Subject: acka-voting-digest V3 #99
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acka-voting-digest       Thursday, June 18 1998       Volume 03 : Number 099

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:56:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3203 accepted

Results of Proposal 3203

16/23 votes: Quorum achieved
10/14 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
saaremaa
IdiotBoy
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
else...if            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:
breadbox

    BAA!:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3203 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:37 EDT
> Where does 92.9 + 2.718i sort in Ackamath?
> saaremaa (Randy Hall)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> -----
> 
> Amend rule 211, "Invoking Judgement", to replace "higher-numbered" with
> "most recently distributed" both places it appears in the final paragraph.
> 
> {{[its not the math, but the scam bait that's the problem...]}}

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:57:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3204 rejected

Results of Proposal 3204

17/23 votes: Quorum achieved
7/18 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
saaremaa
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
breadbox
Slakko               (SPAM)
IdiotBoy
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3204 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:38 EDT
> Original Sin
> JT (JT Traub)
> 
> Dennis and Edna sinned.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:57:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3205 rejected

Results of Proposal 3205

17/23 votes: Quorum achieved
7/17 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
else...if            (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
saaremaa
Fortunato
breadbox
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
IdiotBoy

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3205 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:39 EDT
> Space Odyssey
> JT (JT Traub)
> 
> Any player who publically visits 10 moons or planets other than Acka shall
> achieve a Winning Condition. Each player may only achieve a Winning
> Condition this way once.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:58:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3206 accepted

Results of Proposal 3206

17/23 votes: Quorum achieved
11/18 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
else...if            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
IdiotBoy
Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
rufus                (SPAM)
saaremaa
breadbox
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3206 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:40 EDT
> Royal Frinks
> JT (JT Traub)
> 
> Any player who successfully frinks 5 Frinks which are defined as Royal
> shall be awarded a random Boon of the Ancients.
> 
> Right Handed Grapefruit juice is a Royal Frink.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:59:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3207 accepted

Results of Proposal 3207

15/23 votes: Quorum achieved
11/15 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
saaremaa
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
IdiotBoy
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
Wild Card            (SPAM)
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3207 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:41 EDT
> Random Things
> saaremaa (Randy Hall)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal. (This proposal amends exactly 2 rules.)
> Amend rule 230 to change its title to "Random Things", to prefix its only
> paragraph with "I. ", and then to add the following quoted text to the end
> of the rule:
> "II. An event that depends on a random determination for its full
> specification shall not occur until the random determination is publicly
> knowable."
> Amend rule 371, "Timing", to remove the second to last paragraph [which is
> the one being added to 230. It makes little sense in 371]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:59:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3208 accepted

Results of Proposal 3208

15/23 votes: Quorum achieved
10/14 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
saaremaa
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
IdiotBoy
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
Wild Card            (SPAM)
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3208 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:42 EDT
> Gizz Removal
> saaremaa (Randy Hall)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> Amend rule 406, "Promoter", to remove:
> 
> "
> The Promoter has three days to distribute each proposal in accordance with
> part (c) except during a Proposal Moratorium[see R 415].
> "
> 
> {{[proposal moratoriums are gone, three days is handled by 403 or 401]}}

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:00:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3209 accepted

Results of Proposal 3209

16/23 votes: Quorum achieved
11/14 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
saaremaa
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
IdiotBoy

    NO:
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3209 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:43 EDT
> Why Should I Have to Wait 'till Midnight?
> saaremaa (Randy Hall)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> Amend rule 710, "Criminal Justice", to replace:
> 
> "date between 1 and 30 days prior" with "date between 0 and 30 days prior".
> 
> {{[btw, I did wait 'till after midnight on CFCJ 166, despite what the
> header says as distributed ... ]}}

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:01:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3210 accepted

Results of Proposal 3210

16/23 votes: Quorum achieved
12/15 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
saaremaa
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
IdiotBoy
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3210 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:45 EDT
> Show Me the Treasure
> saaremaa (Randy Hall)
> 
> Amend rule 910, "The Ackanomicon", to replace:
> 
> "
> Long lost treasure (2 pages): These pages describe the locations of long
> lost treasure troves. The reader gains A$250.
> "
> 
> with:
> 
> "
> Long lost treasure (2 pages): These pages describe the locations of long
> lost treasure troves. The reader gains A$250 and an Otzma Card of Type Map
> Shard, provided no Otzma limits would be exceeded. This card will be
> destroyed within 3 days of receipt if not used.
> "

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:02:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3211 accepted

Results of Proposal 3211

16/23 votes: Quorum achieved
11/15 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:
saaremaa

    BAA!:
IdiotBoy

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3211 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:46 EDT
> And The ASS Played On
> 867-5309 (Eric Plumb)
> 
> [ Synopsis: Mundane Songs are now free, and the DeeJay is not required to
> track them. Esoteric Songs can be bought by those with the cash to do so or
> by using a Token, which one gains by successfully adding new Esoteric
> Songs. The current Songs are rather expensive, being specific in their
> effects. Hopefully new songs will soon be added which are cheaper and more
> fun. A vile pun on the ASS's acronym has been added to its Rule. ]
> 
> [ My apologies for the excessive length of this Proposal. ]
> 
> Amend Rule 950, "Ackanomic Sound System Rule Suite", in the following ways:
> 
> Remove the first paragraph (contained in square brackets). [ It was flavor
> text for the Proposal and is unnecessary now that there's a better link
> text to the Songs. ]
> 
> Replace the entire text of section II, "Description", with the following
> DESCRIPTION-delimited description:
> 
> DESCRIPTION
> Nobody knows for certain the location of the ASS, for its music is audible
> at exactly the same unobtrusive volume throughout the whole of Ackanomic.
> It is said that those who wish not to hear the music of the ASS may place
> one or more of their heads inside it. Unfortunately, doing so will not
> exclude them from the music's effects.
> 
> The control panel for the ASS is located in the Ackanomic Library. Any
> entity which is in the Library may play a Mundane Song on the ASS as a
> public action simply by stating the name of the song and the artist or
> artists who perform the version of the song they wish to hear. If the ASS
> is not currently playing an Esoteric song, the requested Mundane song will
> begin playing after a pause of an infinitesimal amount of time to switch
> tracks.
> 
> Any entity which is in the Library may play any Esoteric Song as a public
> action. To do so, that entity must state the name of the Song it wishes to
> play and place either an amount of A$ equal to the Song's Cost or a single
> Token into the banna-shaped slot on the ASS's control panel. This action
> fails if the entity does not own sufficient A$, or has no Tokens. If the
> action was successful, the Esoteric Song requested immediately begins
> playing as described below, with full effects, unless there is already an
> Esoteric Song playing on the ASS. When this happens, any A$ placed into the
> slot is transferred to the Treasury, and any Tokens placed into the slot
> are destroyed.
> DESCRIPTION
> 
> Retitle section II, "Description", to "Description and Usage".
> 
> Amend section III, "Office of DeeJay", to read in full as delimited below
> by I CAN'T THINK OF A DELIMITER:
> 
> I CAN'T THINK OF A DELIMITER
> The Office of DeeJay is an Optional, Political Office. If this Office is
> not filled, or if the player holding this Office is on Vacation or On Ice,
> no Esoteric Songs will be played on the ASS.
> 
> The Duties of the DeeJay are:
> a) To monitor the game state and determine when Esoteric Songs begin and
> cease playing, and to post a public message naming the Song in question and
> its effects, if any, whenever either happens.
> b) To maintain a record of whether an Esoteric Song is playing on the ASS,
> and if so, which Song and its effects. The preferred medium for this Duty
> is HTML.
> c) To publically announce when a player has been awarded a Token as
> described below, in section IV.
> 
> The Priveleges of the DeeJay are:
> d) To declare a Moment of Silence lasting no more than one Acka week in
> which no Songs may be played on the ASS. This Privilege may not be
> exercised if it has been exercised within the past forty days, or if an
> Esoteric Song is currently playing on the ASS.
> 
> On the first day of any calendar month whose ordinal number is evenly
> divisible by three, the player holding the Office of DeeJay shall step down
> from said Office as described in Rule 401 section vii.
> I CAN'T THINK OF A DELIMITER
> 
> Retitle section IV to "Creating And Playing Esoteric Songs."
> [ Eliminate ampersands -- help the Harfers. ]
> 
> Append immediately after the first paragraph of section IV the text "Any
> player who submits a Proposal which successfully adds one or more Esoteric
> Songs to this Rule Suite shall gain one Token upon the acceptance of such a
> Proposal. This Token shall be created in eir possession upon the
> announcement of this fact by the DeeJay. Tokens are tradeable Entities. The
> act of placing a Token into the banna-shaped slot of the ASS' control panel
> destroys that Token. {{ The submitter of this Proposal gains 2 Tokens. The
> player formerly known as The Gingham Wearer gains 1 Token.
> [ For services already rendered, as it were. ] }}"
> 
> In section IV, replace "these two attributes" with "these three
> attributes".
> 
> Renumber (or reletter) subsection f), "Explanation", to g).
> 
> Renumber (or reletter) subsection e), "Duration", to f).
> 
> Insert immediately before section IV, subsection f) ("Duration"), the text
> "e) Cost: The amount of A$ which must be placed in the banna-shaped slot in
> the ASS' control panel to play this Song. If the Cost is not specified, it
> defaults to Infinite; i.e., the Song cannot be purchased with A$ as
> described above."
> 
> In section IV, replace "is no longer true" with "is not true".
> [ Might be CSRable, but why put it off? ]
> 
> Delete the text ", and 'The Thrill is Gone' by B. B. King will begin
> playing." from section IV. [ It would actually have interfered with the
> interruption of an Esoteric Song with another Esoteric Song. Plus I got rid
> of that double period. ]
> 
> In Rule 950.1, "ASS Song: Chess Piece Face", insert the text "Cost: A$150"
> before the text "Effect: While this". In the same Rule, append after the
> text "Players are encouraged to describe the color, shape, board move, and
> game effects of their chess pieces while this song is playing" the text ",
> and a player shall gain 6 points the first time e publically describes all
> four of the above" [ Apparently people need incentive. ]
> 
> [ "No-one But You" is left with an infinite cost; it honors our Elders
> only. ]
> 
> In Rule 950.3, "ASS Song: Werewolves of London", insert immediately before
> the text "Effect: When this" the text "Cost: A$199". In the same Rule,
> append after the text "Until the moon or moons that triggered this song are
> no longer full" the text ", or six Acka days, whichever comes first".
> [ In the unlikely event that someone purchases this song. ]
> 
> Create a Rule numbered 1152, entitled "Another Former Emperor of Ackanomic"
> with the text "Hubert once ruled Ackanomic. The player who is legally able
> to assume the name 'Hubert' is a Former Emperor of Ackanomic."
> 
> Repeal the Rule entitled "Another Former Emperor of Ackanomic".
> [ Raise your hand if you were paying attention this far down. ]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:03:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3212 accepted

Results of Proposal 3212

16/23 votes: Quorum achieved
12/16 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
saaremaa
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
IdiotBoy
Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
rufus                (SPAM)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
else...if            (Klingon)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3212 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:48 EDT
> Sorry, breadbox
> 867-5309 (Eric Plumb)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> Append to the end of Rule 777, "The Seven Deadly Sins Rule Suite", the text
> "[ The Seven Deadly Sins ]".
> 
> [ It could use a link to the Sins once they're created. ]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:04:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3213 accepted

Results of Proposal 3213

16/23 votes: Quorum achieved
10/15 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
saaremaa
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
IdiotBoy
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
rufus                (SPAM)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3213 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:49 EDT
> Foolish Criminals
> J. M. Bear (Frank Schmidt)
> 
> I was young and foolish then, I feel old and foolish now.
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> Repeal rule 705 (Caped Crusader).
> Repeal rule 947 (The Chartreuse Cape)

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:04:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3214 accepted

Results of Proposal 3214

16/23 votes: Quorum achieved
12/16 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Dennis and Edna      (Vulcan)
else...if            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
867-5309             (Boomerangs)
IdiotBoy
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
saaremaa

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Wild Card            (SPAM)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
The Mu-Cow Hunter

    VACATIONING:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    PENDING:
two-star
Horny Protoceratops
Zaknafein Dourden

> Proposal 3214 - Tue 09 Jun 1998 16:50 EDT
> Phoebe and Her Seekers
> Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> [Currently the rules allow the OiCoRT to give Phoebe a leave of absence if
> the last three people to find her have not posted her wisdom. What if
> someone wants to find Phoebe, but hasn't been selected? Is it fair that
> Phoebe should leave without imparting her wisdom?]
> 
> Amend Rule 939 by replacing the following OLDPHOEB-delimited text:
> 
> OLDPHOEB
> If Phoebe's matchbox is currently missing, and it is also the case that the
> most recent three (or more) players who found Phoebe's matchbox have all
> failed to post her wisdom, then Phoebe may decide not to be found by
> another player, and instead take a Leave Of Absence from the
> wisdom-dispensing business. The Officer in Charge of Random Things shall
> determine whether or not this happens, using whatever method e chooses. If
> e determines that Phoebe has decided to take a Leave Of Absence, then e
> must announce this fact publicly. (E is also encouraged, but not required,
> to post Phoebe's goodbye message at this time.) Upon doing so, Phoebe and
> Phoebe's matchbox shall immediately go Somewhere Else, and Phoebe's
> matchbox shall no longer be missing. Phoebe and her matchbox will remain
> Somewhere Else for a minimum of 30 days (and quite possibly much longer,
> perhaps even forever).
> 
> If it is ever the case that Phoebe has been on a Leave Of Absence for 30
> days or more, then Phoebe may choose at any time to end her Leave of
> Absence. The Officer in Charge of Random Things shall determine whether or
> not this happens, again using whatever method e chooses. If e determines
> that Phoebe has chosen to end her Leave of Absence, then e must announce
> this fact publicly. Upon doing so, Phoebe and Phoebe's matchbox will no
> longer be Somewhere Else, and Phoebe's matchbox shall immediately be
> missing. [And thus the Officer in Charge of Random Things should then
> determine which player finds Phoebe next....]
> OLDPHOEB
> 
> with the following NEWPHOEB delimited text:
> 
> NEWPHOEB
> If Phoebe's matchbox is currently missing, and the three most recent
> players who found Phoebe's matchbox have all failed to post her wisdom,
> then Phoebe shall start Moping, provided she is not already Moping.
> Whenever Phoebe is Moping, a player may send a public message containing
> text of the form "There's no need to mope Phoebe. Your wisdom is wanted."
> Three days after Phoebe starts Moping, if at least one player has sent such
> a message in the last three days, one such player shall be selected at
> random to find Phoebe's Matchbox, and Phoebe will stop Moping. If Phoebe is
> Moping for 3 days and no player sends a message as described above, Phoebe
> shall go on a Leave of Absence, and her Matchbox will go Somewhere Else.
> 
> If Phoebe is on a Leave Of Absence which has lasted at least 30 days, then
> Phoebe may end her Leave of Absence. The Officer in Charge of Random Things
> shall determine whether or not this happens, using whatever method e
> chooses. If e determines that Phoebe has chosen to end her Leave of
> Absence, then e must announce this fact publicly. Upon doing so, Phoebe and
> Phoebe's matchbox will no longer be Somewhere Else, and Phoebe's matchbox
> shall immediately be missing. [And thus the Officer in Charge of Random
> Things should then determine which player finds Phoebe next....]
> NEWPHOEB
> 
> [This way, Phoebe only goes on a Leave of Absence when no-one is interested
> in her wisdom anymore.]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:18:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3232

Proposal 3232
Here is How *I* Would Like to See the BAA! Vote Used
breadbox (Brian Raiter)

This is a Modest Proposal.

[ I ]

Amend Rule 207 ("Scoring When A Proposal's Voting Results are
Reported") as follows:

First, remove the two paragraphs in section III which currently read:

    A player who votes BAA! on a proposal shall receive (n+2-p)
    points, where n is the number of points that could be earned by
    anti-voting on that proposal, and p is the total number of players
    who voted BAA! on that proposal.

    However, if exactly one player votes PRESENT on a proposal, all
    points (positive or negative) which would have been given to
    players who voted BAA! as a result of the preceding paragraph are
    instead given to the player who voted PRESENT, who is then known
    as the Shepherd. The players who voted BAA! do not have their
    score changed as a result of their votes in such a case.

Second, amend the sentence in section VII which currently reads:

    A proposal is Boring if and only if at least half of the votes
    cast on the proposal were Present or Baa! votes.

by removing the two words "Present or".

[ II ]

Amend Rule 106 ("Voting on Proposals") as follows:

First, replace the sentence which reads:

    Voting Players may vote either YES, NO, BAA! or PRESENT on each
    proposal, by sending their vote to the Tabulator.

with the following sentence:

    Voting Players may vote either YES, NO or BAA! on each proposal,
    by sending their vote to the Tabulator.

Second, append the following paragraph to the end of the rule:

    If a Voting Player has voted PRESENT in accordance with the rules
    (at the time the vote was cast), such a vote is considered to be
    equivalent to a BAA! vote. This paragraph will be deleted exactly
    seven days after it was added to this rule.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:20:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3233

Proposal 3233
Hacker Crackdown
saaremaa (Randy Hall)

This is a Modest proposal.

{{[gist: expand the scope of the chartreuse goose from PWCFJs
to all winning CFJs]}}

- -----

Amend rule 600, "Winning Conditions", to add this text as a new
paragraph at end of the rule:

"
Only Cycle-Win CFJs and Paradox Win CFJs are Winning Condition CFJs.
"

- -----

Amend rule 620, "Chartreuse Goose" to replace all instances of
"Paradox Win CFJ" with "Winning Condition CFJ".

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:21:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3234

Proposal 3234
History Never Repeats
saaremaa (Randy Hall)

This is a Modest proposal.

{{[The Vulcan Coup demonstrated what a minority who had the power to
change the rules could do.  Lets provide a general solution for the
same problem that exists in rule 777.  No fair loophole surfing a
loophole discovered by someone else ;-)]}}

- -----

Amend rule 360, "Hearings", to add the following texts as
two new paragraphs directly before the second to last paragraph:

"
A Hearing is Serious if and only if there exists one or more
verdicts for that particular Hearing that would lead to a 
modification of the ruleset.  Attempts by entities other than
voting players to respond in Serious Hearings automatically fail,
and if such attempting entity is a mechanical Gadget, it breaks.

If exactly one of the verdicts of a Serious Hearing would lead
to a modification of the ruleset, that verdict requires at least
the same percentage of responses cast in its favor as the percentage
of YES votes needed to accept a proposal as defined in rule 106.
In this case, if this particular response received less than that
percentage, but received the most responses, the response that 
received the second most responses is the verdict of the Hearing.
"

- -----

Amend rule 362, "Crisis Resolution" to remove the final paragraph.

[This is the one about the 60% business, taken care of by the above]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:22:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3235

Proposal 3235
The Year I Went To Camp
Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)

This is a Modest proposal.

Amend Rule 1250.18, "Ye Olde Rusty Lantern", as follows:

In the third paragraph of the section entitled "Plays", replace the text
"or a card was specified" with "the play was attempted more than three
days after the beginning of the Bard's turn; or a card was specified".

{{[ This will allow the Barkeep to reject late plays. ]}}

{{ Reduce Alfvaen's score by 2 points, and increase Koxvolio's score by
2 points. }}

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:23:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3236

Proposal 3236
Honour Characteristic
JT (JT Traub)

{{[This basically brings Honour into line as a characteristic, which it
seems like it should be, and cleans up the wording since characteristics
already had some of the properties I was assigning to Honour]}}
Amend rule 550 to read as follows delimited by CHARACTER
CHARACTER
[Honour System Rule Suite]
Each player and undead have an Honour Characteristic with a Default
Value of 0 and a range of -infinity to +infinity.

The Honour Characteristic of a player or undead may be referred to as
their Honour.

The Honour Characteristic is always an integer.

The rules in this rules suite take precedence over any other rules which
deal with when Honour is gained or lost.

It is a duty of the Herald to track the Honour of each player or undead, and
make that information publically available to any player upon request.

The Herald is the Custodian of the Honour System Rule Suite.
CHARACTER

If proposals 3216 and 3217 passed, amend rule 550, "Honour System Rule Suite"
to remove the strings "and undead" and "or undead's" and "or undead" and
"or Undead" where they appear. {{[This brings it back in line with
Saaremaa's changes]}}

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:24:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3237

Proposal 3237
more (dis)honourable acts
JT (JT Traub)

Amend rule 550.1 (Honourable Acts) to add the following ACT delimited text
to the list of repeatably honourable acts.
ACT
1 honour : Winning a Cycle
ACT

Amend rule 550.2 (Dishonourable Acts) to add the following ACT delimited
text to the list of repeatably dishonourable acts
ACT
1 honour : Commiting a Sin
1 honour : Bribing players (not Tammany) on a proposal.
ACT

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:25:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3238

Proposal 3238
Removing useless wordage
JT (JT Traub)

This is a modest proposal.
Amend rule 854 (Ackanomic Institute of Genetic Replication) to remove the
following extraneous text which is delimited by EXTRAEXTRA.
EXTRAEXTRA
Other mutations may be developed in the future, and if they are, they
should be added to this rule.
EXTRAEXTRA

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:31:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3239

Proposal 3239
One Re-Harfing Is Enough, Thank You Very Much
Slakko (Duncan Richer)

[As things stand, I'm still not sure whether Mr. Tambourine Man's message
through Alfvaen was legitimate, or would be upheld as such on CFJ.
However, if it is determined that this is not the case, then we have had a
period of two weeks during which there has been no Clerk of the Courts, no
Ambassador, and no Count Tabula doing any work (Mr. Tambourine Man having
continued to fill the roles of these offices).  So, to fix the situation,
a retroactive bit of legislation may well be necessary.  This is a
precautionary proposal, designed to get people thinking about what should
be done, but in a form such that it should work if accepted.]

Create a new Rule, numbered 98, with the following RETRO-delimited text:

RETRO
{{Mr. Tambourine Man went on vacation, expected duration 30 days, on
Saturday, 06 Jun 1998, at 00:46:50 Acka time.  If the player whose name 
has in the past been Mr. Tambourine Man has, since the date specified in
the previous sentence, sent a public message removing emself from
vacation, then eir player state from the time of that message onwards has
been Active, otherwise eir player state has been Vacationing for the
period since the time stated in the first paragraph of this rule.

All game actions since the date mentioned in the first sentence of this
proposal have been attempted under the state of affairs where Mr.
Tambourine Man's player state is as described in the preceding paragraph
of this Rule.
  
This Rule takes precedence over Rule 103 where there is a conflict.}}
RETRO

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