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acka-voting-digest    Wednesday, September 16 1998    Volume 03 : Number 158

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:30:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3558 accepted

Results of Proposal 3558

24/31 votes: Quorum achieved
15/16 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Rig R. Mortis
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2
Weishaupt
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
Fortunato
Fo                   (SPAM)
Studge
Piz

    NO:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)

    BAA!:
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Eris                 (Klingon)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
two-star
Memo
Altra the FireCat
marsboy

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3558 - Tue 08 Sep 1998 05:50 EDT
> BAA!
> Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
> 
> Repeal rule 1240.5 (Otzma Card of Type Rod & Staff)

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:30:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3559 accepted

Results of Proposal 3559

26/31 votes: Quorum achieved
15/19 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
saaremaa
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Eris                 (Klingon)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
Fortunato
marsboy
Studge
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
two-star
rufus                (SPAM)
Fo                   (SPAM)
Piz

    BAA!:
Rig R. Mortis
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Memo
Altra the FireCat

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3559 - Tue 08 Sep 1998 05:52 EDT
> Until The Handle Breaks Off
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> {{[ Now it should perhaps be non-Null... ]}}
> 
> {{[ In my game of Bacon with K 2, it turned into a contest of trying to
> find the most obscure actron that the other player had never heard of. Just
> to provide a little bit of a guard against that... Unfortunately, it will
> slow the game down a bit, but hopefully not too badly. ]}}
> 
> Amend Rule 1250.22, "Bacon", as follows:
> 
> Replace the following text(delimited by FURRFU):
> 
> FURRFU
> The game consists of a series of rounds. At the start of each round, each
> player must name an actor or actress(hereafter referred to as an actron),
> who has appeared in at least one movie as specified in the Movie Database.
> This naming period is over when both players have named an actron, or three
> days have passed since the referee announced the start of the round,
> whichever comes first; in the latter case, if one player named an actron
> and the other did not, then the first player wins the round, and if neither
> named an actron then the round is a draw.
> FURRFU
> 
> with the following text(delimited by WAYNE):
> 
> WAYNE
> The game consists of a series of rounds. At the start of each round, each
> player must privately email the name of an actor or actress(hereafter
> referred to as an actron), who has appeared in at least one movie as
> specified in the Movie Database. This naming period is over when both
> players have named an actron, or three days have passed since the referee
> announced the start of the round, whichever comes first; in the latter
> case, if one player named an actron and the other did not, then the first
> player wins the round, and if neither named an actron then the round is a
> draw.
> 
> The referee then posts the names of both actrons. The players have three
> days to either object to each others' selection, or to state that they are
> satisfied with it. If the three days pass with no objections, or both
> players state that they are satisfied, then the actrons are deemed to be
> accepted. If one or both players object, then the referee must rule on each
> actron thus objected to. If the referee rules that the actron is too
> obscure, then the player who selected that actron loses one Gamepoint. If
> the referee rules that the actron is not too obscure, then the player who
> objected loses one Gamepoint. If one or both actrons is rules to be too
> obscure, then the naming period begins again(and both players must email
> the name of another actron to the referee), otherwise play proceeds.
> WAYNE
> 
> {{[ A lot rests on the referee here, but e can certainly use the Movie
> Database to determine how many movies an actron has been in, if nothing
> else. Or ask for information privately from the player who suggested em.
> ]}}
> 
> Replace the text "After the actrons have been named for a round" with
> "After the actrons are accepted".
> 
> Replace the text "from the time the naming period ends" with "from the time
> the actrons are accepted".
> 
> Replace the text "The winner of a round receives a Gamepoint" with "The
> winner of a round receives 2 Gamepoints".
> 
> Replace the text "first player to obtain 5 Gamepoints" with "first player
> to obtain 10 Gamepoints".

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:31:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3562 accepted

Results of Proposal 3562

26/31 votes: Quorum achieved
23/25 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
K 2
two-star
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Eris                 (Klingon)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
Fortunato
marsboy
Fo                   (SPAM)
Studge
Ethelred             (AVPP)
SPAM Unity Vote
MetaMorph Unity Vote

    NO:
Rig R. Mortis
Piz

    BAA!:
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Memo
Altra the FireCat

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3562 - Tue 08 Sep 1998 06:02 EDT
> Oh Lordy
> breadbox (Brian Raiter)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> {{[I'm not sure that this isn't already implied by the wording of Rule 250,
> but it can't hurt to make it explicit. By the way, this text is taken
> almost verbatim from the previous version of Rule 250.]}}
> 
> Amend Rule 250 by inserting the following as a new paragraph immediately
> after the text "Non-player persons are not entities.":
> 
> No natural person may be associated with more than one player concurrently.
> No matter how many times a person legally registers as a player in
> Ackanomic, that person is always considered the same player. [That is, if a
> player quits and later rejoins, e is considered the same player.] {{If any
> natural person has more than one player associated with em, then all of eir
> players except the oldest immediately become non-players. Furthermore, if
> any of the players so removed were active at the time, the surviving player
> is penalized 69 points [for trying to scam this stupid loophole].}}

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:33:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3563 rejected

Results of Proposal 3563

25/30 votes: Quorum achieved
11/25 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Weishaupt
rufus                (SPAM)
Eris                 (Klingon)
Fortunato
marsboy
Fo                   (SPAM)
SPAM Unity Vote

    NO:
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2
two-star
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
Ethelred             (AVPP)
Piz

    BAA!:
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Studge
Rig R. Mortis
Altra the FireCat

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3563 - Wed 09 Sep 1998 13:38 EDT
> Grey Unity
> Wild Card (Jonathan David Amery)
> 
> Add to the end of rule 1031 (Grey Council) the following
> SUMMUTUSEFUL-delimited text.
> 
> SUMMUTUSEFUL
> If all the members of the Grey Council vote YES on the same proposal then
> one "Grey Counil Unity Vote" shall be voted by the Council itself YES on
> the proposal, in a similar manner to a Political Party. Only one such vote
> is ever made regardless of the size of the Council.
> SUMMUTUSEFUL

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:34:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3564 rejected

Results of Proposal 3564

26/30 votes: Quorum achieved
8/22 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Weishaupt
Eris                 (Klingon)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
Fortunato
marsboy
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
two-star
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Fo                   (SPAM)
Studge
Piz

    BAA!:
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Rig R. Mortis
Altra the FireCat

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3564 - Wed 09 Sep 1998 13:39 EDT
> Some Permanance around here please...
> Wild Card (Jonathan David Amery)
> 
> I was young and foolish then, I feel old and foolish now.
> 
> Create a rule with the lowest integer number greater that all others within
> the Blueprints rule suite named "Shield of Permanence" with the following
> FUBAR-delimited text.
> 
> FUBAR
> 
> There exists a unique named tradeable entity that is a gadget named The
> Shield of Permanence.
> 
> If anything causes a gadget owned by the player who owns The Shield of
> Permanence to be destroyed then the following happens:
> 
> 1) The gadget that was destroyed is recreated within their possession.
> 
> 2) The Shield of Permanence shimmers briefly and is transfered to a
> randomly determined player.
> 
> {{If there doesn't exist an entity named The Shield of Permanence then
> create The Shield of Permanence in the possession of a randomly determined
> active, voting player.}}
> 
> FUBAR

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:34:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3565 rejected

Results of Proposal 3565

26/30 votes: Quorum achieved
7/23 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
K 2
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Fo                   (SPAM)
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
two-star
Weishaupt
rufus                (SPAM)
Eris                 (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
Fortunato
marsboy
Studge
Piz

    BAA!:
saaremaa
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Rig R. Mortis
Altra the FireCat

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3565 - Wed 09 Sep 1998 13:40 EDT
> Guerillas at the Ballot Box? No Way.
> Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> Amend Rule 320 by replacing the following CHE-delimited text:
> 
> CHE
> All players have a rebeliousness characteristic which may either be "on" or
> "off" (the default value is off). A player may freely change the value of
> this characteristic by publicly stating that they are doing so, and what
> they are changing it too.
> CHE
> 
> with the following GUEVARA-delimited text:
> 
> GUEVARA
> All players have a rebeliousness characteristic which may either be "on" or
> "off" (the default value is off). A player may freely change the value of
> this characteristic by publicly stating that they are doing so, and what
> they are changing it to, provided that they have not changed the value of
> the characteristic of their own accord during the current calendar week.
> 
> Exactly those players whose rebeliousness characteristic are "on" are
> Rebels. Rebels are ineligible to vote.
> GUEVARA
> 
> [The once per calendar week thing gives this some effect. If you were
> intent on overthrowing your lawfully elected government (or lawfully
> appointed, whatever) by revolution (not by the statute book - i.e.
> proposal) why should you be accorded the rights of other citizens? ]

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:35:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3567 accepted

Results of Proposal 3567

26/30 votes: Quorum achieved
14/23 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2
Wild Card            (SPAM)
two-star
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
Fortunato
marsboy
Studge
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
saaremaa
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
rufus                (SPAM)
Eris                 (Klingon)
Fo                   (SPAM)
Piz

    BAA!:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Rig R. Mortis
Altra the FireCat

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3567 - Wed 09 Sep 1998 13:42 EDT
> DoppelSlakko for real
> JT (JT Traub)
> 
> Create a new rule with the smallest integer greater than 1200 and less than
> 1300 which is valid to be a rule titled "The Illustrious DoppelSlakko" and
> the text as delimited by CONFUSION
> CONFUSION
> There exists the office of DoppelSlakko with one seat.
> The player who holds this seat is known as the DoppelSlakko.
> 
> The office of DoppelSlakko has no priveledges.
> 
> The office of DoppelSlakko has the following duties:
> a) once per calendar month, the DoppelSlakko must submit a proposal which
> attempts to break the game in some fashion. This proposal must contain the
> furniture 'Warning: Attempting to break the game'. When the proposal
> mentioned previously has it's voting period expire all players will
> automatically vote NO on this proposal an infinitesimal amount of time
> before its voting period ends. An infinitesimal amount of time before that,
> Tammany will vote YES on it. This takes precedence over any other rules
> regarding voting. If the DoppelSlakko fails to submit such a proposal, they
> lose 25 points.
> 
> Any player may claim the office of DoppelSlakko by posting a proposal with
> the furniture 'Warning: Attempting to break the game'. If that proposal is
> rejected, the former DoppelSlakko immediately steps down and then the
> player who submitted the proposal fills the office. This is the only way
> this office may be filled, and this takes precedence over any rule other
> than this one regarding offices and who may fill them.
> 
> {{The office of DoppelSlakko is filled by K 2}}
> CONFUSION

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:35:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3568 rejected

Results of Proposal 3568

25/30 votes: Quorum achieved
4/20 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
rufus                (SPAM)
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2
two-star
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
Fortunato
Fo                   (SPAM)
Studge
Piz

    BAA!:
saaremaa
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
Eris                 (Klingon)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Rig R. Mortis
Altra the FireCat
marsboy

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3568 - Wed 09 Sep 1998 13:43 EDT
> Fighting over the slaves
> Ethelred (David Kenning)
> 
> This is a modest proposal
> 
> [Currently it is possible to change a player's thrall attribute by the
> normal rule-defined methods regardless of whether or not their thrall
> attribute is already set to the name of another player, but I think a
> Player's current thrall value should influence your ability to change it]
> 
> 1. Add the following THRALL-delimited text to the end of Rule 750/0:
> 
> THRALL
> If Player [S] has a Thrall attribute the value of which is the name of a
> Player [T], then Player [S] may be said to be "in thrall to" Player [T].
> THRALL
> 
> [just to make "in thrall to" a rule-defined term (it isn't already is it?),
> which also makes the wording of the other parts of this proposal easier]
> 
> 2. Replace the second paragraph of Rule 755/1 (currently: "When a Proposal
> which is part of a Potential Enthrallment is accepted, the Player mentioned
> in the Potential Enthrallment has their Thrall Attribute set to the name of
> the author of that Proposal.") with the following SLAVE-delimited text:
> 
> SLAVE
> When a Proposal which is part of a Potential Enthrallment is accepted, the
> Player mentioned in the Potential Enthrallment has their Thrall Attribute
> set to the name of the author of that Proposal, provided at least one of
> the following conditions is true:
> 
> i) the Player mentioned in the Potential Enthrallment is not already in
> Thrall to any other Active Player, unless condition ii is true.
> 
> ii) [Player X] is in thrall to [Player Y] and [Player Y] is in thrall to
> [Player Z] where [Player X] is the name of the Player indicated in the
> Potential Enthrallment, [Player Z] is the name of the author of the
> proposal indicated in the Potential Enthrallment, and [Player Y] is the
> name of another Active Player.
> 
> iii) the Player mentioned in the Potential Enthrallment is already in
> thrall to another Player, but the author of the proposal indicated in the
> Potential Enthrallment has won a duel against that player during the
> current cycle.
> SLAVE
> 
> [other conditions can be added later, but these are just some suggestions
> to start with.]
> 
> 3. Amend the third paragraph of Rule 755/1 (currently: "When a Proposal
> which is part of a Potential Enthrallment is rejected, the author of that
> Proposal has their Thrall Attribute set to the name of the Player mentioned
> in the Potential Enthrallment.") to the following SERVANT-delimited text:
> 
> SERVANT
> When a Proposal which is part of a Potential Enthrallment is rejected, the
> author of that Proposal has their Thrall Attribute set to the name of the
> Player mentioned in the Potential Enthrallment, unless e is already in
> thrall to another Player.
> SERVANT

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:36:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3569 rejected

Results of Proposal 3569

26/30 votes: Quorum achieved
3/25 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2
two-star
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
rufus                (SPAM)
Eris                 (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
Fortunato
marsboy
Fo                   (SPAM)
Studge
Piz

    BAA!:
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Rig R. Mortis
Altra the FireCat

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3569 - Wed 09 Sep 1998 13:44 EDT
> Government Type: Plutocracy
> Ethelred (David Kenning)
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> Create a new rule in the Governments Rule Suite with the following
> MONEYMONEYMONEY-delimited text:
> 
> MONEYMONEYMONEY
> When the current Government type is Plutocracy, only the wealthiest active
> player (i.e. the active player with the largest positive number of
> Ackadollars) may vote on proposals.
> MONEYMONEYMONEY

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:37:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3572 accepted

Results of Proposal 3572

26/30 votes: Quorum achieved
13/21 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Robert Sevin         (Harf)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Weishaupt
Eris                 (Klingon)
Aunt Froot           (AVPP)
marsboy
Fo                   (SPAM)
Studge
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Fortunato
Piz

    BAA!:
saaremaa
breadbox
two-star
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Rig R. Mortis
Altra the FireCat

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3572 - Wed 09 Sep 1998 13:47 EDT
> A change is as good as a rest
> Ethelred (David Kenning)
> 
> Replace the first sentence of the third paragraph in Rule 320 (viz
> "Governmental Rules should specify who is eligible to vote on proposals (if
> it fails then all active voting players may vote), and may also specify any
> deviations from the normal rules.") with the following GOVT-delimited text:
> 
> GOVT
> Governmental Rules should specify who is eligible to vote on proposals (if
> it fails then all active voting players may vote), and may also specify any
> deviations from the normal rules and conditions under which that Government
> Type may become active, other than those listed below. It may also specify
> conditions other than those listed below under which a Revolution may start
> while that Government type is Active.
> GOVT
> 
> [I'm thinking here about things like military coups, plus ways I have in
> mind to overthrow certain government types other than by revolution.]

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:52:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3605

Proposal 3605
New, MSG-Free Harfing
Fo (Duncan Richer)

This is a Modest Proposal.

[I've been saying for a while that we could do with cleaning out some of
the clutter.  First, let's simplify the proposal scoring a bit.  Just a
bit, mind you.]

Repeal Rules 207.1 and 207.3.

[Contains monosodium glutamate has been around for a while.  The silliness
of the silly points has worn off, I think, and we may as well clear it
away.  Foolishness is more work for harfers, breadbox usually having to
point out the instances in which it fails (and hence e checks all the
foolish ones to make sure they comply).  I don't see why we need to keep
it, and if anything it just encourages more bad proposals to be submitted
again on the off chance.  Good proposals would tend to be resubmitted
even without the doubling of the reward, if enough support was obtained.]

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:53:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3606

Proposal 3606
The Haiku Boon
Robert Sevin (Mitchell Harding)

Any player who
writes a haiku about harf
is very harfy.

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:02:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3607

Proposal 3607
And this'll solve the Other Half.
K 2 (Kelly Kelly)

This is a Modest Proposal.

I. Amend rule 250 (Players and Player States) by replacing the existing
text which includes and occurs below the phrase "VI. Upon Becoming (and
while) On Ice:" with the following text:
"
VI. Upon Becoming (and while) On Ice:

a) They are removed from any offices they hold.

b) Section IV is applied as if they became Non-Voting.

c) All their existing votes on proposals, elections, and hearings whose
results have not yet been released are canceled.

d) Their score is set to 0. Players who are On Ice never gain or lose
points, nor do they ever gain entities.

e) They are removed from all organizations of which they are a member.

f) If the Player never voted, their state is changed to Non-Player.

g) All of their mimsy entities are transferred to the treasury.

h) Upon being On-Ice for 90 days, their state is changed to Non-Player,
unless they (or their likeness) is enshrined in the Hall of
Elders, in which case they will never become a Non-Player.

VII. Upon Becoming a Non-Player:

a) E is removed from the CFJ Ineligibility List if possible.

b) All of eir tradeable entities are transferred to the treasury except
for land and buildings which become unowned. All of eir
nontradeable entities are destroyed.

This rule has precedence over all other rules.
"

II. [Repair the damage]
a. {{ All entities which were destroyed as a result of Rule 250, Section
VI, Subsection b, while it read:
"
All of eir tradeable entities are transferred to the treasury. All of
eir nontradeable, nonunique entities are destroyed. Of all eir remaining
entities, if it would be possible by some means not defined in this rule
for a given entity to go Somewhere Else, it does so; otherwise, it is
transferred to a random active player.
"
shall be un-destroyed (ie created with the same properties, creator,
creation date etc. as they had before they were destroyed) and restored
to eir former owners. Similarly those entities which were transferred as
a result of the application of the quoted section shall be returned to
the players who owned them prior to the application of that section.}}

b. {{ The trinket Little Bag O' Chips A is transferred from mr cwm to K
2 [Wadaya mean I should read the rules before playing an otzma card]}}

c. {{One point is transfered from K 2 to breadbox}}

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:23:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3605

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, nomicbot wrote:

> Proposal 3605
> New, MSG-Free Harfing
> Fo (Duncan Richer)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> [I've been saying for a while that we could do with cleaning out some of
> the clutter.  First, let's simplify the proposal scoring a bit.  Just a
> bit, mind you.]
> 
> Repeal Rules 207.1 and 207.3.
> 
> [Contains monosodium glutamate has been around for a while.  The silliness
> of the silly points has worn off, I think, and we may as well clear it
> away.  Foolishness is more work for harfers, breadbox usually having to
> point out the instances in which it fails (and hence e checks all the
> foolish ones to make sure they comply).  I don't see why we need to keep
> it, and if anything it just encourages more bad proposals to be submitted
> again on the off chance.  Good proposals would tend to be resubmitted
> even without the doubling of the reward, if enough support was obtained.]
> 

Well I for one don't want to see Silliness go away.  I agree that
Foolishness is more trouble than its worth though.  I think the reason
that Contains Monosodium Glutamate has stuck for so long is because its
more well, dumb, than silly.  Who can write a decent proposal with that
phrase?

Vynd

[email-masked]

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