acka-voting Digest Thursday, December 03 1998 Volume 03 : Issue 214
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From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3806 rejected
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 02:45:45 -0500 (EST)
Proposal 3806
Votes: 15/24 (8 YES votes): Quorum met
Yes votes: 8/14: proposal rejected
Yes:
r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Euphrates
K 2
Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs)
else...if
sIRE
MTM (The Razor Boomerangs)
No:
smallpox blanket (Klingon)
Slakko (SPAM)
/dev/joe (Vulcan)
Vynd
ThinMan (Vulcan)
JT (The Razor Boomerangs)
Baa:
Alfvaen (MetaMorph)
Abstain
Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph)
IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
Wallace
Calvin N Hobbes
Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
rufus
Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Wild Card
two-star
Pending & did not vote:
Danek
scout
Red Barn
Vacationing & did not vote:
Aunt Froot
Ethelred
J. M. Bear (MetaMorph)
saaremaa (Vulcan)
>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3806
>
>Proposal 3806
>We All Want To Change the World
>The Green Ripper
>Due: Wed Dec 2 23:44:38 1998
>
>
>In Rule 320, "Governments," delete any sentence with the string "50%" in
>it. [ There are several Proposals in the works to change this sentence,
>so I just want to be able to get it no matter what. For those of you who
>like it, never fear; it comes back farther on. ]
>
>In Rule 320, "Governments," replace sections 4 and 5 with the text "4.
>When the Revolution ends, the Proto-Government shall become Active. If no
>other Rule specifies a means of ending the Revolution, it shall end
>exactly one week after it began."
>
>[ & while I'm here ]
>In Rule 320, "Governments," replace "1 and 0 respectively" with "1 and 0
>respectively."
>
>Create a Rule entitled "ASS Song: Revolution" as a member of the ASS
>Rule Suite, containing the following GENERATION-delimited text:
>
>GENERATION
>Title: Revolution
>
>Artist: The Beatles
>
>Trigger: 50% or more of all voting players have a Rebelliousness
>characteristic of "On" and this fact is pointed out publically.
>
>Cost: A$1917 {{ [ Cheap at half the price! ] }}
>
>Effect: When this Song begins playing, a Revolution begins as described in
>Rule 320, "Governments." The Revolution ends only when this Song ceases
>to play; this sentence takes precedence over Rule 320. Despite the title,
>when this Song begins playing, it shall sound randomly exactly like one of
>the Beatles' "Revolution," "Revolution 1," and "Revolution 9."
>
>Duration: One Acka week.
>
>Explanation: "You say you want a revolution, well, you know we all want to
>change the world." [The Beatles, "Revolution"] "Shoo bee doo wap, aaah,
>shoo be doo wap." [The Beatles, "Revolution 1"] "Number nine, number
>nine, number nine, number nine" [The Beatles, "Revolution 9"]
>GENERATION
>
>If Proposal 3793 was accepted, replace "one week" in section 4 of Rule
>320, "Governments," with "three days," and replace "One Acka week" in the
>Rule entitled "ASS Song: Revolution" with "Three Acka days".
>
>Hubert gains a Losing Condition.
>
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From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3807 rejected
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 02:45:56 -0500 (EST)
Proposal 3807
Votes: 15/24 (8 YES votes): Quorum met
Yes votes: 8/14: proposal rejected
Yes:
r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato)
smallpox blanket (Klingon)
K 2
Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs)
Vynd
else...if
MTM (The Razor Boomerangs)
No:
Alfvaen (MetaMorph)
Euphrates
Slakko (SPAM)
/dev/joe (Vulcan)
ThinMan (Vulcan)
JT (The Razor Boomerangs)
Baa:
sIRE
Abstain
Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph)
IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
Wallace
Calvin N Hobbes
Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
rufus
Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Wild Card
two-star
Pending & did not vote:
Danek
scout
Red Barn
Vacationing & did not vote:
Aunt Froot
Ethelred
J. M. Bear (MetaMorph)
saaremaa (Vulcan)
>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3807
>
>Proposal 3807
>After Us The Deluge
>The Green Ripper
>Due: Wed Dec 2 23:49:00 1998
>
>
>A Party Chess Piece Locust is created in the possession of each Swinger.
>
>[ THIS should get the Scaremonger going. ]
>
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From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3808 rejected
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 02:46:07 -0500 (EST)
Proposal 3808
Votes: 15/24 (8 YES votes): Quorum met
Yes votes: 8/14: proposal rejected
Yes:
r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Slakko (SPAM)
K 2
/dev/joe (Vulcan)
Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs)
else...if
MTM (The Razor Boomerangs)
No:
Euphrates
**** Bonus Vote (JT) ****
smallpox blanket (Klingon)
Vynd
ThinMan (Vulcan)
JT (The Razor Boomerangs)
Baa:
Alfvaen (MetaMorph)
sIRE
Abstain
Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph)
IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
Wallace
Calvin N Hobbes
Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
rufus
Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Wild Card
two-star
Pending & did not vote:
Danek
scout
Red Barn
Vacationing & did not vote:
Aunt Froot
Ethelred
J. M. Bear (MetaMorph)
saaremaa (Vulcan)
>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3808
>
>Proposal 3808
>Head Games
>The Green Ripper
>Due: Thu Dec 3 00:03:33 1998
>
>
>[ Gist: As the title implies, this Proposal plays around with heads. One
>can buy heads from the AIGR as usual, or can remove them from the bodies
>of opponents vanquished in Duels if one has a Highlander's Sword. (This
>provides a reason other than novelty to own an HS.) One can use a head
>one has won to win the Thrall of its original owner. Hats stick on Heads
>and change ownership when their Heads do. ]
>
>Amend section a) of Rule 594.28, "Blueprint: Highlander's Sword," to read
>"If the loser of the Duel owns any attached heads, the winner's Sword
>detaches one at random and transfers it to the possession of the winner.
>Otherwise, it transfers one of the loser's unattached heads, chosen at
>random, to the winner. In any case, if the loser owns a Highlander's
>Sword, that Sword destroys itself out of shame." [ Players with no Heads
>can no longer become involved in Duels and forfeit any they might be in. ]
>
>Delete section b) of Rule 594.28, "Blueprint: Highlander's Sword." [ The
>transferred sword is destroyed anyway, as THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! uh,
>Highlander's Sword per player. ]
>
>Delete the text "If both duelists have a sword, the penalties from the
>loser's sword are applied first." from the same Rule. [ Since the
>penalties have changed from loss of points to loss of heads, I don't see
>why the penalties from the loser's Sword should be applied twice,
>causing eir Sword to cut off eir own head. ]
>
>Replace the final paragraph of Rule 594.28, "Blueprint: Highlander's
>Sword" [having to do with Sword owners losing points for not being in
>Duels] with the text "Each Saturday when the Raft and/or the Oars are
>distributed, each player owning a Highlander's Sword who is not involved
>in a Duel either as a principal or a Second loses 1 point."
>
>Create a rule numbered 857, entitled "Getting a Head" with the following
>BOLEYN-delimited text:
>
>BOLEYN
>The Head Shop is a cozy building near Vulcan Headquarters. It is owned by
>the Headmaster, who is a unique nontradeable entity and owns himself. The
>Headmaster's location is always the Head Shop unless specified otherwise
>by the Rules. Any player who is in the Head Shop and owns an unattached
>head and a neck without a head attached [ i.e., has more necks than
>attached heads ] may pay the Standard Harfer Fee to the Treasury, upon
>which the Headmaster will attach the specified head to a vacant neck of
>that player; the head then becomes attached to that neck and associated
>with the attaching player.
>BOLEYN
>
>Create a rule numbered 1372, entitled "Head Games", with the following
>LENNON-delimited text:
>
>LENNON
>Necks are nontradeable entities. Heads are nontradeable entities which
>exist only in two states: attached and unattached. Each head is
>associated with exactly one player, which may or may not be its owner.
>Heads may only change association or between the attached and unattached
>states as described in the Rules. No player may own more attached heads
>than e owns necks.
>
>The number of heads a player owns is referred to as eir Head Count. It is
>the responsibility of the Dungeonmaster to keep track of each player's
>Head Count, the state each Head is in (i.e. attached or unattached) and
>the players with which each head is associated. [ An attached head should
>always be associated with its owner. ]
>
>If a player has no attached heads, e cannot perform any action for which
>the Rules would require em to read (e.g. reading a Scroll of Crumble,
>Spell Book of Chorg, or the Ackanomicon) nor can e take any action other
>than submitting a public message for which e would be required to speak.
>If a player owns no Heads whatsoever, then in addition to the above e
>cannot become involved in any Duels and forfeits any Duels e may already
>be involved in. However, as having no Heads gives one a remarkably free
>and uncluttered perspective on life, the Wisdom characteristic of a player
>with no Heads is 3 greater than it would otherwise be, as long as e
>remains in that state.
>
>As a public action, a player may invoke Voodoo Mumbo-Jumbo on an
>unattached head in eir possession by unambiguously specifying the head in
>question and the player with whom that head is associated. In order for
>this action to be successful, the player must say "Memo to myself: do the
>dumb things I gotta do. Touch X's head." where X is replaced by the name
>of the player with whom the head in question is associated. It is also
>considered good form for the message to include some truly vile pun about
>heads.
>
>If the invocation of Voodoo Mumbo-Jumbo succeeds, the invoking player
>becomes the Overlord of the player with whom the head is associated (i.e.,
>the latter's Thrall Attribute is set to the name of the invoking player)
>and the Head used in the invocation is transferred to the player with whom
>it is associated.
>LENNON
>
>In Rule 854, "Ackanomic Institute of Genetic Replication," replace the
>text "Extra head: Cost -- 50 A$." with the text "Extra Neck: Cost -- 50
>A$. An extra neck is created in the purchaser's possession, and the AIGR
>will provide free of charge an extra head, created in the player's
>possession, associated with that player, and attached to their new neck."
>
>In Rule 931, "Garments, Especially Hats," replace "A player may wear at
>most one hat. This rule defers to any rule describing the the number and
>type of hats a player may wear." with "A Hat which is worn must always be
>worn on a single Head. At the time a Hat is donned, a player must specify
>a Head in eir possession which does not already contain a hat on which e
>wishes to don it. Thereafter, the Hat becomes so tightly attached to that
>Head that if the Head is transferred from Player A to Player B, the Hat
>changes ownership likewise. A player may doff a Hat from a Head e owns at
>any time, upon which that Hat becomes unworn. {{ Hubert loses 2 points;
>Pol Pot gains 2 points. }}"
>
>Create a number of Extra Neck mutations in the possession of each player
>equal to one greater than the number of Extra Head mutations which that
>player owns.
>
>All Extra Head mutations are destroyed. Each player gains a number of
>Heads equal to the number of Extra Neck mutations e owns; these Heads are
>created in eir possession, attached to a vacant Neck in eir possession,
>and become associated with em.
>
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From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3809 accepted
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 02:46:18 -0500 (EST)
Proposal 3809
Votes: 15/24 (12 YES votes): Quorum met
Yes votes: 13/15: proposal accepted
Yes:
r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato)
The Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote
Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato)
smallpox blanket (Klingon)
Slakko (SPAM)
K 2
/dev/joe (Vulcan)
Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs)
Vynd
else...if
ThinMan (Vulcan)
JT (The Razor Boomerangs)
MTM (The Razor Boomerangs)
No:
Alfvaen (MetaMorph)
Euphrates
Baa:
sIRE
Abstain
Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph)
IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
Wallace
Calvin N Hobbes
Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
rufus
Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Wild Card
two-star
Pending & did not vote:
Danek
scout
Red Barn
Vacationing & did not vote:
Aunt Froot
Ethelred
J. M. Bear (MetaMorph)
saaremaa (Vulcan)
>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3809
>
>Proposal 3809
>What's one more amendment?
>Vynd
>Due: Thu Dec 3 00:50:48 1998
>
>
>{{[Is this the most amended rule? Anyway... I don't like our system of
>handling Justices decling judgement. Specifically, I don't like how the
>CFJ stays with the same Cortex, but one or even both of that Cortex's
>owners are temporarily replaced. It makes it difficult to keep track of
>who is judging what, and its well, messy, at least for me. Under the
>proposed system, one Justice declining means that the CFJ is reassigned
>entirely.]}}
>
>Amend Rule 217 by replacing the paragraph that follows VI. Declining
>Appeal Judgement with the following text:
>
>When a CFJ is assigned to the Supreme Cortex that a Justice or Acting
>Justice owns, that Justice or Acting Justice may, as a public action,
>decline judgement on that CFJ, provided that the Cortex has not already
>returned a verdict. When a Justice or Acting Justice declines judgement on
>a CFJ, that CFJ is reassigned using the normal procedures for assigning a
>CFJ to a Cortex, except that it may not be assigned to any Cortex which is
>owned by a Justice or Acting Justice who has declined judgement on that
>CFJ. If this results in there being no Cortexes eligible to judge the
>appeal, then the CFJ will be considered by the entire Supreme Court.
>
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From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3810 rejected
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:24:35 -0500 (EST)
Proposal 3810
Votes: 15/24 (6 YES votes): Quorum met
Yes votes: 7/14: proposal rejected
Yes:
r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato)
else...if
Giant Objectionable Potato Unity Vote
Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato)
JT (The Razor Boomerangs)
MTM (The Razor Boomerangs)
No:
Euphrates
IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
K 2
/dev/joe (Vulcan)
Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs)
Vynd
ThinMan (Vulcan)
Baa:
Alfvaen (MetaMorph)
sIRE
Abstain
Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph)
smallpox blanket (Klingon)
Wallace
Slakko (SPAM)
Calvin N Hobbes
Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
rufus
Wild Card
two-star
Pending & did not vote:
Danek
scout
Red Barn
Vacationing & did not vote:
Aunt Froot
Ethelred
J. M. Bear (MetaMorph)
saaremaa (Vulcan)
>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3810
>
>Proposal 3810
>Teeth For Chewing
>Thomas Jute
>Due: Thu Dec 3 04:58:43 1998
>
>
>{{[As the situation currently stands, 101 prevents both effects of CFJs
>from occuring. It stops the retroactive fixes CFJ have been thought to
>introduce, and it keeps them from doing anything to games custom. Thus,
>there only effects are those which are predefined by other rules (Win
>Conditions for example), if this is rejected I think my next prop will be
>to repeal 215 as unnecessary.]}}
>
>Amend Rule 215 (Judgement-Rule Interaction) by replacing the TOOTHLESS
>delimited text with the DENTURES delimited text.
>
>TOOTHLESS
>All Judgements must be in accordance with all the rules in effect at the
>time judgement was invoked, and with respect to the
>game state at that time. When the rules are silent, inconsistent, or
>unclear on the statement in question, however, then the Judge
>shall consider currently existing game custom and the spirit of the game in
>reaching a decision.
>
>A statement verified (or nullified) by judgement applies retroactively to
>any past game situation it may concern.
>
>If a statement on which Judgement has been called is Judged to be true, and
>that Judgement is not overruled, it does not
>thereby become a rule, or any part of a rule. It merely becomes an explicit
>part of currently accepted game custom.
>TOOTHLESS
>
>DENTURES
>All Judgements must be in accordance with all the rules in effect at the
>time judgement was invoked, and with respect to the
>game state at that time. When the rules are silent, inconsistent, or
>unclear on the statement in question, however, then the Judge
>shall consider currently existing game custom and the spirit of the game in
>reaching a decision.
>
>A statement verified (or nullified) by judgement applies retroactively to
>any past game situation it may concern.
>
>If a statement on which Judgement has been called is Judged to be true, and
>that Judgement is not overruled, it does not
>thereby become a rule, or any part of a rule. It merely becomes an explicit
>part of currently accepted game custom.
>
>This rule takes precedence over Rule 101, even if Rule 101 says otherwise.
>DENTURES
>
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From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3811 rejected
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:24:45 -0500 (EST)
Proposal 3811
Votes: 14/24 (7 YES votes): Quorum not met
Yes:
r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato)
Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato)
else...if
Giant Objectionable Potato Unity Vote
Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato)
sIRE
JT (The Razor Boomerangs)
MTM (The Razor Boomerangs)
No:
Alfvaen (MetaMorph)
Euphrates
K 2
/dev/joe (Vulcan)
Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs)
Vynd
ThinMan (Vulcan)
Abstain
Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph)
smallpox blanket (Klingon)
IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
Wallace
Slakko (SPAM)
Calvin N Hobbes
Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
rufus
Wild Card
two-star
Pending & did not vote:
Danek
scout
Red Barn
Vacationing & did not vote:
Aunt Froot
Ethelred
J. M. Bear (MetaMorph)
saaremaa (Vulcan)
>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3811
>
>Proposal 3811
>local vs. global precedence
>Pol Pot
>Due: Thu Dec 3 05:01:23 1998
>
>
>Amend rule 102 by appending to it the following sentence
>
>If two or more rules claim precedence over each other, then rules which
>explicitly take precedence by name and/or number have stronger precedence
>than rules which do not.
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From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3811 rejected
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:21:44 -0500 (EST)
> Proposal 3811
>
> Votes: 14/24 (7 YES votes): Quorum not met
> Abstain
> Wallace
As Fortunato pointed out the other day, he is named Fortunato now and
changed his state to non-voting, so this proposal actually met quorum
(barely) but was still rejected with 8 YESes out of 15 votes.
VOTE, people!
/dev/joe
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