Subject: acka-voting-digest V3 #86
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acka-voting-digest        Friday, May 29 1998        Volume 03 : Number 086

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:36:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3105 accepted

Results of Proposal 3105

18/26 votes: Quorum achieved
10/14 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
else...if            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Fortunato
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Slakko               (SPAM)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
saaremaa

    BAA!:
Attila the Pun
Ayla

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3105 - Thu 21 May 1998 00:20 EDT
> A tad too big for a CSR I think
> The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> Modify the rule created by proposal 3048 (Feuds) by replacing:
> 
> "a. The Similarity between the Organizations is less than 50 "
> 
> with:
> 
> a. The H Similarity between the Organizations is less than 50"

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:37:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3106 rejected

Results of Proposal 3106

18/26 votes: Quorum achieved
11/19 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Attila the Pun
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Slakko               (SPAM)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Klingon Unity Vote

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
saaremaa
Fortunato
Ayla
Hubert               (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3106 - Thu 21 May 1998 00:21 EDT
> Let me Out!!!!
> The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
> 
> This is as modest proposal.
> 
> Modify rule 256 (Leaving the Game) by appending the following text to the
> end:
> 
> "A player may leave the game either as a public action or by mailing the
> registrar, or by responding to a query from the speaker as in rule 257
> stating eir wish to be removed."

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:38:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3107 rejected

Results of Proposal 3107

18/26 votes: Quorum achieved
10/17 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)

    NO:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
saaremaa
Slakko               (SPAM)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3107 - Thu 21 May 1998 00:22 EDT
> By the Holy Claws of Klortho the Magnificent
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> Throughout the Ruleset, replace every occurrence of the word
> "Ackadollar"(in any state of capitalization, especially including
> "AckaDollar")with "Quatloo", and every occurrence of "A$" with "Qo".

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:39:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3108 accepted

Results of Proposal 3108

18/26 votes: Quorum achieved
15/19 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Attila the Pun
saaremaa
Fortunato
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Klingon Unity Vote

    NO:
JT                   (Boomerangs)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3108 - Thu 21 May 1998 00:23 EDT
> If Leaving Me Is Easy
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> Amend Rule 257, "No Dead Players Allowed", by appending to the first
> paragraph the following text(delimited by RAINBOW):
> 
> RAINBOW
> If this response indicates that e wishes to leave the game, then e may be
> removed from the game by the Speaker forwarding eir email response to the
> public forum.
> RAINBOW

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:39:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3109 accepted

Results of Proposal 3109

18/26 votes: Quorum achieved
14/15 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Attila the Pun
saaremaa
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
Hubert               (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Koxvolio             (Harf)

    BAA!:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3109 - Thu 21 May 1998 00:24 EDT
> I hope the Scorekeeper has been paying attention
> saaremaa (Randy Hall)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Amend Rule 1250.21, "Abstract Crescent" as follows:
> 
> I. Replace
> 
> "
> b. This. Game needs no General Equipment
> "
> 
> with:
> 
> "
> b. General Equipment: Gamepoints as needed.
> "
> 
> ---
> 
> II. Append the following sentence to the end of the text of section d:
> 
> "
> All players start with a score of 0 Gamepoints.
> "
> 
> ---
> 
> III. In the paragraph that constitutes the body of section 4, and in the
> first paragraph that constitutes the body of section 5, replace all
> instances of the word "points" with "Gamepoints".
> 
> ---
> 
> IV. Append the following text to the end of the rule:
> 
> "
> {{
> All Abstract Crecent games in progress are changed to follow the modified
> rule.
> 
> For all Abstract Crecent games in progress, all points received or lost as
> a result of this rule for the particular instance of the game in progress
> are converted to Gamepoints scoped to that particular instance of the game
> in progress and to the appropriate player.
> }}
> "

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:40:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3110 accepted

Results of Proposal 3110

15/26 votes: Quorum achieved
12/14 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Attila the Pun
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Fortunato
Ayla
Slakko               (SPAM)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
else...if            (Klingon)
saaremaa

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3110 - Thu 21 May 1998 19:15 EDT
> These Aren't The Droids You're Looking For
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> {{[ Just trying to keep rules in the appropriate centuries. In other words,
> I disagree with the placements others have made. :-) ]}}
> 
> {{[ Locations are in the 800's. ]}}
> 
> Renumber Rule 1130, "The Ackanomic Printing Guild", to 856.
> 
> {{[ Miscellaneous entities are in the 900's. ]}}
> 
> Renumber Rule 1140, "The Chocolate Frog", to 927.
> 
> Renumber Rule 1389, "Quarantine", to 940.
> 
> {{[ I've been guilty of putting "miscellaneous" into the 1300's myself, but
> I recall it being sort of "science and religion". The 1100's are more
> miscellaneous to me. ]}}
> 
> Renumber Rule 1302, "Happiness", to 1131.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:40:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3111 accepted

Results of Proposal 3111

15/26 votes: Quorum achieved
9/11 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Attila the Pun
saaremaa
Fortunato
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)

    NO:
rufus                (SPAM)
Slakko               (SPAM)

    PRESENT:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    BAA!:
Koxvolio             (Harf)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3111 - Thu 21 May 1998 19:16 EDT
> Games on IRC
> saaremaa (Randy Hall)
> 
> [I would implement games on IRC on a per game basis, and would do it
> basically as follows. I do not think most games should be played on IRC,
> but some should be and I know that I do not have the patience to play
> spades via e-mail :-). IAC, the decision as to which games are available
> for IRC play can be left up to the voters later. This will also allow
> things like a game of chess as a duel, which again I prolly do not have the
> patience to do over e-mail, and allowing games in principle over IRC is a
> different issue than allowing any of our games over IRC.]
> 
> ---
> 
> Amend rule 1250.1, "Games & Contests" to add the following text to the end
> of the rule:
> 
> "
> XIV. Games on IRC
> 
> A particular IRC server is a valid forum for playing Games and Contests
> provided all of the following are true with respect to the server, the
> game, and its participants, as appropriate:
> 
> a. The game lists in its General Equipment section: 'Optionally, an
> Ackanomic IRC server', or words to that effect.
> 
> b. The following information is announced at least 24 hours prior to the
> start of the game in the main forum: The URL of the particular server that
> the game will be played on, and the start time of the game.
> 
> c. The specified server is defined as General Equipment [in rule 1250.3].
> 
> d. All players and referees (participants) consent to participate in the
> game on the specified server. The game or contest does not require, in
> general, non-participant Acka players to be played normally. [e.g. Limerick
> Contest].
> 
> e. At least one referee, (or one player in the absence of a referee), has
> client software capable of logging sessions on the specified server, and
> that person volunteer to log the particular game in its entirety. {{[sorry
> for the obtuse wording, but things like www.zone.com could be considered
> IRC servers (especially for spades), but logging is not possible, (forget
> the fact that it is controlled by the evil empire...)]}}
> 
> The results of a game on IRC are considered publicly knowable when the
> volunteer per subsection e posts the entire log file via e-mail to the
> customary Games list, (or posts the URL of the log file via e-mail to the
> customary Games list, in the case of large log files).
> "
> 
> ---
> 
> Amend rule 1250.3, "General Equipment", to add the following text to the
> end of the rule:
> 
> "
> VI. Ackanomic IRC servers:
> "
> 
> {{[see later why no actual servers are listed in this proposal.]}}
> 
> ---
> 
> Amend the Postal Code to add the following text to the end of the paragraph
> that begins with "acka-games@":
> 
> "
> IRC servers are legal fora in lieu of acka-games@ provided the server in
> question is specified, and used as described in the rules.
> "
> 
> ---
> 
> {{[At this point I would add specific servers to section VI of rule 1250.3,
> and amend a few games to be playable on IRC. These are separate issues,
> however, and should be accepted separately, since I would not propose
> adding someone else's IRC server to the rules, or risk the proposal failing
> because people don't want spades to be played on IRC.
> 
> If you have an IRC server, adding it to section VI as a G&C submission with
> a little {{magic}} (as opposed to the default of adding it with a new roman
> numeral section) should not be too hard, if you want]}}

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:41:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3112 accepted

Results of Proposal 3112

15/26 votes: Quorum achieved
10/13 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Attila the Pun
Slakko               (SPAM)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
saaremaa
Fortunato

    PRESENT:
Ayla

    BAA!:
Koxvolio             (Harf)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3112 - Thu 21 May 1998 19:17 EDT
> The Leaders in Creative Mayhem
> Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> Create a new Rule, a member of the Otzma Card Rule Suite, numbered 1240.X,
> where X is the smallest integer greater than all Y such that 1240.Y is
> already a Rule in the Otzma Card Rule Suite, titled "Otzma Card of Type
> ACME InstaGadget", with the following MEEPMEEP! delimited text:
> 
> MEEPMEEP!
> This rule defines an Otzma Card type called ACME InstaGadget. The
> F-designation of ACME InstaGadget Otzma Cards is Rare. There may be no more
> than 5 ACME InstaGadget cards in existence at any one time.
> 
> A player with an ACME InstaGadget card may play it in the public forum,
> naming a type of Gadget whose Blueprint is not Useless, and paying either
> (a) the last price paid at Public Auction for a Gadget of that Type, if
> such a value is defined, or
> (b) A$500.
> The amount paid goes to the Treasury.
> A Gadget of that type will be created in the possession of the player who
> played the Otzma Card.
> [Note: This Card has no Counteraction, so the Gadget is created 3 days
> after the Otzma Card is played.]
> MEEPMEEP!

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:42:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3113 accepted

Results of Proposal 3113

15/26 votes: Quorum achieved
12/13 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Attila the Pun
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
saaremaa

    PRESENT:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Ayla

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3113 - Thu 21 May 1998 19:18 EDT
> Do You Glimp At Me?
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> {{ Destroy any Benefyts which were created after the submission of this
> Proposal, except by the method described in Rule 1044. [Just to be safe] }}
> 
> Amend Rule 1044, "Swingpoints", as follows:
> 
> Append to section 3.d.
> 
> {{[
> d. A Player may, as a public action, convert ten of eir own Swingpoints
> into a Benefyt.
> ]}}
> 
> the text "Benefyts are tradeable entities."
> 
> {{[ Hopefully Benefyts are sufficiently "entityish" that Rule 500 will
> still apply to them, but I want to make them Tradeable so I can give mine
> to J. M. Bear, who is more likely to use them than I. ]}}

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:42:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3114 rejected

Results of Proposal 3114

16/26 votes: Quorum achieved
5/16 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Ayla

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Attila the Pun
Koxvolio             (Harf)
saaremaa
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
breadbox
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3114 - Thu 21 May 1998 19:19 EDT
> Two Blue Einsteins
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> Create a new Rule, numbered 1144, entitled "Height and Justice", with text
> as follows(delimited by BAUER):
> 
> BAUER
> The Height of an individual is considered to be one meter for every A$ e
> possesses.
> 
> To be selected as Judge for a CFJ, one must be able to remain in the
> courtroom(i.e. one must not be required by any other Rule to leave it).
> 
> {{ If Proposal 3107, "By The Holy Claws of Klorto The Magnificent", passed,
> replace "A$" above with "Qo". }}
> BAUER

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:43:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3115 rejected

Results of Proposal 3115

16/26 votes: Quorum achieved
8/15 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
rufus                (SPAM)
Attila the Pun
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
saaremaa
Fortunato
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Slakko               (SPAM)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3115 - Thu 21 May 1998 19:20 EDT
> Minor rules suite change
> JT (JT Traub)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> Amend Rule 311 (Rule Suites) as follows. Append the following REMOVAL
> delimited paragraph as the final paragraph of the rule.
> REMOVAL
> If the Head of a Rule Suite is repealed, all rules in that Rule Suite are
> also repealed.
> REMOVAL
> {{[Just looking through it this morning, and noticed that if the Head of a
> Rules Suite were to be repealed, it was undefined what happened to the
> rules in that suite. This is probably the cleanest situation.]}}

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