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acka-voting-digest     Thursday, December 11 1997     Volume 02 : Number 224

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:31:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2442 rejected

Results of Proposal 2442

18/21 votes: Quorum achieved
8/18 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Alfvaen             (MetaMorph)
Slakko              (SPAM)
rufus
Rex Mundi
K 2
mr cwm              (SPAM)
Vynd                (Vulcan)
Tammany                                 [K 2 bribed Tammany A$25]

    NO:
ThinMan             (Vulcan)
The Gingham Wearer  (SPAM)
Niccolo Flychuck    (MetaMorph)
breadbox
else...if           (SPAM)
/dev/joe            (Vulcan)
Fortunato           (SPAM)
Balsamic Dragon     (SPAM)
Crackfoo            (Harf)
two-star            (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:
Malenkai            (Vulcan)

    ABSTAINED:
Red Barn
Michael Wren
Calvin N Hobbes     (Harf)

    VACATIONING:
norpan
Archie Leach

> Proposal 2442 - Wed 3 Dec 1997 18:19:49
> Prolix Propositions
> K 2 (Kelly Kelly)
> 
> If a player tenders a proposal which fulfils the following requirements,
> then the proposal is a Prolix Proposition:
> 
> a) The proposal contains the furniture: "Warning Contains: <word>", were
> <word> is a word, contained in the official
> dictionary, which is not in the current rule set.
> b) <word> is used in the body of the proposal such that it is not
> contained in quotation marks, square brackets or double curly
> brackets and will become part of an existing or new rule. [ In other
> words it must be/become part of a functional sentence within a rule ]
> 
> Whenever a Prolix Proposition is accepted, the player who submitted it
> shall be endowed with a liberality of one point for
> enriching Acka, and is permitted to expound : "There's no word in
> English for my style" [They Might Be Giants, Extra Savoir Faire]
> 
> {{  [For example the following could be used as <word> ( as the rule set
> stands currently )] :
>                     tenders
>                     prolix
>                     proposition
>                     warning
>                     endowed
>                     liberality
>                     enriching
>                     expound                   }}

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:43:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2445 rejected

Results of Proposal 2445

17/21 votes: Quorum achieved
6/18 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
The Gingham Wearer  (SPAM)
Alfvaen             (MetaMorph)
Slakko              (SPAM)
/dev/joe            (Vulcan)
Balsamic Dragon     (SPAM)
Tammany                                 [K 2 bribed Tammany A$25]

    NO:
Red Barn
ThinMan             (Vulcan)
Malenkai            (?)
breadbox
else...if           (SPAM)
Rex Mundi
Fortunato           (SPAM)
K 2
Crackfoo            (Harf)
mr cwm              (SPAM)
Vynd                (Vulcan)
two-star            (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:

    ABSTAINED:
rufus
Niccolo Flychuck    (MetaMorph)
Michael Wren
Calvin N Hobbes     (Harf)

    VACATIONING:
norpan
Archie Leach

> Proposal 2445 - Wed 3 Dec 1997 18:58:22
> Simplification of Winning Conditions into Subers Again
> Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> This is a Grandiose Proposal.
> 
> {{[The aim of this proposal - to unify all the different winning methods
> without completely going round the twist, and thereby to make changes to
> the methods of achieving a win much simpler - just come up with different
> ways to get Subers, and make existing ways worth less Subers or none
> altogether!  I've left the current wins as full wins, but if people want
> to fiddle with that later, this rule makes it easy.]}}
> 
> {{[Note - this rule ignores the possibility of secret agendas, but we can
> bring them back into Subers if they both succeed, e.g. 7 Subers each time
> you get one of your condition hats set to true.]}}
> 
> {{[Thanks to lots and lots of suggestions, this tries hard to have no
> immediate effect on winning conditions.]}}
> 
> {{All ownable entities containing the word "Suber" or
> "Subers" in their name are destroyed.}}
> 
> {{[The above is necessary to eliminate Malenkai's loophole.]}}
> 
> Create a new Rule, numbered Rule 650, entitled "Win Condition", with text
> as delimited by WOOHOO below:
> 
> WOOHOO
> A cycle winning condition is achieved when a single player has 20 or more
> Subers in eir possession, and no other player has more Subers, and
> the single player possessing the most Subers does not possess the
> Chartreuse Goose.
> WOOHOO
> 
> Create a new Rule, numbered Rule 651, entitled "Subers", with text as
> delimited by PETER below:
> 
> PETER
> Subers are non-tradable entities.  Any references elsewhere in the Rules
> to players receiving or losing Subers are to be interpreted as the
> creation or destruction of Subers in that player's possession.  No
> non-player entity may possess Subers (the singular of Subers is Suber).
> All Suber creation or destruction which results from a single
> event shall occur simultaneously.
> PETER
> 
> Create a new Rule, numbered Rule 651.1, entitled "Gaining Subers", with
> text as delimited by FREAKAZOID below:
> 
> FREAKAZOID
> Players may only receive Subers as described in this Rule, but when they
> do receive them according to this rule, "received" is to be interpreted as
> in Rule 651.  The following are the only ways to receive Subers:
> 
> a) Whenever there is a unique player who has more than the Magic Number of
> points in eir possession, e shall receive 20 Subers.
> 
> b) A player whose score divides (MN-1) without remainder, where MN is the
> Magic Number, may Take The Box.  When a player Takes The Box, e receives
> 30/N^2 Subers, rounded down, where N = (MN-1)/P, MN is the Magic Number,
> and P is the player's score when e Took The Box.  The player's score is
> set to 0 simultaneously with the creation of the Subers.
> [e.g. Magic Number 257.  A player on 128 may Take the Box, as 256/128 = 2.
> Doing so would earn em 7 subers (= 30/2^2 rounded down)]
> 
> c) Whenever a verdict of TRUE is reached on a Paradox Win CFJ, the player
> who submitted it shall receive 20 Subers, provided e is a voting player at
> the time the verdict ceases to be appealable.
> 
> d) The instant after a player receives the title of "Sage o' Doe Gas", e
> shall receive 20 Subers, provided e received the title as a result
> of a non-Modest Proposal being accepted.
> 
> e) When the End of the World occurs as specified in Rule 1320, the active
> non-vacationing player who has donated most A$ to the Round Earth
> Restoration Society when the Earth was made Round shall receive 20 Subers,
> if a unique qualifying person exists.  If no unique qualifying person
> exists, then the same amount of Subers will be received by each player
> who, if the other players did not exist, would qualify as a unique
> qualifying person.  This number will be the minimum number required for at
> least one player to reach exactly 20 Subers.  If no players qualify, then
> all players in the game who are not On Ice shall receive 10 Subers for 
> witnessing the End of the World.
> 
> f) If a player's BV as described in Rule 850, "Museum", exceeds A$5000, 
> and has never exceeded A$5000 before, then e shall receive 20 Subers.
> 
> FREAKAZOID
> 
> Amend Rule 666 by replacing section h with the following FIXONE delimited
> text:
> 
> FIXONE
> h) Each player's score is set to zero.  All players lose all eir Subers.
> FIXONE
> 
> Amend Rule 666 by replacing section k with the following FIX delimited
> text:
> 
> FIX
> k)  A cycle is won by points if the change to the Suber total of the
> winner which created the winning condition was as described 
> in Rule 651.1 part (a).  If the cycle was won by points, then amend Rule
> 655 to change the base value of the Magic Number to the smallest prime
> number greater than (the current Magic Number*1.2). If the last two cycles
> were not won by points, then amend Rule 655 to change the base value of
> the Magic Number to the smallest prime number greater than (the current
> Magic Number*0.9). Reset the Magic Number to the base Magic Number. 
> FIX
> 
> [From here on the changes are deletions due to the consolidation of
> winning conditions into the Suber acquisition rule.]
> 
> Delete the last sentence of Rule 601.
> Renumber Rule 601 to Rule 654.
> 
> Delete the sentence of Rule 603 starting with "If exactly one voting
> player" and finishing with "Winning Condition".  
> Delete the sentence of Rule 603 which reads "None of the players shall win
> the cycle at this time."
> 
> Renumber Rule 603 to Rule 655.
> 
> Delete from Rule 605 the following <>-delimited text:
> 
> <>
> (1) win the current Cycle of the Game, if the Proposal which created the
> rule was non-Modest. This win, if it occurs, shall occur immediately after
> the score changes as a result of the Proposal being accepted are applied. 
> <>
> 
> Renumber Rule 605 to Rule 656.
> 
> Delete the second and third sentences of Rule 620.
> [The Chartreuse Goose condition by now has been subsumed into the rest of
> the Winning Condition set.]
> Delete the sentence of rule 620 which reads:
> "If this judgement is not overruled, then the player who called for
> judgement is declared the winner of the cycle; the win occurring at the
> time it becomes illegal to appeal the CFJ under the current rules. "
> [Again, already covered by the acquisition of Suber rules.]
> 
> Renumber Rule 620 to Rule 657.
> 
> Delete the last two sentences of Section VII of Rule 850.
> [The Museum winning condition has been converted into Subers.]
> 
> Replace the following ARMAGEDDON-delimited text from Rule 1320 with the
> SIMPLE-delimited text following:
> ARMAGEDDON
> The End of the World causes the cycle to immediately end. The winner of
> the cycle will be the active or vacationing player who had donated the
> most A$ to The Round Earth Restoration Society at the time that the Earth
> was made round. If this selection method results in a tie, or the player
> who would win is for some reason ineligible to win the cycle, then the
> player who most recently became Enlightened out of those players who are
> tied will be the winner of the cycle. If none of the players who are tied
> for most A$ donated to The Round Earth Society are Enlightened, then the
> Speaker will randomly select with equal probability one of the players who
> are tied to be the winner. In any of these cases, the winner will receive
> the title of Prophet of Doom.
> ARMAGEDDON
> 
> SIMPLE
> If the End of the World causes the cycle to end, then the winner will
> receive the title of Prophet of Doom.
> SIMPLE

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:43:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2446 rejected

Results of Proposal 2446

17/21 votes: Quorum achieved
9/17 YES votes: Proposal rejected

    YES:
Red Barn
Malenkai            (?)
The Gingham Wearer  (SPAM)
Alfvaen             (MetaMorph)
Slakko              (SPAM)
/dev/joe            (Vulcan)
Fortunato           (SPAM)
Balsamic Dragon     (SPAM)
two-star            (MetaMorph)

    NO:
ThinMan             (Vulcan)
breadbox
else...if           (SPAM)
Rex Mundi
K 2
Crackfoo            (Harf)
mr cwm              (SPAM)
Vynd                (Vulcan)

    PRESENT:

    ABSTAINED:
rufus
Niccolo Flychuck    (MetaMorph)
Michael Wren
Calvin N Hobbes     (Harf)

    VACATIONING:
norpan
Archie Leach

> Proposal 2446 - Wed 3 Dec 1997 19:06:35
> Changes to Subers
> Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> Append the following LOBE delimited text to Rule 651.1:
> 
> LOBE
> g) When a player is declared the winner of a game described in the Games
> and Contests Rule Suite, and the game was not a Duel, and involved 6 or
> more players, then e shall receive 1 Suber.  However, no player may earn
> more than 3 Subers in any one calendar month by this method.
> 
> h) When a player is declared the winner of a game of Grab-a-Donkey, e
> shall receive 1 Suber.
> 
> i) When a player acquires the title of Winner of a Game of PartyChess, e
> shall also receive 2 Subers.  If e is a Party Swinger, then all other
> members of that Political Party shall receive 1 Suber.  If e is an NAP
> Swinger, all other players who are not members of any Political Party
> shall receive 1 Suber. However, in the event that any player acquired that
> title earlier in the same calendar month, no Subers shall be received.
> LOBE

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:47:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2447 accepted

Results of Proposal 2447

16/21 votes: Quorum achieved
13/14 YES votes: Proposal accepted

    YES:
ThinMan             (Vulcan)
The Gingham Wearer  (SPAM)
Alfvaen             (MetaMorph)
Slakko              (SPAM)
else...if           (SPAM)
/dev/joe            (Vulcan)
Rex Mundi
Fortunato           (SPAM)
K 2
Crackfoo            (Harf)
mr cwm              (SPAM)
Vynd                (Vulcan)
Vulcan Unity Vote

    NO:
two-star            (MetaMorph)

    PRESENT:
Malenkai            (?)
breadbox
Balsamic Dragon     (SPAM)

    ABSTAINED:
Red Barn
rufus
Niccolo Flychuck    (MetaMorph)
Michael Wren
Calvin N Hobbes     (Harf)

    VACATIONING:
norpan
Archie Leach

> Proposal 2447 - Wed 3 Dec 1997 19:10:28
> Mediocrity Correction
> Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> This is a Modest Proposal.
> 
> Replace the text "A round must last at least three days" in Rule 1250.17
> with the following OPTION delimited text:
> 
> OPTION
> A round must last at least three days, or at least until all players other
> than the Moderator have submitted a legitimate number to the Moderator,
> whichever comes first.
> OPTION

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:52:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2489

Proposal 2489
Game State Harfer
Malenkai (Randy Hall)

This is a Modest proposal.

- -------------------------------------------

Create a new rule numbered 100, entitled 
"Game State Harfer", with the following text:

"
The Game State Harfer is an optional Office with
one seat.

The Game State Harfer, as a public action, may
make changes to the rules and the game state
by unambiguously describing the change(s) to
be made.  The changes are applied at the time
of the action.

This rule has precedence over all rules, except
that it defers to rule 101.

{{Malenkai is appointed to the office of Game State
Harfer.}}
"

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:53:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 2490

Proposal 2490
Bandwidth Moon
Malenkai (Randy Hall)

This is a Modest proposal.

- ------------------------------------------------------------

Create a new rule, numbered 375, entitled "Bandwidth Moon",
with the following text:

"
If a player feels another player is spamming the proposal queue
or otherwise wasting bandwidth or the officers' time on any public
forum, e may waste bandwidth by calling a Hearing on the matter of
whether the player in question, is, in fact, wasting bandwidth.

The valid responses to a Bandwidth Moon Hearing are "Yes, there's
less spam on Usenet", and "No, e's just testing eir new mail client".

If the result is the former, the player is guilty of Bandwidth-Wasting
Gizz, and becomes Hosed for 3 days as with a BWG Laser.  If the result
is the latter ... well, the result won't be the latter.

For obvious reasons, this Hearing may be called no more than three
times per calendar month.
"

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:37:18 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2489

> The Game State Harfer, as a public action, may
> make changes to the rules and the game state
> by unambiguously describing the change(s) to
> be made.  The changes are applied at the time
> of the action.
> 
> This rule has precedence over all rules, except
> that it defers to rule 101.
> 
> {{Malenkai is appointed to the office of Game State
> Harfer.}}
> "

  "What?"
  Why would anyone besides Malenkai desire this?  Admittedly Malenkai
can probably be trusted, but remember the fuss over Vulcan?

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