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acka-voting-digest       Thursday, May 28 1998       Volume 03 : Number 084

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:50:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3076 accepted

Results of Proposal 3076

21/26 votes: Quorum achieved
14/19 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
else...if            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato                               [Fortunato is no longer pending]
Slakko               (SPAM)
Ayla
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
IdiotBoy
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
rufus                (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3076 - Mon 18 May 1998 09:46 EDT
> Elephant's Graveyard
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> {{[ One thing that's bothered me for a long time is that if you vote for
> your Proposal, and it doesn't pass, then you lose the same number of points
> whether it's a normal Proposal or modest. Not that I want to get rid of
> anti-voting or anything... ]}}
> 
> Amend Rule 207, "Scoring When A Proposal's Voting Results are Reported", by
> replacing, in Section III, "Scoring on Proposals", the sentence
> 
> "If a Modest proposal is rejected, but meets quorum, the player who
> proposed it loses 5 points, and every player who voted YES on it receives 1
> point."
> 
> with the sentence
> 
> "If a Modest proposal is rejected, but meets quorum, the player who
> proposed it loses 4 points, and every player who voted YES on it receives 1
> point."

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:52:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3077 rejected

Results of Proposal 3077

22/26 votes: Quorum achieved
10/22 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Attila the Pun
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote

    NO:
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)

    PRESENT:
Ayla

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
rufus                (SPAM)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3077 - Mon 18 May 1998 09:47 EDT
> I bite my tongue at you sir!
> JT (JT Traub)
> 
> Create rule 1160.X where X is the lowest positive legal integer for a new
> rule with the following HONOR delimited text
> 
> HONOR
> Each player in Ackanomic has a certain amount of Honor.
> The amount of Honor each player has is tracked by the Herald.
> Honor may only be gained or lost as described by the rules.
> Each player begins the game with 1 Honor.
> 
> The following ways exist gain or lose honor:
> a) Whenever a player receives a Blue Cross, a Silver Stripe, a Gold Stripe,
> or a Ruby Slipper they gain 1 honor.
> b) Gaining the first Blue Cross Bonus or the first Bronze Torch, gains a
> player 2 Honor. [These items can be gained multiple times. I want to
> restrict the honor gain to the first time]
> c) Whenever a player is convicted of committing a crime, impeached, burnt
> as a heretic, or tarred and feathered, they lose 1 Honor.
> d) When a player wins a duel they gain 1 Honor.
> e) When a player loses a duel they lose 1 Honor.
> f) A player may exchange 6 swing points for 1 Honor.
> g) A player gains 1 honor for being inducted as an Elder.
> Other rules may define other methods by which honor is gained or lost.
> 
> When a player rejoins the game, if they have an Honor score already, that
> is their honor score, otherwise they gain an honor score of 1 honor, plus 2
> honor for each of a Blue Cross Bonus or Bronze Torch, plus 1 honor for each
> Blue Cross, or Silver Stripe, plus 3 honor for each Gold Stripe or Ruby
> Slipper.
> 
> {{ All existing players are given one Honor. }}
> {{ All existing players gain 2 honor for each Bronze Torch or Blue Cross
> Bonus }}
> {{ All existing players gain 1 honor for each Blue Cross, or Silver Stripe
> }}
> {{ All existing players gain 3 honor for each Gold Stripe or Ruby Slipper
> }}

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:54:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3078 accepted

Results of Proposal 3078

21/26 votes: Quorum achieved
15/20 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
Ayla
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Klingon Unity Vote

    NO:
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:
breadbox

    BAA!:
ThinMan              (Vulcan)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
rufus                (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3078 - Mon 18 May 1998 09:48 EDT
> Words Don't Mean A Thing
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> {{[ Before Vynd's recent Proposal, there was at least some possibility of a
> check on name changing, if the Registrar refused to ack. I think we can
> have it both ways. And I'm beginning to regret having allowed H*bert to
> adopt eir current name...player names that only differ by one characters
> lead to lots of mistakes. ]}}
> 
> Amend Rule 251, "Player Names", as follows:
> 
> Replace the last paragraph
> 
> {{[
> A player may change his Ackanomic name, so long as the new name complies
> with all applicable rules. The Registrar shall record and acknowledge each
> legal name change; a legal name change takes effect at the time of the
> Registrar's acknowledgement, at which time the player in question shall pay
> the standard Harfer Fee. If three days have passed, and the Registrar has
> yet to acknowledge a players attempt to change his name, and the new name
> complies with all applicable rules, then the name change takes effect. The
> Registrar is still required to record and announce that the change
> occurred. If a player attempts to change his name to something not in
> compliance with the rules, that attempt fails. Public notification of this
> failure by the Registrar is encouraged but not required. When a player
> changes their Ackanomic name, all Ackanomic business will be changed to
> follow their new name.
> ]}}
> 
> with the following text(delimited by NOWHERE):
> 
> {{[ A bit of rearrangement and sub-paragraphing might help too, I think.
> ]}}
> 
> NOWHERE
> A player may change eir Ackanomic name, so long as the new name complies
> with all applicable rules. If a player attempts to change eir name to
> something not in compliance with the Rules, that attempt fails. In
> addition, if the name change has not yet been accepted as described in the
> following paragraph, the Registrar may object to the name change if e feels
> that the new name is either a) too close to an existing player name(i.e.
> differs by only one or two characters), or b) is intended only to exploit
> Malenkai's Loophole(see Rule 721).
> 
> If the Registrar acknowledges a legal name change, or after three days have
> passed if the Registrar neither acknowledges the change nor objects to
> it(and the new name complies with all applicable rules), then the name
> change is accepted and occurs, at which time the player in question shall
> pay the Standard Harfer Fee.
> 
> The Registrar is required to record and announce any legal name changes,
> and is encouraged but not required to point out any failed name changes as
> well.
> 
> When a player changes eir Ackanomic name, all Ackanomic business will be
> changed to follow eir new name.
> NOWHERE

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:54:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3079 accepted

Results of Proposal 3079

22/26 votes: Quorum achieved
16/22 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
else...if            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote

    NO:
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Koxvolio             (Harf)

    PRESENT:
Ayla

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
rufus                (SPAM)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3079 - Mon 18 May 1998 09:49 EDT
> Use the Source Luke
> JT (JT Traub)
> 
> Amend rule 210 by appending the following WORDUP delimited text as the
> final paragraph in the rules.
> WORDUP
> "If a proposal that is a Great Work passes" [The Rules of Ackanomic, Rule
> 210] "which contains a list of words which are" [The Rules of Ackanomic ,
> Rule 346] "in the Ackanomic Rule Set previous to" [The Rules of Ackanomic,
> Rule 605] "the adoption of this rule, or the" [The Rules of Ackanomic, Rule
> 611] "Rules of Ackanomic (known as the Official Rules Document)" [The Rules
> of Ackanomic, Rule 407.1] "then the following steps occur, in order: " [The
> Rules of Ackanomic, Rule 851] "the player who submitted the proposal is"
> [The Rules of Ackanomic, Rule 207.1] "said to be foolish, and shall score
> 10 points" [The Rules of Ackanomic, Rule 207.1], "the Rules of Ackanomic
> (known as the Official Rules Document)" [The Rules of Ackanomic, Rule
> 407.1] "won't let your proposal qualify as literature" [The Rules of
> Ackanomic, Rule 210] "and this paragraph shall then be repealed." [The
> Rules of Ackanomic, Rule 1319]
> WORDUP
> 
> {{Remove The Rules of Ackanomic from the Literature List}}

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:55:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3080 rejected

Results of Proposal 3080

21/26 votes: Quorum achieved
7/20 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
else...if            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Ayla

    NO:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
saaremaa
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
rufus                (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3080 - Mon 18 May 1998 09:50 EDT
> Good Samaritans
> Astro (Roie Marianer)
> 
> [Why not? There is an "Alice in wonderland" law already] Create a rule
> numbered 43 called "The Good Samaritans' Law" with the following content as
> delimited by SEINFELD
> SEINFELD
> Any player that sees an entity in danger must help that entity if possible.
> SEINFELD
> Correct any unambigious spelling errors in Rule 43 and its title.

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:55:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3081 rejected

Results of Proposal 3081

21/26 votes: Quorum achieved
9/17 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
saaremaa
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Attila the Pun
Slakko               (SPAM)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)

    NO:
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:
Koxvolio             (Harf)

    BAA!:
Wild Card            (SPAM)
Fortunato
Ayla

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
rufus                (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3081 - Mon 18 May 1998 09:52 EDT
> Now we can get swingpoints without playing chess
> The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> Modify rule 1044 by replacing the text:
> 
> "4. It is the duty of the Chess-Umpire to track all aspects of Swingpoints.
> If there is no Chess-Umpire, then it is the duty of the newest Swinger to
> keep track of Swingpoints. "
> 
> with the text:
> 
> "4. It is the duty of the Chess-Umpire to track all aspects of Swingpoints.
> If there is no Chess-Umpire, then any player may volunteer to keep track of
> Swingpoints, in which case it becomes eir duty to do so. If there is no
> such volunteer then no swingpoints may be awarded or used."

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:57:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3083 accepted

Results of Proposal 3083

21/26 votes: Quorum achieved
21/22 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
Ayla
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Vulcan Unity Vote
Klingon Unity Vote

    NO:
saaremaa

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Wild Card            (SPAM)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
rufus                (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3083 - Mon 18 May 1998 09:54 EDT
> Nameless Horrors in the Proposal Queue: Film at 11
> breadbox (Brian Raiter)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> Amend Rule 301 ("Proposal and Rule Titles"), by replacing the sentence that
> reads:
> 
> "If the player doesn't indicate a Title for the Proposal then the Promoter
> shall select a Title."
> 
> with the following sentence:
> 
> "If the player doesn't indicate a legal Title for the Proposal then the
> Promoter shall select a Title."
> 
> {{[Since Rule 301 was first drafted, it's become possible for a player to
> specify an invalid Title. The Promoter needs to be able to supply a title
> in those cases as well.]}}

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:57:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 3084 accepted

Results of Proposal 3084

21/26 votes: Quorum achieved
20/22 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
breadbox
IdiotBoy
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Mr. Tambourine Man   (Klingon)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Wild Card            (SPAM)
else...if            (Klingon)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Attila the Pun
Fortunato
Slakko               (SPAM)
Ayla
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Vulcan Unity Vote
Klingon Unity Vote

    NO:
saaremaa
JT                   (Boomerangs)

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
rufus                (SPAM)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Pandora              (MetaMorph)
Astro

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
Tom Kitten

> Proposal 3084 - Mon 18 May 1998 09:55 EDT
> Actually, Let's Just Straighten Out This Whole Title Thing Right Now
> breadbox (Brian Raiter)
> 
> {{[Proposals and Rules are the original named entities by tradition.
> Obviously, their names correspond to their titles. All well and good,
> except that the rules never come out and state this. Titles are always
> referred to as Titles, and the rules indicate that they are really entity
> names only indirectly - mainly, by all the exceptions to the restrictions
> that entity names are subject to (because we don't usually think of them as
> names). So much of this stuff isn't in the rules and is only upheld via
> game custom. It's past time to put this stuff in writing, so to speak.]}}
> 
> I. [The following changes to Rule 301 codify current game practice, and
> clear away some aniquated language.]
> 
> Replace the text of Rule 301 ("Proposal and Rule Titles") with the
> following text as delimited by DELIMITED:
> 
> DELIMITED
> Rules and Proposals are named, unownable entities. The names of Rules and
> Proposals are referred to as their titles.
> 
> The titles of Rules and Proposals are not required to be unique, with
> respect to each other or with respect to any other entity. (This paragraph
> takes precedence over Rule 348.)
> 
> The following characters:
> 
>   " : ; ( )
> 
> [i.e., double-quote, backquote, colon, semicolon, and parentheses] are
> legal name characters when they appear in the titles of Proposals and
> Rules. Proposals and Rules may have titles of up to one hundred forty name
> characters. (This paragraph takes precedence over Rule 500.1.)
> 
> When a Proposal is accepted that creates a new Rule, the new Rule shall
> have the title indicated by the Proposal, or, if no valid title is
> specified, the new Rule shall have the same title as the Proposal.
> DELIMITED
> 
> {{[All of the explicit extensions to legal titles have their precedent in
> previous proposals. Please don't consider this an invitation to go wild.
> I'm just trying to keep legal what we've treated as legal in the past. Note
> that angle-brackets are still not permitted, by the way, in order to
> preserve my sanity when harfing the HTML. (I'd outlaw the ampersand too if
> I thought I could get away with it.)]}}
> 
> II. [Removing now-redundant language]
> 
> Amend Rule 348 (" ") by replacing its initial paragraph:
> 
> No two named entities may have names that match. The names of Rules and
> Proposals are exempted from this restriction.
> 
> with the following paragraph:
> 
> No two named entities may have names that match.
> 
> {{[Thus a rule must override via precedence in order to violate this
> restriction, as do Rules 301 and 258.]}}
> 
> III. [Moving the Promoter's duty to where it belongs]
> 
> Amend Rule 406 ("Promoter") by replacing the text:
> 
> "(d) to promptly distribute each numbered proposal for voting."
> 
> with the following:
> 
> "
> (d) to assign a title to each proposal for which the submitter did not
> indicate a legal title;
> 
> (e) to promptly distribute each proposal for voting.
> "
> 
> {{[This duty was originally in Rule 301.]}}

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