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acka-voting-digest    Wednesday, September 9 1998    Volume 03 : Number 152

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:56:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3526 accepted

Results of Proposal 3526

21/27 votes: Quorum achieved
17/20 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Rig R. Mortis
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
Eris                                    [Eris is no longer pending]
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Studge
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Ethelred             (AVPP)
Piz
MetaMorph Unity Vote

    NO:
K 2                  (AVPP)
rufus                (SPAM)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)

    BAA!:
breadbox
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
two-star
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3526 - Tue 01 Sep 1998 08:37 EDT
> Training Regime fix
> JT (JT Traub)
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> In rule 1390.6, replace 23 with 16. {{[this puts the value back in line]}}
> Renumber rule 1390.6 so that it is a member of the Otzma Card Rule suite
> with the smallest positive subnumber not already a rule.

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:00:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3527 accepted

Results of Proposal 3527

22/27 votes: Quorum achieved
13/20 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
two-star
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Weishaupt
Eris
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Studge
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Ethelred             (AVPP)
Piz

    NO:
Rig R. Mortis
breadbox
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (AVPP)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
rufus                (SPAM)

    BAA!:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3527 - Tue 01 Sep 1998 08:38 EDT
> Nameless Thing #-2
> Attila the Pun (Micah Smukler)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal
> 
> Amend subsection IIe of rule 250 ("Players and Player States") to replace
> "the length of time since they first registered as a Player of Ackanomic
> (or when the game started, whichever is less)." with "the length of time
> since they first registered as a Player of Ackanomic (or since when the
> game started, whichever is less)."
> 
> {{[An age is not a date.]}}
> 
> ---
> 
> Replace subsection VIb of rule 250 with "b) All of eir tradeable entities
> are transferred to the treasury. All of eir nontradeable, nonunique
> entities are destroyed. Of all eir remaining entities, if it would be
> possible by some means not defined in this rule for a given entity to go
> Somewhere Else, it does so; otherwise, it is transferred to a random active
> player.
> 
> {{[Why should the Treasury own pointy ears?]}}
> 
> {{[And a minor fix to make it work better...]}}
> 
> Amend rule 927 ("The Chocolate Frog") by inserting the text ", unique"
> immediately after the text "named".
> 
> ---
> 
> Amend rule 251 ("Player Names") by replacing the SEMISCAMMY-delimited text
> below with the SOMEWHATSAFER text below
> 
> SEMISCAMMY
> If the Registrar acknowledges a legal name change, or after three days have
> passed if the Registrar neither acknowledges the change nor objects to
> it(andthe new name complies with all applicable rules), then the name
> change is accepted and occurs, at which time the player in question shall
> pay the Standard Harfer Fee.
> SEMISCAMMY
> 
> SOMEWHATSAFER
> If the Registrar acknowledges a legal name change, or after three days have
> passed if the Registrar (or, in the case of an attempt by the Registrar to
> change eir name, neither the President nor any Senator) neither
> acknowledges the change nor objects to it (and the new name complies with
> all applicable rules), then the name change is accepted and occurs, at
> which time the player in question shall pay the Standard Harfer Fee.
> SOMEWHATSAFER

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:01:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3528 rejected

Results of Proposal 3528

22/27 votes: Quorum achieved
8/22 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (AVPP)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Weishaupt
Eris
Slakko               (SPAM)
Tammany                                 [Weishaupt bribed Tammany A$25]

    NO:
Rig R. Mortis
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
two-star
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Studge
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Ethelred             (AVPP)
Piz

    BAA!:
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

> Proposal 3528 - Tue 01 Sep 1998 08:39 EDT
> I'm not going to retract my other proposal, but i'll make an
> equivalent one-time deal far in the future if you guys will freak
> less about it
> Weishaupt (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
> 
> 9/9/99@ 00:10 -- Names reverse, man!
> &
> Names reverse, man! (@ 01:00, 9-9-99)

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:07:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3529 rejected

Results of Proposal 3529

22/27 votes: Quorum achieved
10/18 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Rig R. Mortis
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
two-star
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Weishaupt
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Studge
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
breadbox
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (AVPP)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Eris                 (Klingon)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Piz

    BAA!:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

    PENDING:
Altra the FireCat

> Proposal 3529 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 06:48 EDT
> Fine, fine, i'll fix the freakin' hole
> Weishaupt (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
> 
> If any proposal, rule, gadget [such as the Big Blue Thing], or player
> action would change an entity's name to a name which has at any time been
> held by a different entity, or to any string containing "harf" in order in
> any capitalization structure, that action fails. If this is a mass action,
> it only fails in respect to this name change, and any others proceed
> accordingly.
> 
> "And there is no other name under heaven that has been given among
> men"[Acts 3:22]

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:08:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3530 rejected

Results of Proposal 3530

22/27 votes: Quorum achieved
8/19 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
K 2                  (AVPP)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Studge

    NO:
Rig R. Mortis
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
breadbox
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
two-star
rufus                (SPAM)
Eris                 (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Ethelred             (AVPP)
Piz

    BAA!:
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

    PENDING:
Altra the FireCat

> Proposal 3530 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 06:49 EDT
> Nouns
> Weishaupt (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
> 
> {{[This proposal's purpose? Possibly but not definitely a clue from
> Malenkai from a date many months before now for a treasure]
> 
> This proposal's effect? Score of the player with the name Weishaupt now his
> current score and one more.}}

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:09:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3531 accepted

Results of Proposal 3531

21/27 votes: Quorum achieved
12/20 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (AVPP)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
Eris                 (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Studge
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Ethelred             (AVPP)
Piz

    NO:
Rig R. Mortis
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Slakko               (SPAM)

    BAA!:
two-star

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

    PENDING:
Altra the FireCat

> Proposal 3531 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 06:50 EDT
> Silly Little Holiday
> Weishaupt (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
> 
> From day to day we contemplate the rules
> Amend, Revise, Repeal, without delay
> But who's to say that we are not just fools?
> To strive for all such things... And so I say,
> 
> Let one day be removed from all such thought
> One day be set aside, a day of rest
> October second all of us shall not
> Submit proposals, duel, or start a quest.
> 
> Upon this day, the players just debate
> Each year this custom is, and so remains
> Proposals, duels, and questing have to wait
> October Second, "Day to Rest our Brains"
> 
> [You think my sonnet cheesy? Wait a while;
> I've reason for this fourteen-verse-long style.]

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:09:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3532 rejected

Results of Proposal 3532

21/27 votes: Quorum achieved
6/21 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Rig R. Mortis
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Weishaupt
Studge
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (AVPP)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
two-star
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
rufus                (SPAM)
Eris                 (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Ethelred             (AVPP)
Piz

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

    PENDING:
Altra the FireCat

> Proposal 3532 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 06:51 EDT
> Loose Ends and Big Boulders
> Weishaupt (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
> 
> This is a modest proposal
> 
> {{As soon as this proposal is passed, there will be one random matchup of
> two active players to see if the strengths of one surpass the strengths of
> the other. The result is determined randomly, with an equal chance that
> each player wins. The winner gains a point and the loser loses a point.
> 
> Players are encouraged, but not required, to congratulate the winner and
> ridicule the loser. This does not take precedence over Rule 374
> 
> "Sitha bared its fangs. 'My master would not be pleased, an I slew you. We
> will pit strength at the stones.'" [Robert Jordan, Conan the Invincible,
> Ch. 22]
> 
> [I have purchased a party chess piece other than a pawn.]}}

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:10:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3533 rejected

Results of Proposal 3533

22/27 votes: Quorum achieved
10/20 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Rig R. Mortis
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
two-star
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Weishaupt
Eris                 (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Studge
Ethelred             (AVPP)
Piz

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
breadbox
K 2                  (AVPP)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
rufus                (SPAM)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Slakko               (SPAM)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    BAA!:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

    PENDING:
Altra the FireCat

> Proposal 3533 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 06:52 EDT
> Number mess ignored
> Studge (Tom Mueller)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> Create Rule 115 (Primes Defined) with the following MOSTMIGHTY delimited
> text:
> 
> MOSTMIGHTY
> For the purposes of the rules, a prime X is any integer greater than one
> with the property that when factored into all possible combinations of two
> positive integers these combinations are composed of only the numbers one
> and X. Only the number 29 is exempted from this test as 29 is too slovenly
> to be considered prime.
> MOSTMIGHTY
> 
> [We recently had a discussion of what exactly constituted a prime number
> which, if memory serves, was never fully clarified.]

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3534 accepted

Results of Proposal 3534

22/27 votes: Quorum achieved
12/18 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Rig R. Mortis
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
two-star
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Studge
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (AVPP)
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Piz

    BAA!:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
Eris                 (Klingon)
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

    PENDING:
Altra the FireCat

> Proposal 3534 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 06:53 EDT
> Correcting Quirky Coordinates Consummately
> Studge (Tom Mueller)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> Amend Rule 820/1 (Land) by replacing the ABCFHIJKLMNOPQRVWXYZ delimited
> text with the 0123456789 delimited text.
> 
> ABCFHIJKLMNOPQRVWXYZ
> The exact number of Kaas in the City varies, as earthquakes and other
> developments can create and destroy them. There are never less than 169
> Kaas, however. Kaas are never in the Treasury, even if unowned.
> ABCFHIJKLMNOPQRVWXYZ
> 
> 0123456789
> The exact number of Kaas in the City varies, as earthquakes and other
> developments can create and destroy them. The number of Kaas must always be
> the square of an odd integer greater than 12, however. Kaas are never in
> the Treasury, even if unowned.
> 0123456789
> 
> [The coordinate system describing Kaas seems to require the Lonely Mountain
> to be in a distinct Kaa in the middle of the City. If the square root of
> the Kaas is even, a distinct Lonely Mountain Kaa does not exist.]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:11:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3535 accepted

Results of Proposal 3535

22/27 votes: Quorum achieved
20/22 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Rig R. Mortis
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (AVPP)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
two-star
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
rufus                (SPAM)
Weishaupt
Eris                 (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Studge
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
SPAM Unity Vote
MetaMorph Unity Vote

    NO:
Ethelred             (AVPP)
Piz

    BAA!:
breadbox
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

    PENDING:
Altra the FireCat

> Proposal 3535 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 06:54 EDT
> G&amp;C spell of type Summon Malenkai
> /dev/joe (Joseph DeVincentis)
> 
> {{[ This proposal is dedicated to Malenkai, who said he'd rejoin Acka if we
> do this. ]}}
> 
> Add a new rule to the Games & Contests Rule Suite entitled Acka Role
> Playing, with the following text:
> 
> [This defines a generic super-structure for running Fantasy (or other)
> Role-Playing games as Acka Sub-games. Most of the details are left to the
> GM, though certain systems may become standard, or at least standard for a
> specific GM.]
> 
> 1) General Equipment
> Optionally, an Ackanomic IRC server.
> No standard equipment is required, but any other standard equipment
> appropriate for a specific game may be used. The Ackanomic Magic Dice may
> be used as a randomizing mechanism, but GMs may find it more convenient to
> roll their own dice.
> 
> 2) Number of Players
> At least 2 players are required. The maximum number of players is the
> number of players in Ackanomic.
> 
> 3) Number of referees
> At least one referee (also called the Game Master or GM) is required.
> Normally, there will be just the one referee, but additional players of
> Ackanomic may become referees with the GM's consent. If there are
> additional referees, at all times there shall be one head referee (who
> shall be referred to as the Game Master or GM); with mutual consent, this
> role may change during a game, but such change should be posted publicly.
> The maximum number of referees is the number of players in Ackanomic.
> Normally, referees should not also be players, but with the GM's consent,
> referees may play at any time they are not acting in the GM role.
> 
> 4) Starting the game
> The game begins when the GM posts publicly that it is beginning, and who
> the initial players are. No other public posts are typically necessary
> until a game ends, but see the 'Number of Referees' and 'Ending the Game'
> sections for exceptions.
> 
> 5) Joining and Leaving a Game in Progress
> Players may join games in progress at the GM's discretion. When a player
> leaves the game, the GM should make an effort to work his departure into
> the story line of the game (which may or may not involve killing the
> character). Players who have previously played and left may rejoin at the
> GM's discretion, and it is also at the GM's discretion whether the player
> returns in state he left the game, as a new character, or otherwise.
> 
> 6) Rules
> The rules of the game are left up to the discretion of the GM, and he is
> free to tell players as much or little of the rules as he wishes. The GM
> may draw from established gaming systems, combine systems, and/or make
> stuff up as he goes along, though having some reasonable amount of
> pre-established structure is recommended. The GM is encouraged to use a
> player's Ackan statistics at least in part in generating new characters,
> and to incorporate changes in a player's Ackan stats into his character's
> stats. The GM is, however, free to ignore the Ackan stats for any reason
> (including, but not limited to the Ackan stats not fitting the gaming
> system chosen). Any changes in a characters stats during a game do not
> cause changes in the player's Ackan stats. A GM may allow a player to begin
> with a character partially or completely in the state he concluded a
> previous game, but otherwise should attempt to give players a reasonably
> equal starting ground.
> 
> 7) Other information needed to play
> The GM is free to tell players as much or little about the particular game
> as he likes, but there is no hard-set framework the game must adhere to.
> The GM should, however, tell the players enough to make the game fun and
> interesting.
> 
> 8) Conditions for winning the game
> Normally, the game ends with no winner, but a player wins if and only if
> the GM posts that a player has won when he posts that the game has ended.
> 
> 9) Trophies
> If there is a winner, he receives a standard trophy.
> 
> 10) Ending the game
> It is recommended that the GM post a summary of extended FRP games
> periodically; after each gaming session if possible. The game ends when the
> GM posts that it has ended; he may name a winner at this time, but
> typically the game will end without a winner. If at any time the game has
> been in progress for 30 days or more, and the GM has not publicly posted an
> update on the status of the game in the last 30 days, the game is
> considered to have ended without a winner, and all the characters are
> assumed to have disappeared, never to be heard from again. Updates may
> simply consist of a URL of a game log from an IRC server, if this is
> available.

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3536 accepted

Results of Proposal 3536

22/27 votes: Quorum achieved
18/22 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Rig R. Mortis
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (AVPP)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
two-star
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Weishaupt
Eris                 (Klingon)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Studge
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Ethelred             (AVPP)
MetaMorph Unity Vote

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Piz

    BAA!:
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

    PENDING:
Altra the FireCat

> Proposal 3536 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 06:55 EDT
> One Flew Over The Cukoo's Nest
> 404 Not Found (Joel Ricker)
> 
> Replace the following "-delimited text in rule 910:
> 
> "Terrorizing pages (3 pages): These pages inspire indescribable terror in
> all who read them, causing a loss of 15 points."
> 
> with the following "-delimited text:
> 
> Terrorizing pages (3 pages): These pages inspire indescribable terror in
> all who read them, causing a loss of 15 points and 3 Sanity Points.

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:12:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3537 rejected

Results of Proposal 3537

22/27 votes: Quorum achieved
12/21 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Rig R. Mortis
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (AVPP)
two-star
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Eris                 (Klingon)
Attila the Pun       (AVPP)
Slakko               (SPAM)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Ethelred             (AVPP)

    NO:
Robin Hood           (AVPP)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Weishaupt
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Studge
Piz

    BAA!:
404 Not Found        (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy             (AVPP)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Memo

    VACATIONING:
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
Horny Protoceratops

    PENDING:
Altra the FireCat

> Proposal 3537 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 06:56 EDT
> One Set Up Leads To Another
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> Amend Rule 909, "Steel Flea", as follows:
> 
> Delete the text "Phoebe owns both herself and her matchbox". At the end of
> the next paragraph append the text "The player who has found Phoebe's
> matchbox temporarily owns Phoebe and her matchbox, but may not manipulate
> either except as described in this Rule. Whenever Phoebe's matchbox is
> missing, but not Somewhere Else, it is in a barrel of monkeys(a unique
> entity)."
> 
> Amend Rule 1209, "The Machine That Goes *ping*", as follows:
> 
> Insert as a third paragraph of Section I. the following text(delimited by
> MITE):
> 
> MITE
> It is also well-known that Ursula the Steel Flea, Phoebe's twin sister and
> a unique entity, lives deep inside the Machine That Goes *ping*. Unless
> otherwise specified by later sections of this Rule, Ursula is in a barrel
> of monkeys.
> MITE
> 
> Insert as a fourth paragraph of Section III. the following text (delimited
> by TICK):
> 
> TICK
> Upon the posting of the Machine's Truth, Ursula shall be considered to be
> in the possession of the Scholar of *ping*, until such time as that player
> ceases to be Scholar.
> TICK

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:38:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3563

Proposal 3563
Grey Unity
Wild Card (Jonathan David Amery)

 Add to the end of rule 1031 (Grey Council) the following
SUMMUTUSEFUL-delimited text.

SUMMUTUSEFUL
If all the members of the Grey Council vote YES on the same proposal then
one "Grey Counil Unity Vote" shall be voted by the Council itself YES on
the proposal, in a similar manner to a Political Party.  Only one such
vote is ever made regardless of the size of the Council.
SUMMUTUSEFUL

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:39:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3564

Proposal 3564
Some Permanance around here please...
Wild Card (Jonathan David Amery)

I was young and foolish then, I feel old and foolish now.

Create a rule with the lowest integer number greater that all others
within the Blueprints rule suite named "Shield of Permanence" with the
following FUBAR-delimited text.

FUBAR 

There exists a unique named tradeable entity that is a gadget named The
Shield of Permanence. 

If anything causes a gadget owned by the player who owns The Shield of
Permanence to be destroyed then the following happens:

1) The gadget that was destroyed is recreated within their possession. 

2) The Shield of Permanence shimmers briefly and is transfered to a
randomly determined player. 

{{If there doesn't exist an entity named The Shield of Permanence then
create The Shield of Permanence in the possession of a randomly determined
active, voting player.}}

FUBAR

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:40:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3565

Proposal 3565
Guerillas at the Ballot Box? No Way.
Slakko (Duncan Richer)

This is a Modest Proposal.

Amend Rule 320 by replacing the following CHE-delimited text:

CHE
All players have a rebeliousness characteristic which may either be "on"
or "off" (the default value is off). A player may freely change the value
of this characteristic by publicly stating that they are doing so, and
what they are changing it too. 
CHE

with the following GUEVARA-delimited text:

GUEVARA
All players have a rebeliousness characteristic which may either be "on"
or "off" (the default value is off). A player may freely change the value
of this characteristic by publicly stating that they are doing so, and
what they are changing it to, provided that they have not changed the
value of the characteristic of their own accord during the current 
calendar week.

Exactly those players whose rebeliousness characteristic are "on" are
Rebels. Rebels are ineligible to vote.
GUEVARA

[The once per calendar week thing gives this some effect.  If you were
intent on overthrowing your lawfully elected government (or lawfully
appointed, whatever) by revolution (not by the statute book - i.e.
proposal) why should you be accorded the rights of other citizens?
]

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:41:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3566

Proposal 3566
Tabulation Disaggregation
Slakko (Duncan Richer)

This is a Modest Proposal.

[Aim of this proposal - to eliminate the main link between Count Tabula
and the Tabulator - the appointment method, which is by now outdated.]

Rename Rule 408 to "Tabulator".

Amend Rule 408 to read as delimited by TABBY below:

TABBY
The Office of the Tabulator is a Functional Office. The Duties of the
Tabulator are: 

(a) to count votes on each proposal. 

(b) to maintain the voting records of each player on each proposal. 

(c) to report the acceptance or rejection of proposals, in the time order
in which their voting periods ended. 

(d) to be the Substitute for the Office of Count Tabula. 

The Tabulator need not perform duties (a),(b), or (c) on any proposal
which has been retracted, nullified, or deemed invalid in accordance with
the Rules. 
TABBY

Create a new Rule, numbered 408.1, named "Count Tabula", with the
following COUNTA-delimited text:

COUNTA
The Office of Count Tabula is a Functional Office. 
The Duties of Count Tabula are:

(a) to ask for, tabulate and report votes on Ackanomic matters other than
Proposals.  This includes, but is not limited to, Hearings (unless
otherwise specified) [see Rule 360], Impeachment Papers [Rule 404], and
all Elections for Office [Rule 402].  In the case of Hearings, such tasks
are only a Duty of Count Tabula when e is Hearing Harfer.

(b) to conduct any Nominations for Office that are not the
responsibility of any other Officer. 

Count Tabula is the Substitute for the Office of the Tabulator.
COUNTA

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:42:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3567

Proposal 3567
DoppelSlakko for real
JT (JT Traub)

Create a new rule with the smallest integer greater than 1200 and less
than 1300 which is valid to be a rule titled "The Illustrious
DoppelSlakko" and the text as delimited by CONFUSION
CONFUSION
There exists the office of DoppelSlakko with one seat.
The player who holds this seat is known as the DoppelSlakko.

The office of DoppelSlakko has no priveledges.

The office of DoppelSlakko has the following duties:
a) once per calendar month, the DoppelSlakko must submit a proposal which
   attempts to break the game in some fashion.   This proposal must
   contain the furniture  'Warning: Attempting to break the game'.
   When the proposal mentioned previously has it's voting period expire 
   all players will automatically vote NO on this proposal an infinitesimal
   amount of time before its voting period ends.  An infinitesimal amount
   of time before that, Tammany will vote YES on it.  This takes 
   precedence over any other rules regarding voting.   If the DoppelSlakko
   fails to submit such a proposal, they lose 25 points.

Any player may claim the office of DoppelSlakko by posting a proposal
with the furniture 'Warning: Attempting to break the game'.  If that
proposal is rejected, the former DoppelSlakko immediately steps down and
then the player who submitted the proposal fills the office. This is the
only way this office may be filled, and this takes precedence over any
rule other than this one regarding offices and who may fill them.

{{The office of DoppelSlakko is filled by K 2}}
CONFUSION

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:43:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3568

Proposal 3568
Fighting over the slaves
Ethelred (David Kenning)

This is a modest proposal

[Currently it is possible to change a player's thrall attribute by the normal
rule-defined methods regardless of whether or not their thrall attribute is
already set to the name of another player, but I think a Player's current
thrall value should influence your ability to change it]

1. Add the following THRALL-delimited text to the end of Rule 750/0:

THRALL
If Player [S] has a Thrall attribute the value of which is the name of a Player
[T], then Player [S] may be said to be "in thrall to" Player [T].
THRALL

[just to make "in thrall to" a rule-defined term (it isn't already is it?),
which also makes the wording of the other parts of this proposal easier]

2. Replace the second paragraph of Rule 755/1 (currently: "When a Proposal which
is part of a Potential Enthrallment is accepted, the Player mentioned in the
Potential Enthrallment has their Thrall Attribute set to the name of the author
of that Proposal.") with the following SLAVE-delimited text:

SLAVE
When a Proposal which is part of a Potential Enthrallment is accepted, the
Player mentioned in the Potential Enthrallment has their Thrall Attribute set
to the name of the author of that Proposal, provided at least one of the
following conditions is true:

i) the Player mentioned in the Potential Enthrallment is not already in Thrall
to any other Active Player, unless condition ii is true.

ii) [Player X] is in thrall to [Player Y] and [Player Y] is in thrall to
[Player Z] where [Player X] is the name of the Player indicated in the
Potential Enthrallment, [Player Z] is the name of the author of the proposal
indicated in the Potential Enthrallment, and [Player Y] is the name of another
Active Player.

iii) the Player mentioned in the Potential Enthrallment is already in thrall to
another Player, but the author of the proposal indicated in the Potential
Enthrallment has won a duel against that player during the current cycle.
SLAVE

[other conditions can be added later, but these are just some suggestions to
start with.]

3. Amend the third paragraph of Rule 755/1 (currently: "When a Proposal which
is part of a Potential Enthrallment is rejected, the author of that Proposal
has their Thrall Attribute set to the name of the Player mentioned in the
Potential Enthrallment.") to the following SERVANT-delimited text:

SERVANT
When a Proposal which is part of a Potential Enthrallment is rejected, the
author of that Proposal has their Thrall Attribute set to the name of the
Player mentioned in the Potential Enthrallment, unless e is already in thrall
to another Player.
SERVANT

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:44:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3569

Proposal 3569
Government Type: Plutocracy
Ethelred (David Kenning)

This is a modest proposal.

Create a new rule in the Governments Rule Suite with the following
MONEYMONEYMONEY-delimited text:

MONEYMONEYMONEY
When the current Government type is Plutocracy, only the wealthiest active
player (i.e. the active player with the largest positive number of Ackadollars)
may vote on proposals.
MONEYMONEYMONEY

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:45:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3570

Proposal 3570
Government Type: Insane Emperor
Ethelred (David Kenning)

This is a modest proposal.

Create a new rule in the Governments Rule Suite with the following
CALIGULA-delimited text:

CALIGULA 
When the current Government type is Insane Emperor, the OiCoRT shall select one
active voting player who shall be given the title Caligula. Only the player
with the title Caligula may vote on proposals, and e may vote as many times as
e wishes, in any way that e chooses (i.e. e may vote both yes and no, and do
either or both as many times as e wishes). Furthermore, that player may fire
any officer from eir position and appoint any Ackan entity to that office, even
if that entity would not normally be eligible for the office. While the
government type is Insane Emperor, this rule takes precedence over any rule
that would make the actions described in this rule illegal. When the government
type changes from Insane Emperor to another government type, the player who
held the title Caligula loses that title and is put in Gaol.
CALIGULA

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:46:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3571

Proposal 3571
Creating Conflicts
Ethelred (David Kenning)

This is a Modest Proposal.

[I can see no logical reason for the current system of deciding superiority
in rule conflicts -- I mean, if a proposal has been accepted, it is because
people agreed with the content of that proposal, and it's a bit tight if it
then turns out that the effects of the proposal are not as intended because of
some earlier proposal claiming superiority. Before anyone states the obvious
objection, I realise that this *might* lead to players deliberately putting
forward proposals containg elements contrary to existing rules, but (a) I don't
see this as a necessarily bad thing, and (b) if people did start deliberately
putting forward proposals with contrary statements, I would expect them not to
be accepted anyway]

Amend Rule 102/8 to read as per the following CONFLICT delimited text:

CONFLICT
If two or more rules other than this one conflict on a particular issue, and if
the rules other than this one (and not restricted to the conflicting rules)
specify a single, coherent, unambiguous method for resolving the conflict then
that method is applied to determine which rule or rules take precedence with
regard to that issue. Otherwise, wherever the rules conflict on a particular
issue, the rule which shall guide play with regard to that issue shall be
decided at random by the OiCoRT. Rule conflicts that are resolved in this way
shall not establish a basis for resolving future instances of conflict caused
by the same rules. In each case, the OiCoRT should resolve the conflict without
any weighting based on previous judgements.

If two statements within a single rule conflict with each other, and the rule
doesn't define a way to resolve the conflict, precedence shall be described by
the same means. 
CONFLICT

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:47:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3572

Proposal 3572
A change is as good as a rest
Ethelred (David Kenning)

Replace the first sentence of the third paragraph in Rule 320 (viz
"Governmental Rules should specify who is eligible to vote on proposals (if it
fails then all active voting players may vote), and may also specify any
deviations from the normal rules.") with the following GOVT-delimited text:

GOVT
Governmental Rules should specify who is eligible to vote on proposals (if it
fails then all active voting players may vote), and may also specify any
deviations from the normal rules and conditions under which that Government
Type may become active, other than those listed below. It may also specify
conditions other than those listed below under which a Revolution may start
while that Government type is Active.
GOVT

[I'm thinking here about things like military coups, plus ways I have in mind
to overthrow certain government types other than by revolution.]

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