Subject: acka-voting Digest V4 #124
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acka-voting Digest	Tuesday, June 22 1999	Volume: 04  Issue: 124

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4204 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:57:41 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4204

Subcommittee vote for: 0   against:-200
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: -300.0
Rejected in subcommittee
Total vote for: 380   Total vote against:-871
Acceptance Index: -926.5: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  Taser                 100         ==> 1
  else...if              60    +20  ==> 383
  Pure Haste            100         ==> 684
  Studge                 60    +20  ==> 619
  King Felix             60    +20  ==> 1018

Votes to reject:
  /dev/joe             -100         ==> 2284
  Laa Laa               -42    +20  ==> 252
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   -100         ==> 319
  Vynd                 -100         ==> 115
  Alfvaen               -99         ==> 222
  Ai! Pedrito!          -60    +20  ==> 209
  ThinMan              -100         ==> 656
  IdiotBoy              -60    +20  ==> 312
  Dragon Mage          -100         ==> 3071
  K 2                  -110    -10  ==> 499

Abstainers:
  Calvin N Hobbes      
  404 Not Found        
  Robin Hood           
  two-star             
  rice                 
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  rufus                

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4204
 
 Proposal 4204
 Sphere Litmus Test 1
 Studge
 Due: Tue Jun 22 04:56:59 1999
 Sphere: Hypnotist of Ladies
 Status: rejected
 
 {{[As a test of various sphere's liability to discordian disloyalty and in
 furtherance of my Inter Nomic Relations study...]}}
 
 Repeal all rules.

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4205 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:57:52 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4205

Subcommittee vote for: 42   against:-120
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: -138.0
Rejected in subcommittee
Total vote for: 322   Total vote against:-650
Acceptance Index: -653.0: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  Laa Laa                42    +20  ==> 272
  Alfvaen                60    +20  ==> 242
  Ai! Pedrito!           60    +20  ==> 229
  Studge                100         ==> 619
  IdiotBoy               60    +20  ==> 332

Zero Votes:
  Pure Haste              0    +20  ==> 704

Votes to reject:
  /dev/joe             -100         ==> 2284
  Vynd                 -100         ==> 115
  else...if             -60    +20  ==> 403
  ThinMan              -100         ==> 656
  Blest Lax Monk Pal    -60    +20  ==> 339
  King Felix            -60    +20  ==> 1038
  Dragon Mage           -60    +20  ==> 3091
  K 2                  -110    -10  ==> 489

Abstainers:
  Calvin N Hobbes      
  404 Not Found        
  Taser                
  Robin Hood           
  rufus                
  rice                 
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4205
 
 Proposal 4205
 Sphere Litmus Test 2
 Studge
 Due: Tue Jun 22 04:57:10 1999
 Sphere: Wombles of Wibbledon
 Status: rejected
 
 {{[As a test of various sphere's liability to discordian disloyalty and in
 furtherance of my Inter Nomic Relations study...]}}
 
 Studge wins the current cycle.

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4206 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:58:03 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4206

Subcommittee vote for: 1   against:-60
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: -89.0
Rejected in subcommittee
Total vote for: 61   Total vote against:-855
Acceptance Index: -1221.5: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  else...if               1    +20  ==> 423
  Studge                 60    +20  ==> 639

Zero Votes:
  King Felix              0    +20  ==> 1058

Votes to reject:
  /dev/joe             -100         ==> 2284
  Laa Laa               -42    +20  ==> 292
  Vynd                 -100         ==> 115
  ThinMan              -100         ==> 656
  Alfvaen               -33    +20  ==> 262
  Ai! Pedrito!          -60    +20  ==> 249
  Pure Haste            -50    +20  ==> 724
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   -100         ==> 339
  IdiotBoy              -60    +20  ==> 352
  Dragon Mage          -100         ==> 3091
  K 2                  -110    -10  ==> 479

Abstainers:
  Calvin N Hobbes      
  404 Not Found        
  Taser                
  Robin Hood           
  rufus                
  rice                 
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4206
 
 Proposal 4206
 Sphere Litmus Test 3
 Studge
 Due: Tue Jun 22 04:57:21 1999
 Sphere: Tocpe
 Status: rejected
 
 {{[As a test of various sphere's liability to discordian disloyalty and in
 furtherance of my Inter Nomic Relations study...]}}
 
 Amend Rule 1 by appending the VIRUS delimited text to it as a new paragraph.
 
 VIRUS
 Trade the most frequently used noun in this rule with "smarmy hippie yak"
 and copy the lowest paragraph of this rule to the highest numbered
 descendant of this rule or, (if such does not exist) to the next highest
 numbered rule that is not a descendant.  
 VIRUS

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4207 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:58:14 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4207

Subcommittee vote for: 160   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 160.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 202   Total vote against:-878
Acceptance Index: -1115.0: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  Laa Laa                42    +20  ==> 312
  Ai! Pedrito!           60    +20  ==> 269
  Studge                100         ==> 639

Zero Votes:
  Pure Haste              0    +20  ==> 744

Votes to reject:
  /dev/joe             -100         ==> 2284
  Vynd                 -100         ==> 115
  else...if             -60    +20  ==> 443
  ThinMan              -100         ==> 656
  Alfvaen               -88    +6   ==> 268
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   -100         ==> 339
  IdiotBoy              -60    +20  ==> 372
  King Felix            -60    +20  ==> 1078
  Dragon Mage          -100         ==> 3091
  K 2                  -110    -10  ==> 469

Abstainers:
  Calvin N Hobbes      
  404 Not Found        
  Taser                
  Robin Hood           
  rufus                
  rice                 
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4207
 
 Proposal 4207
 Sphere Litmus Test 4
 Studge
 Due: Tue Jun 22 04:57:31 1999
 Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance
 Status: rejected
 
 {{[As a test of various sphere's liability to discordian disloyalty and in
 furtherance of my Inter Nomic Relations study...]}}
 
 Amend Rule 1 by appending to the bottom the following EMPEROR delimited text.
 
 EMPEROR
 The player able to take the name of Studge is able to amend, repeal, and/or
 create rules, and otherwise modify the ruleset and gamestate as a public
 action.
 EMPEROR

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4208 accepted
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:13:22 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4208

Subcommittee vote for: 120   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 120.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 765   Total vote against:-35
Acceptance Index: 712.5: proposal accepted

Votes to accept:
  Laa Laa               120    -20  ==> 292
  Blest Lax Monk Pal    100         ==> 339
  else...if              60    +20  ==> 463
  Dragon Mage            80    +10  ==> 3101
  Alfvaen                60    +20  ==> 288
  Ai! Pedrito!           60    +20  ==> 289
  Studge                 60    +20  ==> 659
  ThinMan                50    +20  ==> 676
  King Felix             60    +20  ==> 1098
  IdiotBoy               40    +20  ==> 392
  K 2                    75    +12  ==> 481

Votes to reject:
  /dev/joe               -1    +20  ==> 2304
  Pure Haste            -34    +20  ==> 764

Abstainers:
  Calvin N Hobbes      
  404 Not Found        
  Taser                
  Robin Hood           
  rufus                
  Vynd                 
  rice                 
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4208
 
 Proposal 4208
 The Simplifier
 else...if
 Due: Tue Jun 22 10:54:19 1999
 Sphere: Anti-Canada Kamikaze Alliance
 Status: accepted

 	Create rule 6-4-4-1, "The Summarizer" with the following EASYAS123
 delimited text
 
 EASYAS123
 
 	There is a Functional Office known as the Summarizer.
 
 	The following BLANKETY delimited text has no effect.
 
 BLANKETY
 
 	The privilages of the Summarizer are:
 
 	1) To receive a salary of the SHF
 
 	2) To modify the Summary at any time

 	The duties of the Summarizer are:
 
 	1) To maintain the Summary and make it available to all players
 
 BLANKETY

 	The Summary is a document which contains a summarized and simplified
 version of each rule.  It has no binding effect on the game.
 
 	Since there is currently no Summary, the first Summarizer should
 enlist other players to help write the first version.  When the
 Summarizer has a completed Summary, e should submit a proposal which
 states that Ackanomic accepts that as the official Summary.  This
 proposal should also allocate A$500 from the treasury in to players who
 helped write the summary in amounts proportionate to their efforts. 
 Upon such a proposal passing, this paragraph is repealed along with the
 second sentence of this rule.  All occurences of the word "BLANKETY"
 are then removed from this rule.
 
 EASYAS123

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4209 rejected
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:13:32 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4209

Subcommittee vote for: 300   against:0
Subcommittee Acceptance Index: 300.0
Passed subcommittee
Total vote for: 421   Total vote against:-711
Acceptance Index: -645.5: proposal rejected

Votes to accept:
  else...if             200    -100 ==> 363
  King Felix             60    +20  ==> 1118
  IdiotBoy              100         ==> 392
  K 2                    61    +19  ==> 500

Votes to reject:
  /dev/joe              -60    +20  ==> 2324
  Laa Laa              -120    -20  ==> 272
  Blest Lax Monk Pal   -100         ==> 339
  Dragon Mage          -150    -50  ==> 3051
  Alfvaen                -1    +20  ==> 308
  Ai! Pedrito!          -60    +20  ==> 309
  Pure Haste           -100         ==> 764
  Studge                -60    +20  ==> 679
  ThinMan               -60    +20  ==> 696

Abstainers:
  Calvin N Hobbes      
  404 Not Found        
  Taser                
  Robin Hood           
  rufus                
  Vynd                 
  rice                 
  danke                
  Burn the Witch       
  Slakko               
  Niccolo Flychuck     
  two-star             

 Subject: Acka: Proposal 4209
 
 Proposal 4209
 Playing Around in Private
 else...if
 Due: Tue Jun 22 10:54:29 1999
 Sphere: Tocpe
 Status: rejected

 	{{[Subgames are great, but there's no reason to take up all this room
 in the rules defining every one.  This will allow subgames to be played
 exactly the same way, and also gives us the flexibility to make our own
 games without needing approval from other players.]}}
 
 	Amend rule 12-1 to read as delimted by OUTOUT
 
 OUTOUT
 
 	Players may desire to play subgames under the auspices of Ackanomic's
 laws.  Any player may declare their intent to play a subgame, and
 should either specify the rules to be used or the location those rules
 may be accessed at.  The results of these games may have no effect on
 Ackanomic except as specified within this rule.
 
 	Subgames may influence Ackanomic in the following ways:
 
 	a. Games may specify a transfer of currency from the Treasury to the
 Game (or a participant or referee therein), with an upper of limit of
 A$50 per instance of a Game or a Contest. A player may receive no more
 than A$100 from the Treasury per calendar month as a result of
 participation in the same class of Game ("class" being defined as the
 definition of a particular Game). Any excess that would have been
 received is disregarded.
 
 	b. Games may add or subtract points from the score of a participating
 player. The maximum number of points added or subtracted in any
 specific instance of a Game is 8. A player may receive no more than 20
 points per calendar month as a result of participation in the same
 class of game. Any excess that would have been received is
 disregarded.

 	A Game may only be started in accordance with its rules for doing so.
 If its rules are silent on the matter, however, (or refer to this
 section) it is started when one of its referees announces its start,
 the names of all its players and referees, and all other necessary
 particulars of the Game instance. If the Game has no referees, it
 starts when one of its players performs the above functions. Other
 rules [e.g. Duels], may define conditions under which an instance of a
 Game may start, and an alternate procedure for doing so. A Game may not
 start without the required number of players and referees.
 
 	A player may not join an instance of a Game in progress, except as
 specified in its rules. Games should be designed in such a way as to
 handle the contingency of any of its players or referees quitting it at
 any time.
 
 	Unless the Rules for a game specify otherwise, players going absent
 may name another player (of Ackanomic) to be their Substitute Player
 (in the subgame). The Substitute Player may not have been a player of
 the instance of the Game or Contest in which e is substituting at any
 time in the past, and e must agree to be a Substitute. All
 responsibilities and privileges of the departed player for the Game or
 Contest fall to the Substitute Player [if the Substitute Player wins
 the subgame, the Trophy goes to em]. If the original player returns, e
 resumes playing for emself. It is considered good form for em to give
 the Substitute Player some recompense for eir services. Participants in
 Duels may not have Substitute Players for the Duel.
 
 	If a game has a Referee, a player in a particular instance of that
 game may, if the Referee of that instance has not responded in more
 than a week, point out this fact in a public message. The Speaker shall
 then send email to the Referee in question asking em if e wishes to
 continue as Referee, or resign. If no response is received within three
 days, it shall be assumed that the Referee has resigned. When a referee
 resigns as per this section, the Speaker may appoint another interested
 player as Referee, and the game will be suspended until such an
 appointment is made.
 
 	If the game has a referee, the referee may appoint another willing
 player not already involved in the game to play in eir place for any
 time that e is absent. If the referee becomes absent without making
 such an appointment, the Speaker may appoint a referee, otherwise the
 game is suspended until the previous referee returns. This paragraph
 defers precedence to all descendants of this rule.  When a player
 leaves Ackanomic, they are deemed to have forfeited any games they
 playing in.
 
 	If the rules of a Game call for a random determination, either
 explicitly or implicitly, a referee of that game is responsible for
 making this determination unless the Game's rules specify otherwise.
 
 	Participation in Games is voluntary. No player may be forced to take
 part in a Game or a Contest, or be forced to be a referee in one.  A
 player may leave a Game they are participating in at any time. This
 section has precedence over all other rules.
 
 If a dispute arises in a Game in which there is no referee, or the
 referee is unable to resolve the dispute for some reason, it shall be
 adjudicated by the Speaker, or someone appointed by the Speaker, who
 shall render judgement as objectively as possible. If a player is
 dissatisfied with the decision, a CFJ is their only recourse. Calling a
 CFJ is bad form, however, as it is only a game. Play is suspended for
 the duration of any adjudication.
 
 	Games and Contests are meant to be fun and to enhance Acka. Using
 Games and Contests to loophole surf, scam, or otherwise abuse the
 spirit and intent of this structure is in bad taste, sneerable, and the
 Crime of Game Abuse.
 
 	Either the Referee of a particular instance of a game or any player of
 that instance may declare that instance of a game to be moribund as a
 public action. That instance of a game will be terminated without a
 winner following such a declaration unless at least 33% of its players
 publically object before the 3 days elapse.
 
 	A Referee for a game may, at most once in any calendar week regardless
 of how many games they are currently refereeing, specify a player of a
 game which they are refereeing to receive a FairPlay Award. FairPlay
 Awards are nontradeable entities. Specifying a player to recieve a
 FairPlay Award is a public action.
 
 OUTOUT
 
 	Repeal rules 12-3, 12-4, and all their children.
 
 Amend rule 12-10 to read as delimited by POLITEDUEL
 
 POLITEDUEL
 
 	Any player who feels offended by another player, or is engaged in a
 heated discussion with another player, may challenge that player to a
 duel, subject to the limitations described below.
 
    	The procedure for challenging and conducting a duel is as follows:
 the Challenging player finds another player who agrees to be their
 Second. The Challenger gives their Second the name of the player he
 wishes to Challenge, and the reason for the Challenge. The Second posts
 a public message, which announces the name of the Challenging player,
 the name of the Challenged player, the reason for the Challenge, and
 the fact that a Challenge has been made. The Challenged player has 3
 days to find another player who agrees to be their Second and have the
 Second respond to the message publically. The message must say what
 Challenge it is in response to. If there is no response to the
 Challenge within the 3 days, or the Challenged player declines the
 challenge, or the response does not conform to the rules preceding,
 then the Challenged player forfeits the Duel.
 
 	The Challenger and Challenged may either agree on a game to use to
 conduct the duel or a method to select what game.
 
 	When the Duel is over, the winner of the Duel receives 6 points in
 addition to any rewards or penalties he may have received as part of he
 Contest itself. The loser of the Duel loses 6 points in addition to any
 rewards or penalties he may have received as part of the Contest
 itself. The winner's Second receives 3 points, the loser's Second loses
 3 points.
 
 	The results of the Duel have no other direct influence over Ackanomic.
 However if either the Challenger or the Challenged have committed
 themselves in a public message to a certain action depending on the
 results of the Duel, then they must perform that action if the rules
 permit performance of the action. Should they fail to perform that
 action they are committing the Crime of Bad Faith.
 
 	When a duel is forfeited, the player who forfeited loses 6 points, and
 his opponent in the duel gains 6 points. The seconds scores are not
 changed in this case.
 
 	Conditions under which a duel may not be called, or unusual forfeit
 and cancellation conditions:
 
 	a. It is impermissible to Challenge an Untouchable Player to a Duel.
 
 	b. A Player who Challenged another Player to a Duel or a Player who
 has been Challenged by another Player to a Duel is Untouchable until
 the Duel procedures are resolved. This takes precedence over the later
 sections of this rule.
 
 	c. A Player who was a Challengee in a Duel, that is, was Challenged to
 a Duel and accepted, continues to be Untouchable until the end of the
 Calendar month in which the duel ended.
 
 	d. Players unable to play subgames are Untouchable.
 
 	e. If a player who is currently engaged in Duel procedures becomes
 unable to play subgames, then eir Second shall take eir place in the
 subgame, unless eir Second is already playing or refereeing the game,
 in which case the player forfeits the Duel.
 
 	f. A Player running for Office may not Challenge another Player
 running for the same Office to a duel.
 
 	g. A player who has declined a Duel, or failed to respond to a
 Challenge, is Untouchable until 3 days after the date he has declined,
 or until 3 days after he is considered to have forfeited the duel.
 
 	h. If both the Challenger and the Challenged become unable to play
 subgames simultaneously, then the Duel is cancelled.
 
 	i. No player may make more than 3 challenges per calendar month. No
 more than 6 duels may be called per calendar month.
 
 	j. If either the Challenger or the Challenged player leaves the game
 before the original Challenge is answered, the Duel is cancelled.
 
 	k. If both the Challenger and the Challenged players publically agree
 that the Game or Contest being used for a Duel has been fatally
 compromised [for instance by a third party revealing the Fictionary
 definition or an error in the Game's rules], a new Game or Contest may
 be selected, and the Duel is restarted.
 
 POLITEDUEL

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4220
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:13:42 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4220
The Harfer Protection Act
else...if
Due: Tue Jun 29 12:13:42 1999
Sphere: Hypnotist of Ladies

	Create rule 1-9, "Harfer Protection" with the following FAIRISFAIR
delimited text
FAIRISFAIR
	No player shall be penalized in any way for sending a public
message which e is required or expected to send; this shall include any
harfing or other duties associated with officers e holds, as well as any
refereeing or similar activities.  This rule takes precedence over all
other rules, especially "Gaol" and "Pomp and Circumstance".
FAIRISFAIR

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4221
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:11:46 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4221
Way beyond blue
Laa Laa
Due: Tue Jun 29 20:11:44 1999
Sphere: Wombles of Wibbledon

In rule 1-2-9 (colours) replace:

"ochre; orange"

with

"ochre; octarine; orange"

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4222
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:11:57 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4222
Tidying
Laa Laa
Due: Tue Jun 29 20:11:55 1999
Sphere: Tocpe

Delete the last paragraph of rule 1-6-1-1 (True names)

[currently reads: "the prudent sorceror regarded his own true name as
his most valued possession but also the greatest threat to his continued
good health" Vernor Vinge, True Names (but with extra square brackets
around the last 4 words, which I don't want to nest)] 

Repeal rules 1-7-1, 1-7-2, 1-7-3, 1-7-4, and 1-7-5

[various paradigm types, even though paradigms seem to be undefined
right now (and nobody had best try unilaterally changing the paradigm
type either)]

Repeal rule 2-1-3-1 [it is almost identical to rule 2-1-3]

Delete from rule 4-4-5-2 the following:

"1 honour: Bribing players (not Tammany) on a proposal."

In rule 10-1-5 (fairy land) replace:

"No one is certain exactly were Fairy Land is"

with:

"No one is certain exactly where Fairy Land is"

[correcting a typo]

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Subject: Acka: Proposal 4223
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:33:14 -0400 (EDT)

Proposal 4223
Removing some more dingleberries from the rules
/dev/joe
Due: Tue Jun 29 23:33:13 1999
Sphere: Hypnotist of Ladies

Delete the text "This Rule is Unassailable." wherever it appears
in the text of rules.

In rule 4-4-7, "Voting Characteristic", change "Active" to "Voting" in
the sentence "No player may raise their Voting Characteristic above 50% of
the number of Active Players."

In rule 7-4-1, "Convertible Economics", change

"Unlimited Conversions:
 The Conversions listed here may be performed any number of time as
 long as each individual Conversion is legal."

to:

"Almost-Unlimited Conversions:
 The Conversions listed here may be performed up to 100 times each per
 day per player, as long as each individual Conversion is legal."

{{[ Puts some limits on scams, without restricting almost any reasonable
legit usage. ]}}

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