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acka-voting-digest         Monday, May 4 1998         Volume 03 : Number 062

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 07:59:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2942 rejected

Results of Proposal 2942

19/24 votes: Quorum achieved
6/13 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Attila the Pun
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Slakko               (SPAM)
else...if            (Klingon)

    NO:
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
breadbox

    PRESENT:
Astro
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)

    BAA!:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
H*bert               (SPAM)
Pandora
Ayla

    ABSTAINED:
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
IdiotBoy
rufus                (SPAM)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Illusion

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
saaremaa
UglyBigNose

> Proposal 2942 - Sun 26 Apr 1998 10:40 EDT
> Hmmm Quick Fix
> Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> [You can currently have two moves followed by a placement, but not two
> moves without a following placement. How stupid is that?]
> 
> Amend Rule 1230.2 by replacing the sentence delimited by COMPLEX below:
> 
> COMPLEX
> A Swinger whose Weight is non-zero and less than 50, and has four or fewer
> on-board pieces may make a Play composed of k Moves followed by a single
> Placement, or one Move followed by k Placements, or any other single Atomic
> Play, where k is equal to one or two.
> COMPLEX
> 
> with the following FLEXIBLE-delimited text:
> 
> FLEXIBLE
> A Swinger whose Weight is non-zero and less than 50, and has four or fewer
> on-board pieces may make a Play composed of k Moves followed by l
> Placements, where k and l are each at most two, and sum to at most three.
> FLEXIBLE

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:04:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2943 accepted

Results of Proposal 2943

18/24 votes: Quorum achieved
14/20 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
H*bert               (SPAM)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
else...if            (Klingon)
Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote
Klingon Unity Vote
MetaMorph Unity Vote

    NO:
Attila the Pun
Pandora
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Slakko               (SPAM)
breadbox

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:

    ABSTAINED:
Astro
Ayla
IdiotBoy
rufus                (SPAM)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Illusion

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
saaremaa
UglyBigNose

> Proposal 2943 - Sun 26 Apr 1998 10:41 EDT
> Look but don't touch
> The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> Create a new rule as a member of the otzma card rule suite titled "Otzma
> Card of type Lay Off!" reading as follows:
> 
> "This card may only be played in the public forum.
> 
> In order to play this card the owner must unambiguously specify any single
> gadget. For the next week (i.e. 168 hours) any attempt to use a scroll of
> crumble on that gadget will fail. The scroll will still be destroyed
> however.
> 
> At any given time there may be at most 7 cards of this type. Lay Off! cards
> have an F designation of Normal."

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:08:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2944 accepted

Results of Proposal 2944

20/24 votes: Quorum achieved
19/21 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Attila the Pun
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Ayla
Slakko               (SPAM)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
else...if            (Klingon)
breadbox
Vulcan Unity Vote
Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote
Klingon Unity Vote

    NO:
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
Pandora

    PRESENT:
Astro

    BAA!:
H*bert               (SPAM)

    ABSTAINED:
IdiotBoy
rufus                (SPAM)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Illusion

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
saaremaa
UglyBigNose

> Proposal 2944 - Sun 26 Apr 1998 10:42 EDT
> More Repeal
> The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> All otzma cards of type untouch me are converted to A$5. Repeal rule
> 1240.5.
> 
> {{[I've yet to see one of these used, and I can't really see them ever
> being used. Duels are fun.]}}

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:13:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2945 accepted

Results of Proposal 2945

19/24 votes: Quorum achieved
10/14 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Attila the Pun
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
Slakko               (SPAM)
else...if            (Klingon)
MetaMorph Unity Vote

    NO:
Koxvolio             (Harf)
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
breadbox

    PRESENT:
Vynd                 (Vulcan)

    BAA!:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
H*bert               (SPAM)
Pandora
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Ayla

    ABSTAINED:
Astro
IdiotBoy
rufus                (SPAM)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Illusion

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
saaremaa
UglyBigNose

> Proposal 2945 - Sun 26 Apr 1998 10:43 EDT
> Party Chess Piece Guard
> The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> Create a new rule as a member of the party chess rule suite titled "Party
> Chess Piece Guard" reading as follows:
> 
> "A guard is a piece with a material value of 7.
> 
> It is represented by the character +.
> 
> A guard cannot be captured by an archer or a kamikaze [due to special
> training]. If there are no enemy pieces which are attacking it then it will
> also be able to protect any friendly pieces orthogonally adjacent to it,
> which means that any such pieces also may not be captured by an archer or a
> kamikaze.
> 
> A guard may move up to three squares in any orthogonal direction or up to
> two squares in any diagonal direction."

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:20:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2946 accepted

Results of Proposal 2946

20/24 votes: Quorum achieved
12/20 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
JT                   (Boomerangs)
Astro
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Ayla
Slakko               (SPAM)
else...if            (Klingon)
breadbox

    NO:
Attila the Pun
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
H*bert               (SPAM)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
Tammany                                 [K 2 bribed Tammany A$25]

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Pandora

    ABSTAINED:
IdiotBoy
rufus                (SPAM)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Illusion

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
saaremaa
UglyBigNose

> Proposal 2946 - Sun 26 Apr 1998 10:44 EDT
> Beldin's repeal
> JT (JT Traub)
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> Amend rule 910 'The Ackanomicon' to remove the following GONE delimited
> text
> GONE
> The Secret (1 page): This page contains the great, unutterable Secret. The
> reader of this page may amend the rule Beldin's Pants as if he were
> Beldin's Tailor. He may only do so once, and he has only 72 hours after it
> becomes publicly knowable that he has read this page to do so. Doing so,
> however, will cost the player the Standard Harfer Fee, he may only do so
> once.
> GONE
> 
> Repeal rule 939 "Beldin's Tailor".
> Repeal rule 940 "Beldin's Pants".

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:25:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2947 rejected

Results of Proposal 2947

19/24 votes: Quorum achieved
11/19 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Attila the Pun
JT                   (Boomerangs)
K 2                  (MetaMorph)
J. M. Bear           (MetaMorph)
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
Pandora
/dev/joe             (Vulcan)
ThinMan              (Vulcan)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Hubert               (Boomerangs)
else...if            (Klingon)

    NO:
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Vynd                 (Vulcan)
Joe Java             (Boomerangs)
Koxvolio             (Harf)
Ayla
breadbox
Tammany                                 [breadbox bribed Tammany A$30]

    PRESENT:

    BAA!:
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
H*bert               (SPAM)

    ABSTAINED:
IdiotBoy
Astro
rufus                (SPAM)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Illusion

    VACATIONING:
Guy Fawkes

    PENDING:
two-star
saaremaa
UglyBigNose

> Proposal 2947 - Sun 26 Apr 1998 10:45 EDT
> Bandwagoning
> Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> [This rule provides a scoring system for BAA! votes, slightly different
> from other votes, but hopefully not so different as to completely ruin the
> Scorekeeper's day.]
> 
> Amend Rule 207 by inserting the following SHEEPISH-delimited text
> immediately before "A proposal can only be declared to be Modest or
> Grandiose as defined by the Rules."
> 
> SHEEPISH
> A player who votes BAA! on a proposal shall receive (n-p) points, where n
> is the number of points that could be earned by anti-voting on that
> proposal, and p is the total number of players who voted BAA! on that
> proposal.
> 
> However, if exactly one player votes PRESENT on a proposal, all points
> (positive or negative) which would have been given to players who voted
> BAA! as a result of the preceding paragraph are instead given to the player
> who voted PRESENT, who is then known as the Shepherd. The players who voted
> BAA! do not have their score changed as a result of their votes in such a
> case.
> SHEEPISH

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:46:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2982

Proposal 2982
It was good, but not good enough, Alfvaen
Ayla (Raquel Peres da Silva)

[As item 2 of Rule 342 was amended in order to allow players other than
officers to initiate the fly of the Spelling Bee, item 4 must be amended
too, otherwise it won't make much sense. Sounds like 5 points just falling
on my lap... :-)]

Amend Rule 342, "Spelling Bee", by replacing the word "An officer initiates
its flight by posting a public message" with the text "A player initiates
its flight by posting a public message".

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:47:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2983

Proposal 2983
No more Jabberwocky
Attila the Pun (Micah Smulker)

This is a Modest proposal.

Amend rule 500.1 (Entity Names) as follows:

1. Replace the text "A name is a sequence of name characters." with
the text "A name is a sequence of no more than seventy name characters.
{{[probably more than we'll ever need.] Any entity whose name is more
than seventy name characters loses that name and is considered not to
have a name; however, it does not become a nameless entity.}}"

2. Replace the text currently in the rule which is delimited below by
THISMAKESNOSENSE with the THISDOES-delimited text occuring later in this
proposal:

THISMAKESNOSENSE
If a named entity at any time ever does not have a name, it shall
immediately take the name "Nameless Thing #X", where X is the lowest
positive integer creating a legal name for the entity. If this would
result in multiple entities having the same name, one of them is chosen
at random. If this method does not produce a legal name, the entity
remains unnamed.

[So, for example a character named "those pesky aliens" might have an
accented representation of eir name as "th=F6se p=E9sky =E2liens".]
THISMAKESNOSENSE

THISDOES
[So, for example a character named "those pesky aliens" might have an
accented representation of eir name as "th=F6se p=E9sky =E2liens".]

If a named entity at any time ever does not have a name, it shall
immediately take the name "Nameless Thing #X", where X is the lowest
positive integer creating a legal name for the entity. If this would
result in multiple entities having the same name, one of them is chosen
at random. If this method does not produce a legal name, the entity
remains unnamed.
THISDOES

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:49:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2984

Proposal 2984
Happiness
Attila the Pun (Micah Smulker)

Create a rule, whose number is the least integer greater than 1300
which is not already a rule number, with the following text:

At any time, one number and only one number is known as the Happy
Number.  The Happy Number is at all times an integer between -60
and the Magic Number.  {{Initially, the Happy Number is 42.}}

If any time it is publically knowable that a player has a score
exactly equal to the Happy Number, that player may point this fact
out by publically stating: "Happy! Happy! Happy!".  E then gains a
probabilistic Boon of the Ancients and the Happy Number becomes a
random integer between -60 and the Magic Number.

The number equal to (The Magic Number)-(The Happy Number) is known
as the Sad Number.  If any player has a score equal to the Sad Number,
other players are encouraged to give that player gifts, to console em.

If at any time the Happy Number is equal to the Sad Number, Rule 101
shall be repealed, and all players shall receive a Winning Condition.
This paragraph shall be struck from this rule if it is possible under
the current ruleset for the Magic Number to become composite.

AtP

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:50:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2985

Proposal 2985
Archeology
Attila the Pun (Micah Smulker)

This is a Modest proposal.

Amend rule 593 (Ackanomic Research Guild) by replacing the text
"equivalent to the Magic Number" in section C. with the text
"greater than or equal to the Magic Number".

{{[The only reason I can think of for this to exist at all is
to make it so you can't win the cycle by points and then become
Archeologist; this causes the rule to become somewhat better at
making that be the case.]}}

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:51:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2986

Proposal 2986
Theocracy
else...if (Henry Towsner)

If the president, since eir most recent election to the position,
has not selected a Church to be the State Religion, then e may do so.  At
that time any Church which was previously the State Religion ceases to be
so.  The Founder of the State Religion may select one statement to be the
National Doctrine by publicly declaring it, and clearly marking it as the
National Doctrine.  That statement will remain the National Doctrine for as
long as that Church remains the State Religion.  If a player, the Vigilant,
believes that another player, the Blasphemer, has publicly contradicted the
National Doctrine then the Vigilant may call a Blasphemy Hearing against
that player, with emself as Hearing Harfer, provided there are less then 5
Blasphemy Hearings in progress.  The responses to a Blasphemy Hearing are
"E didn't understand what e was saying" and "Where's my torch?"  If the
result is "E didn't understand what e was saying" then they player who
called the Vigilant will lose 10 points.  If the result is "Where's my
torch?" then the Blasphemer will lose 20 points and spend one day in Gaol,
contemplating the true faith.

{{Renumber this rule to number to 1307.2.}}

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:52:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2987

Proposal 2987
Don't feed the animals
else...if (Henry Towsner)

Add the following, PEANUT-delimeted text, to the end of rule 721
PEANUT
IV. Monkey Baiting
Sending a message required by the rules to which private replies to the
sender are required (such as a hearing or some games) and not sending it to
a -priv mailing list is Annoying.

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:53:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2988

Proposal 2988
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose
saaremaa (Randy Hall)

This is a Modest proposal.

- ------------------------------------------------------------------

Amend rule 252, "Joining the Game", to replace:

"
This message must include their Ackanomic and real life 
names, as well as a valid email address.
"

with:

"
This message must specify the name of the Undead that qualifies
them to join as a Returning player per section I, their real life
name, and their e-mail address.

{{
This rule has precedence over all rules.  If an Undead named
Malenkai exists, that undead transfers all of its possessions to
the author of the proposal that added this text to this rule, then
that Undead is destroyed.
}}
"

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:54:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2989

Proposal 2989
Those pesky non-ASCII characters
breadbox (Brian Raiter)

This is a Modest Proposal.

{{[Sorry if you feel killing this bit of harf is heartless on my
part. But it's never been used in its time here, and, to be honest, it
would be a pain if someone did.]}}

I.  Delete from Rule 500.1 ("Entity Names") the paragraph that reads:

    An alphabetic character can be "accented". If this is the case,
    then it has two equivalent representations, one with the
    non-accented alphabetic character, and one with an accented
    representation of the same character.  The accented representation
    will be in accord with the HTML standard, so that, for instance,
    an o with an umlaut will be represented as &ouml; .  (This is the
    only circumstance under which a semicolon can be part of a name.)
    The accented representation is intended mainly for use on the
    Ackanomic web pages, where it will show up[in most browsers, at
    least]as the accented character in question. A character cannot be
    accented in a way that cannot be represented in the HTML
    standard. In any context where characters are being counted, the
    accented representation of a character counts as a single
    character.

and then delete from the same rule the final paragraph [which reads:

    So, for example a character named "those pesky aliens" might have
    an accented representation of eir name as "th&ouml;se p&eacute;sky
    &acirc;liens".

but is in square brackets, so I can't quote it directly].

II. Delete from Rule 340 ("Conventions") the following text (which
    appears in section VII): "; accented letters come immediately
    after the unaccented form of the letter".

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:55:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2990

Proposal 2990
Mentoring minor fix
JT (JT Traub)

This is a Modest proposal

Replace this OLD delimited sentance
OLD
  Any Acting player may place emself in the mentor pool or remove emself
  therefrom.
OLD
with the following NEW delimited sentances
NEW
  Any Acting player may place emself in the mentor pool or remove emself
  therefrom by notifying the Registrar.  This notification may be done
  privately.
NEW

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:56:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: nomicbot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2991

Proposal 2991
The Truth Is In Here
Slakko (Duncan Richer)

This is a Modest Proposal.

[The Otzma Cards TruthSeeker have not been used in my time as RuneMaker.
Not once!  Perhaps it is because they are too expensive to use
realistically.  Let's face it - as things stand to get even one word costs
you A$10, and that word is probably going to be "the" or "date" or some
such pointless and already expected word.  To get anything decent costs
you at least A$90, and with only a single Boon of the Ancients as the
prize, this is a little expensive.  Let's lower the price.]

Delete the second paragraph of Rule 1240.12.
[It is descriptive fluff which is redundant given that the following
sentence describes what the card does.]

Amend Rule 1240.12 by replacing the text "10 times the square" with 
"4 times the square" wherever it occurs, and by replacing the text "as
soon as humanly possible" with "within 3 days, but before any other public
messages are sent by the revealing player if possible" wherever it occurs.

[Getting rid of Weasel words - what exactly do we mean by "as soon as
humanly possible"?]

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 09:06:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2947 accepted (NOT REJECTED)

Stop, stop, stop. I made a critical typo while tabulating Proposal
2947, enough to change the outcome.

The votes are listed correctly, but the summary is in error.

The actual results of Proposal 2947 are:

19/24 votes: Quorum achieved
11/18 YES votes: Proposal accepted

Thanks to Slakko for catching me. (There goes my record.)

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 09:10:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2947 accepted (NOT REJECTED)

> Stop, stop, stop. I made a critical typo while tabulating Proposal
> 2947, enough to change the outcome.

Y'know, it's a good thing this came at the *end* of a batch, otherwise
Alfvaen might have gone all the way through a bunch of proposals
before finding out that he had to go back and do half of them all over
again....

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 12:06:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Schmidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Retraction of proposal 2978

I hereby retract proposal 2978.
J. M. Bear

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 12:35:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Schmidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Retraction of proposal 2978

I hereby retract proposal 2978. (Sorry for the previous attempt)J. M.
Bear

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