Subject: acka-voting-digest V3 #190
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acka-voting-digest     Wednesday, November 4 1998     Volume 03 : Number 190

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:01:08 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3709 accepted

Proposal 3709

Votes: 11/20 (9 YES votes): Quorum met by YES votes only
Yes votes: 10/11: proposal accepted

Yes:
  r-attila the farce   (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  A Mean Hat.          (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
  Wallace              
  Slakko               (SPAM)
  /dev/joe             (Vulcan)
  Vynd                 
  Giant Objectionable Potato Unity Vote
  Studge               (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  JT                   (The Razor Boomerangs)

No:
  Gromit               (The Razor Boomerangs)

Baa:
  Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)

Abstain
  IdiotBoy             (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
  K 2                  
  Calvin N Hobbes      (HARF)
  Robin Hood           (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
  rufus                (SPAM)
  ThinMan              (Vulcan)
  eirs                 (Klingon)
  Wild Card            (SPAM)
  two-star             

Vacationing & did not vote:
  AJ                   
  Rig R. Mortis        
  J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
  saaremaa             (Vulcan)

>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3709
>
>Proposal 3709
>Goosed Goose?
>JT
>Due: Wed Nov  4 00:57:47 1998
>
>{{[
>   This is an attempt to fix two problems.  First, the possible fact that
>   the timing of rules between rule 620 and rule 607 is not sufficient to
>   actually have given me the goose and prevented the winning condition.
>   Second, according to how the goose rules are worded, any judge can (on
>   a CWCFJ that e thinks is false) judge it undecided, giving the goose to
>   initiator, then when the Cortex judges it, it has a verdict of false,
>   the player gets the goose AGAIN and is forced to pay A$60.  This seems
>   a bit harsh, and too easily abused by the judge.   My opinion is that
>   Undecided should be a 'semi-verdict' as it is really a passing of the
>   buck, and thus an undecided CFJ should still be retractable and should
>   not give the player the goose.
>]}}
>
>Replace rule 620 (Chartreuse Goose), section 7 with the following 
>text as delimited by GOOSE_BE_GONE
>GOOSE_BE_GONE
>   7) Upon a player who possesses the Goose achieving any of the
>   following titles, the Goose is transferred Somewhere Else: Commander
>   of the Blue Cross, Officer of the Blue Cross, Sage o'Doe Gas, Agent of
>   KAOS, Angry Villager. If the event which granted one of these titles
>   also would have established a winning condition had the player not had
>   the Goose, this transfer is deemed to have occurred an infinitesimal
>   amount of time the winning condition would have been awarded.
>GOOSE_BE_GONE
>
>Replace rule 620 (Chartreuse Goose), section 1 with the following 
>text as delimited by NO_DOUBLE_GOOSING
>NO_DOUBLE_GOOSING
>   1) Upon a verdict of other than TRUE or UNDECIDED on a Winning
>   Condition CFJ, the initiator of the CFJ receives the Goose from
>   wherever it is. If the initiator already has the Goose, however,
>   they shall transfer an A$60 court fee to the Clerk of the Court.
>NO_DOUBLE_GOOSING
>
>Amend rule 330 (Retractions) by replacing the following RETRACT delimited
>text
>RETRACT
>   A player may retract his own CFJ as a public action. This action will
>   fail if a verdict on the CFJ has already been delivered. The player
>   retracting the CFJ does not lose any points unless the CFJ was a
>   paradox win CFJ or a cycle win CFJ in which case e loses 3 points.
>RETRACT
>with the following BUCK_PASSING delimited text
>BUCK_PASSING
>   A player may retract his own CFJ as a public action. This action will
>   fail if a verdict other than Undecided has already been delivered on
>   the CFJ. The player retracting the CFJ does not lose any points
>   unless the CFJ was a paradox win CFJ or a cycle win CFJ in which case
>   e loses 3 points.
>BUCK_PASSING

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:01:13 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3710 accepted

Proposal 3710

Votes: 12/20 (9 YES votes): Quorum met
Yes votes: 9/12: proposal accepted

Yes:
  r-attila the farce   (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
  A Mean Hat.          (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  Wallace              
  Slakko               (SPAM)
  /dev/joe             (Vulcan)
  Vynd                 
  JT                   (The Razor Boomerangs)
  Wild Card            (SPAM)

No:
  Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
  Gromit               (The Razor Boomerangs)
  Studge               (Giant Objectionable Potato)

Abstain
  IdiotBoy             (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
  K 2                  
  Calvin N Hobbes      (HARF)
  Robin Hood           (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
  rufus                (SPAM)
  ThinMan              (Vulcan)
  eirs                 (Klingon)
  two-star             

Vacationing & did not vote:
  AJ                   
  Rig R. Mortis        
  J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
  saaremaa             (Vulcan)

>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3710
>
>Proposal 3710
>Use Them While They Last
>Slakko
>Due: Wed Nov  4 02:55:13 1998
>
>
>This is a Modest Proposal.
>
>Append the following ANTISCAM-delimited text to rule 1003,
>"Organizations":
>
>ANTISCAM
>10. The Principle of Otzma
>
>Organizations are faceless corporations, and so have no real understanding
>of the power that lurks in cards.  Therefore, if any Organization owns an
>Otzma Card, that Otzma Card is destroyed.
>ANTISCAM
>

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:01:18 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3713 rejected

Proposal 3713

Votes: 11/20 (7 YES votes): Quorum not met

Yes:
  r-attila the farce   (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  A Mean Hat.          (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  Wallace              
  Slakko               (SPAM)
  /dev/joe             (Vulcan)
  Giant Objectionable Potato Unity Vote
  Studge               (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  JT                   (The Razor Boomerangs)

No:
  Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
  Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
  Gromit               (The Razor Boomerangs)
  Vynd                 

Abstain
  IdiotBoy             (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
  K 2                  
  Calvin N Hobbes      (HARF)
  Robin Hood           (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
  rufus                (SPAM)
  ThinMan              (Vulcan)
  eirs                 (Klingon)
  Wild Card            (SPAM)
  two-star             

Vacationing & did not vote:
  AJ                   
  Rig R. Mortis        
  J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
  saaremaa             (Vulcan)

>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3713
>
>Proposal 3713
>Ordering Please
>Slakko
>Due: Wed Nov  4 04:20:44 1998
>
>
>This is a Modest Proposal.
>
>[This proposal is really a fixup, designed to prevent the Mad Hatters
>being used as a dumping ground.]
>
>Append the following paragraph to the Rule "Mercury Poisoning":
>
>A player may not trade an Agenda Hat to the Mad Hatters if said trade
>would result in the player having a Winning Condition.  It is, however,
>legal to trade an Agenda Hat away from the Mad Hatters to achieve a
>Winning Condition.
>

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:01:24 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3714 rejected

Proposal 3714

Votes: 12/20 (5 YES votes): Quorum met
Yes votes: 6/13: proposal rejected

Tammany Bribes:
Alfvaen A$55 yes

Yes:
  r-attila the farce   (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
  IdiotBoy             (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
  Wallace              
  Slakko               (SPAM)
  Tammany

No:
  A Mean Hat.          (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  **** Bonus Vote (Gromit) ****
  Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
  /dev/joe             (Vulcan)
  Gromit               (The Razor Boomerangs)
  Studge               (Giant Objectionable Potato)
  JT                   (The Razor Boomerangs)

Baa:
  Vynd                 

Abstain
  K 2                  
  Calvin N Hobbes      (HARF)
  Robin Hood           (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
  rufus                (SPAM)
  ThinMan              (Vulcan)
  eirs                 (Klingon)
  Wild Card            (SPAM)
  two-star             

Vacationing & did not vote:
  AJ                   
  Rig R. Mortis        
  J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
  saaremaa             (Vulcan)

>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3714
>
>Proposal 3714
>Show your disaffection here!
>IdiotBoy
>Due: Wed Nov  4 13:42:01 1998
>
>{{All extant Otzma Cards are destroyed.}}

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