx of new players or an invading army can declare a Wartime Crisis on
any proposal due more than 3 days from the declaration as a public action.
This causes the proposal to become Protected.   

{{[I considered limiting it to once a week, but that would have defeated
the purpose.  If 4 or 5 hostile players join and each proposes 5
non-similar game-breakers, we want to be able to thwart all of them]}}

Also as a public action, any Justice, the Speaker, or the President, may
deny the validity of a declaration of Wartime Crisis.  If such a denial
occurs, the player who declared the Wartime Crisis loses 20 points, 100
mannna, is fined A$300, and is placed in gaol for 3 days, and the proposal
is no longer Protected. 

{{[Let's not have frivolous declarations.]}}

When a Protected proposal comes due, all newbies are considered to have
abstained.  This rule takes precedence over all descendents of rule 2 with
which it conflicts.
"

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4283
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:36:11 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4283
The Best Offense is a Good Defense
Emperor Ai! Pedrito!
Due: Fri Aug  6 12:36:11 1999
Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance

{{[OK.  So what can one nomic do to another nomic when there are no
enormous holes in the rules?  Just about the only thing is to join the
nomic and overwhelm the loyal players with votes.  I was perusing the
Agoran ruleset, and they have protection somewhat akin to this.  Seems
wise.]}}

Create rule 17-2-2, "Wartime Crisis", with the following BOING-delimited text:

BOING
To protect Ackanomic from attack by hostile nomics, any player who fears an
influx of new players or an invading army can declare a Wartime Crisis on
any proposal due more than 3 days from the declaration as a public action.
This causes the proposal to become Protected.   

{{[I considered limiting it to once a week, but that would have defeated
the purpose.  If 4 or 5 hostile players join and each proposes 5
non-similar game-breakers, we want to be able to thwart all of them]}}

Also as a public action, any Justice, the Speaker, or the President, may
deny the validity of a declaration of Wartime Crisis.  If such a denial
occurs, the player who declared the Wartime Crisis loses 20 points, 100
mannna, is fined A$300, and is placed in gaol for 3 days, and the proposal
is no longer Protected. 

{{[Let's not have frivolous declarations.]}}

When a Protected proposal comes due, all newbies are considered to have
abstained.  This rule takes precedence over all descendents of rule 2 with
which it conflicts.
BOING

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4269 accepted
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:32:55 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4269

Subcommittee vote for: 122   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 122.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 764   Total vote against:-380
Acceptance Index: 194.0: proposal accepted

Votes to accept:
  /dev/joe              100         ==> 3088
  Alfvaen                83    +8   ==> 545
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!   61    +19  ==> 579
  Studge                 61    +19  ==> 1374
  Sir Galahad            59    +20  ==> 1000
  ThinMan                60    +20  ==> 1656
  King Felix            100         ==> 1968
  IdiotBoy              140    -40  ==> 587
  Niccolo Flychuck      100         ==> -60

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 220
  else...if             -60    +20  ==> 1417
  A German Dog          -80    +10  ==> 3411
  rice                 -120    -20  ==> 710
  K 2                   -60    +20  ==> 496

Abstainers:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4269
 
 Proposal 4269
 PE cleanup
 Emperor Ai! Pedrito!
 Due: Fri Jul 30 15:29:07 1999
 Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance
 Status: accepted

 The Financier gains 6 points.
 All players cease to be Workers, Religious, and Warriors, if they have not
 already.
 All Black Marks are destroyed.
 All Jade Grapefruit are destroyed.
 All Lyncanthropic players cease to be lyncanthropic.
 All Players who have been martyred cease to have been martyred.
 All Puzzle Pieces are destroyed.
 All Repealed Otzma Cards are destroyed
 The True Prophet Ceases to be the True Prophet.
 The Indiana Jones Staff is destroyed.
 The Puzzler ceases to be the Puzzler.
 The word zopzop occurs in this proposal.
 
 Append to rule 7-2-5 the following text:
 
 When a title that was rule-defined is repealed, all players lose that title.

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4270 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:33:05 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4270

Subcommittee vote for: 201   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 201.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 726   Total vote against:-520
Acceptance Index: -54.0: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  /dev/joe               98    +1   ==> 3089
  else...if             100         ==> 1417
  A German Dog           80    +10  ==> 3421
  Alfvaen                87    +6   ==> 551
  Emperor Ai! Pedrito!  140    -40  ==> 539
  Studge                 61    +19  ==> 1393
  ThinMan                60    +20  ==> 1676
  King Felix            100         ==> 1968

Votes to reject:
  Calvin N Hobbes       -60    +20  ==> 240
  Sir Galahad          -100         ==> 1000
  IdiotBoy             -140    -40  ==> 547
  rice                  -60    +20  ==> 730
  Niccolo Flychuck     -100         ==> -60
  K 2                   -60    +20  ==> 516

Abstainers:
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   
  404 Not Found        
  Vynd                 
  rufus                
  Kane                 
  Pure Haste           
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4270
 
 Proposal 4270
 hit me baby one more time
 Emperor Ai! Pedrito!
 Due: Fri Jul 30 15:29:17 1999
 Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance
 Status: rejected
 
 [ni!]
 if this proposal was not boring [yeah right], Emperor Ai! Pedrito! loses 5
 points and else...if gains 5 points
 Convert all chess pieces into A$ equal to eir material value.
 Convert all Benefyts into 9 points each.
 Repeal 12-8 [Party Chess] and all its descendants.
 Repeal 16-3 [Backers]

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4284
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:34:36 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4284
hopefully you'll see reason eventually
Emperor Ai! Pedrito!
Due: Fri Aug  6 16:34:35 1999
Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance

[ni!]
Convert all chess pieces into A$ equal to eir material value.
Convert all Benefyts into 9 points each.
Repeal 12-8 [Party Chess] and all its descendants.
Repeal 16-3 [Backers]

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