Subject: acka-voting-digest V2 #268
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acka-voting-digest      Friday, January 30 1998      Volume 02 : Number 268

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:55:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2627 accepted

Results of Proposal 2627

18/22 votes: Quorum achieved
16/18 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
rufus                (SPAM)
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
ThinMan              (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
/dev/joe             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Fortunato            (SPAM)
Bill the pirate king (Boomerangs)
breadbox
K 2                  (SPAM)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Goldenmean           (Boomerangs)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Klingon Unity Vote

    NO:
Malenkai             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Vynd                 (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)

    PRESENT:
Slagothor            (Boomerangs)

    ABSTAINED:
Balsamic Dragon      (SPAM)
Red Barn
two-star             (MetaMorph)
Crackfoo             (Harf)

    VACATIONING:
Michael Wren

    PENDING:
Device
Hoover 2300

> Proposal 2627 - Fri 23 Jan 1998 02:47 EST
> Only The Stars Look Down
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> 
> Amend Rule 1240.17, "Otzma Card of type Grave Robber", as follows:
> 
> Replace the text "If the Undead ownes any entities" with "If the Undead
> owns any tradeable entities". {{[ 'Cause there's no reason to steal the
> poor beggars' Blue Crosses... ]}}
> 
> {{ If, as the result of any Grave Robber card played before this Proposal
> is accepted, any nontradeable entities have been transferred from an Undead
> to a player, then each such entity is returned to the Undead, and a
> tradeable entity, selected as if the Card had been played according to the
> current version of Rule 1240.17, is transferred from the Undead to the
> Player instead. }}
> 
> {{[ Also, to fix the fact that Grave Robber still refers to Bonds
> Promissory...although I have a vague thought that some such fix proposal
> had already been submitted...? ]}}
> 
> Delete the text "and Bonds Promissory", and the text "plus enough BPs to
> total 10". Replace the text "10 A$ or PFs" with "up to 10 A$".

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:59:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2628 rejected

Results of Proposal 2628

18/22 votes: Quorum achieved
9/16 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
rufus                (SPAM)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
/dev/joe             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
else...if            (Klingon)
Fortunato            (SPAM)
Bill the pirate king (Boomerangs)
breadbox
Slakko               (SPAM)
Goldenmean           (Boomerangs)

    NO:
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
ThinMan              (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
K 2                  (SPAM)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
Vynd                 (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Slagothor            (Boomerangs)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)

    PRESENT:
Malenkai             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)

    ABSTAINED:
Balsamic Dragon      (SPAM)
Red Barn
two-star             (MetaMorph)
Crackfoo             (Harf)

    VACATIONING:
Michael Wren

    PENDING:
Device
Hoover 2300

> Proposal 2628 - Fri 23 Jan 1998 02:48 EST
> I'm Sure That Wasn't Meant
> Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> Amend Rule 1240.7 by appending the text " from another entity" after the
> word "received".
> 
> {{[This way trinket creation / destruction does not count.]}}

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:03:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2629 accepted

Results of Proposal 2629

18/22 votes: Quorum achieved
11/18 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
rufus                (SPAM)
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
K 2                  (SPAM)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Fortunato            (SPAM)
Bill the pirate king (Boomerangs)
Vynd                 (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Goldenmean           (Boomerangs)

    NO:
ThinMan              (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
/dev/joe             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Malenkai             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
breadbox
Slakko               (SPAM)
Slagothor            (Boomerangs)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)

    PRESENT:

    ABSTAINED:
Balsamic Dragon      (SPAM)
Red Barn
two-star             (MetaMorph)
Crackfoo             (Harf)

    VACATIONING:
Michael Wren

    PENDING:
Device
Hoover 2300

> Proposal 2629 - Fri 23 Jan 1998 02:49 EST
> Evil
> K 2 (Kelly Kelly)
> 
> Append the following EVIL delimitted text to rule 721.
> EVIL
> II. New Player Embezelment
> 
> Intentionally causing a player to lose currency during the first three
> weeks of eir being a new player, is Annoying. It is also Evil.
> EVIL

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:07:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2630 accepted

Results of Proposal 2630

18/22 votes: Quorum achieved
12/15 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
rufus                (SPAM)
ThinMan              (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Fortunato            (SPAM)
Bill the pirate king (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Slagothor            (Boomerangs)
Goldenmean           (Boomerangs)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
Boomerangs Unity Vote

    NO:
Malenkai             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
K 2                  (SPAM)

    PRESENT:
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
/dev/joe             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
breadbox
Vynd                 (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)

    ABSTAINED:
Balsamic Dragon      (SPAM)
Red Barn
two-star             (MetaMorph)
Crackfoo             (Harf)

    VACATIONING:
Michael Wren

    PENDING:
Device
Hoover 2300

> Proposal 2630 - Fri 23 Jan 1998 02:52 EST
> legal Ackanomic name
> rufus (David Scheidt)
> 
> This is a modest Proposal.
> 
> Ammend section i of Rule 666 to be the "-delimited text:
> "Fortnightly Dividends are reinstituted, as if all players's scores were
> zero at the end of the previous fortnight."

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:10:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2631 accepted

Results of Proposal 2631

18/22 votes: Quorum achieved
11/17 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
rufus                (SPAM)
The Gingham Wearer   (Klingon)
Calvin N Hobbes      (Harf)
/dev/joe             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Niccolo Flychuck     (MetaMorph)
Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
else...if            (Klingon)
Fortunato            (SPAM)
Bill the pirate king (Boomerangs)
Slakko               (SPAM)
Slagothor            (Boomerangs)

    NO:
ThinMan              (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Malenkai             (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
K 2                  (SPAM)
Vynd                 (Rule 1 is repealed. #1)
Goldenmean           (Boomerangs)
Rex Mundi            (Klingon)

    PRESENT:
breadbox

    ABSTAINED:
Balsamic Dragon      (SPAM)
Red Barn
two-star             (MetaMorph)
Crackfoo             (Harf)

    VACATIONING:
Michael Wren

    PENDING:
Device
Hoover 2300

> Proposal 2631 - Fri 23 Jan 1998 02:56 EST
> Fair Hearings
> rufus (David Scheidt)
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> Replace the penultimate paragraph of rule 360 with the following
> GOLDFISH-delimited text:
> 
> GOLDFISH
> When the results of a Hearing are inconclusive, the Hearing Harfer shall
> recount the votes, discounting any cast by a non-Player Entity. If the
> result is still inconclusive, the result is whichever of the tied responses
> appears first in the Rule defining them, unless the Rule for a particular
> hearing defines an alternative way to resolve the inconclusive hearing.
> GOLDFISH

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:13:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2671

Proposal 2671
Being Hosed Should Not Destroy Artistic Integrity!
Fortunato (Aaron Keesler)

This is a Modest Proposal

Amend Rule 594.17, Blueprint: BWG Laser, in the following fashion:

Replace the "-delimited statement, "poetry, specifically original
haikus, limericks, sonnets, and rhymed couplets"

With the "-delimited statement, "poetry, specifically original haikus,
limericks, sonnets, sestinas, and rhymed couplets"

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:15:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2672

Proposal 2672
The Madness of Crowds
Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)

This is a Modest proposal.

In Rule 594.17, "Blueprint: BWG Laser", replace "proper madrigals" with
"proper madrigals and sestinas".

{{ Reduce Alfvaen's score by two points; increase Fortunato's score by
two points. [ For the inspiration, you know. ] }}

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:18:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2673

Proposal 2673
A Song for all Seasons
Malenkai (Randy Hall)

This is a Modest proposal.

{{[my proposal is to make acceptance of CFJs implicit, and make
declining them a public action.  This seems a reasonable compromise,
and seems the way things should work, especially now that we have 
the CIL and Preator for deadbeats.  This proposal also eliminates
a couple of bugs from these rules, such as the possibility of 
"other" in rule 212 being construed as the CotC, not the initiator,
and rule 213 being construed that a *random* CFJ the deadbeat is
judging be assigned to the Praetor, rather than the deadbeated 
one :-)]}}

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Amend rule 211, "Invoking Judgement", to replace the first 2 
paragraphs with the following two:

"
A Call for Judgement (CFJ), is an assertion about the rules, the facts, 
or their interpretation.  A CFJ should include a single, clear, and 
clearly labeled statement that can be answered TRUE or FALSE. The 
remainder of the CFJ may consist of additional comments or reasoning,
which the Judge is under no obligation to consider.

A CFJ may be made by any player by sending it to the Clerk of the Court,
who will select a judge as described in the rules, and then post it
publically, along with the identity of the selected Judge.
";

then amend rule 211 to move the 5th paragraph directly after the 3rd
paragraph.  [that is that e.g. paragraph, and the example is for the
points made in the 3rd, not the 4th paragraph].

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Amend rule 212, "Selecting a Judge", to replace:

"
When Judgement has been called for, a Judge is randomly selected from among 
the other active players that are eligible to judge CFJs, as defined by 
any applicable rules. It is a duty of the Clerk of the Court to make this
selection. The player selected has 3 days in which to accept or decline
the appointment by posting to the applicable officer; once made, this 
decision may not be changed. Any player who does not respond to selection
in 3 days shall be considered a deadbeat and penalized 10 points, and 
deemed to have refused appointment; the CFJ shall then be assigned to 
the Praetor. If a selected player actively declines appointment, then 
a further random selection is made from the remaining pool. 
"

with:

"
When a CFJ is made, the Clerk of the Court randomly selects a 
player (other than the initiator of the CFJ), to serve as Judge
from among the active voting players eligible to judge CFJs.

The selected Judge may decline a particular appointment, as a 
public action, within 3 days of being selected.  In this case,
a new Judge is selected as described above from the remaining pool 
(the declining Judge becomes ineligible for that CFJ). 
"

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Amend rule 213, "Delivering Judgement", to read:

"
Having been appointed and having not declined, a Judge has exactly
one week fron the time of eir appointment to post eir Judgment to
the Clerk of the Court.  A Judge who defaults is a deadbeat and is
penalized 10 points, and the CFJ e defaulted on is assigned to the 
Praetor. 
"

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:20:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2674

Proposal 2674
A Scam for all Seasons
Malenkai (Randy Hall)

This is a Modest proposal.

{{[this was mabye not a bad idea, but a bad implementation.
Unfortunately, in my limited time, I cannot find a good 
implementation that does not have its own problems.  The
usefulness is less than the potential for abuse; e-mail me
if you want to know the details of the possible abuse, which
could be a bit nasty. (In fact, I had planned on abusing it
myself, but prolly won't have the chance)]}}

- --------------------------------------------------------------

Amend rule 330, "Retractions", to remove:

"
d) An appeal of a CFJ 
"

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:23:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2675

Proposal 2675
And Don't Let It Happen Again
Slagothor (Eric Plumb)

Repeal the last sentence of the first paragraph of Rule 330, "Retractions".

Amend Rule 330 by appending the following text to its end:

"No player who has been a member of Ackanomic for fewer than three
weeks shall lose any points as a result of this rule.  This paragraph
takes precedence over the rest of this rule."

{{[ Yes, I (and others) shamelessly abused this rule for our own Crazy
French-Scotsmanhood (although mine, I suppose, is in jeopardy if Slakko
hasn't won.)  This should make it a bit tougher, and therefore more
interesting, for future players. ]}}

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:55:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2676

Proposal 2676
Contested Claims
Slakko (Duncan Richer)

Create a new Rule, numbered 606, entitled "We Meet Again, Mr Smart", with
the following GINGHAM-delimited text:

GINGHAM
When a player believes that the Agenda Conditions on all eir Agenda Hats
are TRUE, and all eir Agenda Hats are visible, e may call a Condition
Hearing. The player calling the Condition Hearing is the Hearing Harfer
for that Hearing.  The valid responses for the Hearing are "True is true
as true can be" and "False is false as far as we see".  If the verdict is
"True is true as true can be", then that player receives the title of
KAOS-ian Elect.

A player also receives the title of KAOS-ian Elect whenever the
Illuminatus announces that that player has all eir Agenda Hats set to
true, and all eir Agenda Hats are Visible.

A player who possesses the title of KAOS-ian Elect loses that title
whenever they make a trade involving Agenda Hats.
GINGHAM

Amend Rule 607 by replacing "If a player owns at least three Agenda Hats,
and it is publicly knowable that the condition for each Agenda Hat e owns
is true," with "If a player is a KAOS-ian Elect"

{{[This avoids us having to worry about CFJs over whether or not Agenda
Conditions are fulfilled - either the Illuminatus announces it, or a
player can have a Hearing declare the fact.]}}

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