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acka-research-digest    Tuesday, November 10 1998    Volume 03 : Number 264

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 03:13:13 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: If E can do it so can I.

JT wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:
> >> These broke no instance limits, so they worked.
> >> Arctic Explorers are now at their instance limit.
> >> There are 98 total Otzma Cards in existance.
> >
> >I guess I'll read a page from my Spell Book of Chorg, then, just to revert
> >to more traditional methods...
>
> I sent the determination, then remembered that
>
> >In order to fully specify this action, the player must describe a
> >pyrotechnic display by which the page is destroyed. This action fails if
> >any other page has been read from the same book within the last calendar
> >week.
>
> So that determination didn't actually occur.
> (sorry alfvaen)
>
> Anyone else in favor of removing persnickety requirements like that from
> the rules.
>
> --JT

There have been several instances in the past when a SBoC has been
succesffully
read without a pyro display and at least one case were Malenkai (as e
was known
then) even pointed the lack of it in a particular reading, yet the read
continued to stand....

Wrt the RFC, I would prefer if an improperly read page wer destroyed
anyway,
rather than removing the requirement.

K 2
EiSBoC ;)

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 03:13:26 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Map Shard

Panic, Panic.... map for T248 I left around here some were....

K 2

Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:

> I read my Map Shard Otzma Card naming K 2 and treasure 248
>
> --A Mean Hat.
>
> Crazy French Scotsman -- Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
> Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 03:17:10 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: If E can do it so can I.

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, K 2 wrote:
>There have been several instances in the past when a SBoC has been
>succesffully
>read without a pyro display and at least one case were Malenkai (as e
>was known
>then) even pointed the lack of it in a particular reading, yet the read
>continued to stand....

Irrelevant.   The fact that the rules were ignored in the past does not
make it legal to ignore them in the present.

>Wrt the RFC, I would prefer if an improperly read page wer destroyed
>anyway, rather than removing the requirement.

Okay.. I'll consider that then when I start submitting props again :)

- --JT

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:49:20 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Cheesy things

I have bad news.

With the passage of proposal 3484 on 24/08/1998  12:32:00 Alfvaen gained
a winning condition by cheese. E continued to gain that winning
condition until 09 Nov 1998 5:15:15 when /dev/joe won the cycle by
cheese.

- ----

With /dev/joe's impending win I decided to take a look at the cheese
situation.

All Bries have been/will be destroyed.

The following players had Edams: Alfvaen, /dev/joe, JT, K 2, Gromit,
Slakko.
The following players imdiately get eir Edams back: /dev/joe, JT,
Slakko.

The following players have had Cheedars destroyed: /dev/joe, Gromit,
Alfvaen.

The following players have had Goudas destroyed: Alfvaen, /dev/joe, K 2,
Slakko, Fortunato.

The following players have had Stiltons destroyed: Alfvaen, breadbox,
Slakko, /dev/joe, K 2, Vynd.

The following represents how far along various players are to getting
specific types of cheeses:

Brie (a Duel Win):
IdiotBoy vs Studge.

- ---
Edam (5 Offices):

JT: 9
/dev/joe: 9
eirs: 3
Balsamic Dragon: 3
Guy Fawkes: 3
Gromit: 2
Slakko: 8
Fortunato: 2
Vynd: 4
404 Not Found: 1
The Green Ripper: 2
Alfvaen: 2
A Mean Hat: 2
K 2: 4
r-attila the farce: 1
else...if: 3
Wild Card: 1
Calvin n Hobbes: 3
smallpox blanket: 4
Studge: 3
rufus: 2*
ThinMan: 3
Niccolo Flychuck: 2
two-star: 1
IdiotBoy: 1
Robin Hood: 1
Goldenmean: 1
Red Barn: 1
Aunt Froot: 1
Koxvolio: 1
J. M. Bear: 1

Everybody else: 0

- ---
Cheedar (3 Harfy Props Accepted):

Calvin n Hobbes: 1
breadbox: 2
Guy Fawkes: 1
The Green Ripper: 2
Slakko: 2
Illusion: 1
Vynd: 2
Aunt Froot: 1
JT: 1
Idiotboy: 1
ThinMan: 1
Mu-Cow Hunter: 1
A Mean Hat.:1
Everyone else: 0

- ---
Gouda (3 >5 Games): ~I'm *Very* uncertain about this:

Absract Cresent:
Game 1: 9 players, /dev/joe.

Eulsisis:
Game 2: 6 players, indeterminate

Fictionary:
Game 2: 14 players, Alfvaen
Game 3: 15 players, JT
Game 4: 13 players, indeterminate

Ghost:
Game 4: 9 players, Alfvaen
Game 5: ???????
Game 6: 9 players, indeterminate

Mediocraty:
Game 1: 8 players, Slakko
Game 2: 7 players, /dev/joe

Party Chess:
Slakko

GAD:
Game 5: K 2
Game 6: Fortunato

Word Un-association:
Game 2: Morbiund?

YORL:
Game 2: 9 players, MTM
Game 3: indeterminate

which means I've missed one of Alfvaen's wins :/
Thus the scores are currently:
MTM: 1
JT: 1
Everyone else: 0

- ---
Stilton (10 Prop Personal Streak):

ThinMan: 6
Guy Fawkes: 4
Gromit: 2
Illusion: 1
J. M. Bear: 1
Koxvolio: 1
Mu-Cow Hunter: 1
two-star: 1
Ethelred: 1
Fortunato: 1
r-attila the farce: 1

- ---
K 2
tOiCoTT.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:49:29 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Taxes v1.0a

End of cycle taxes are as follows:

*Entities with a Total Wealth of 0 have been excluded.

Name                                   Class     Total   Tax
                                                 Wealth
- ---
Churches
- ---
The Church of Azpiazu                  Church     4      0
The Church of banna                    Church     8      0
The Church of Odo on the Wormhole      Church    86      8
The Church to the Evil Ballot Stuffer  Church     3      0

Parties
- ---
Anti-Voting Preservationist Party      Party     619    61
HARF                                   Party     192    19
MetaMorph                              Party    1095   109
The Razor Boomerangs                   Party     249    24
Vulcan                                 Party     330    33

Players
- ---
404 Not Found                          Player    217    21
A Mean Hat.                            Player      2     0
AJ                                     Player     10     1
Alfvaen                                Player   1094   109
Aunt Froot                             Player    687    68
Calvin N Hobbes                        Player    420    42
/dev/joe                               Player   7648     0
eirs                                   Player    935    93
Gromit                                 Player    557    55
IdiotBoy                               Player    139    13
J. M. Bear                             Player    478    47
JT                                     Player     10     1
K 2                                    Player    324    32
Niccolo Flychuck                       Player    484    48
r-attila the farce                     Player     35     3
Rig R. Mortis                          Player    985    98
Robert Sevin                           Player    593    59
Robin Hood                             Player    788    78
rufus                                  Player    157    15
saaremaa                               Player    420    42
Slakko                                 Player     79     7
smallpox blanket                       Player    631    63
Studge                                 Player      2     0
The Green Ripper                       Player    822    82
ThinMan                                Player    543    54
two-star                               Player    948    94
Vynd                                   Player   1088   108
Wallace                                Player    411    41
Wild Card                              Player  -1221  -123

Societies
- ---
SHEEP                                  Society   128    12
Shell#10                               Society    32     3
The Moral Kiosk                        Society    32     3
The Twits                              Society   381    38

Icicles
- ---
Bascule                                Undead    307    30
breadbox                               Undead    2144  214
Brinjal                                Undead    226    22
Chaos                                  Undead    891    89
Goldenmean                             Undead     74     7
Guy Fawkes                             Undead    3303  330
marsboy                                Undead    982    98
Memo                                   Undead    728    72
mr cwm                                 Undead    307    30
Mr. Lunatic Fringe                     Undead     36     3
Piz                                    Undead    933    93
Publius                                Undead    767    76
Red Barn                               Undead      4     0
this is not a name                     Undead    180    18
Wayne                                  Undead      1     0
Zaknafein Dourden                      Undead    597    59

- --
Commie Tax* is as follows:

*Commie Tax is a Trade mark of the Mean Hat Foundation.
**Due to a wording error all players with a Total Wealth of 0 or less
did not benifit.

- ---
Recipient                         Debtor    Total      Tax
                                            Wealth
- ---
Wayne                             /dev/joe  7648       382
A Mean Hat.                       Guy Fawk  3303       148
Studge                            breadbox  2144        96
Red Barn                          MetaMorp  1095        49
AJ                                Alfvaen   1094        49
JT                                Vynd      1088        49
r-attila the farce                Rig R. M   985        44
Mr. Lunatic Fringe                marsboy    982        44
Goldenmean                        two-star   948        42
Slakko                            eirs       935        42
IdiotBoy                          Piz        933        42
rufus                             Chaos      891        40
this is not a name                The Gree   822        37
404 Not Found                     Robin Ho   788        35
Brinjal                           Publius    767        34
Bascule                           Memo       728        32
mr cwm                            Aunt Fro   687        30
K 2                               smallpox   631        28
Wallace                           Anti-Vot   619        27
Calvin N Hobbes                   Zaknafei   597        26
saaremaa                          Robert S   593        26
J. M. Bear                        Gromit     557        25
Niccolo Flychuck                  ThinMan    543        24

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:46:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Taxes v1.0a

> End of cycle taxes are as follows:

This was done incorrectly.

> *Entities with a Total Wealth of 0 have been excluded.

Actually, this 10% part only applies to those with total wealth greater
than 0 also, by R666 section e part i:

   i) Excluding the winner, all entities with a Total Wealth greater than
   zero shall transfer 10% of eir Total Wealth to the Treasury.

In addition, since Rule 666 does not mention rounding the 10% and 5% bits,
Rule 500 applies:

   Entities may not be broken into fractional pieces, and fractional
   pieces of entities may not be created. When any rule or anything else
   empowered by the rules specifies a fractional number of entities are
   created, destroyed, transferred, or otherwise operated upon, that
   action uses the least integer greater than the fractional number in
   place of the fractional number. This paragraph takes precedence over
   all other rules.

So all these taxes should be rounded *up*, not down.

> Name                                   Class     Total   Tax
>                                                  Wealth
> Parties
> ---
> Anti-Voting Preservationist Party      Party     619    61
> HARF                                   Party     192    19
> MetaMorph                              Party    1095   109
> The Razor Boomerangs                   Party     249    24
> Vulcan                                 Party     330    33

And Wild Card pays no tax.

> Players
> ---
> Wild Card                              Player  -1221  -123

> Commie Tax* is as follows:

Obviously this needs to be redone, both to account for the A$1 changes in
some players' wealth and to round up not down.

/dev/joe

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:48:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3727

At 10:37 AM 11/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Proposal 3727
>A 25 Point Penalty Per Month Sucks
>K 2
>Due: Tue Nov 17 10:37:15 1998
>
>This is a Modest Proposal.
>
>Remove Item 20 "DoppelSlakko" and Item 22 "in Gaol" from Rule 613
>"Winning is pretty harfy (Winning by doing a lot of stuff)" and renumber
>the list.

DoppelSlakko would self-remove if the rule was repealed.

>
>Repeal Rule 1201 (The Illustrious DoppelSlakko).
>
>{{The office of DoppelSlakko is destroyed.}}
> 
- --A Mean Hat.

Crazy French Scotsman -- Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:54:10 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

K 2 wrote:

> I have bad news.
>
> With the passage of proposal 3484 on 24/08/1998  12:32:00 Alfvaen gained
> a winning condition by cheese. E continued to gain that winning
> condition until 09 Nov 1998 5:15:15 when /dev/joe won the cycle by
> cheese.
>

Specifically:
Stilton:
2774, 2776, 2787, 2797, 2798, 2807, 2808, 2842, 2845, 2865
Cheedar:
2915, 3347, 3484
Brie:
No CFCJs
Edam:
Scorekeeper, Illuminatus, Financier, Undead Harfer, Trinket Harfer... etc
Gouda:
Fictionary: Game 2: 14 players, Alfvaen
Ghost: Game 4: 9 players, Alfvaen
???? I know there is one more... ???

K 2

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:25:40 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

> The following represents how far along various players are to getting
> specific types of cheeses:
> 
> Brie (a Duel Win):
> IdiotBoy vs Studge.
> 
> ---
> Edam (5 Offices):
> 
> /dev/joe: 9

This should only be counting offices I have held since my Edam was destroyed
at the beginning of this cycle; i.e., just the 5 I currently hold.  You need
to update this to account for the destructions you (presumably correctly)
logged at the start of this message.  I will put together my own log of
things relevant to this rule and post it.  The rule was created at
Sat, 21 Feb 1998 14:18:10 -0500 (EST), for the purpose of things that
count since the rule was created.

> rufus: 2*

Why the *?

> Gouda (3 >5 Games): ~I'm *Very* uncertain about this:

> Ghost:
> Game 4: 9 players, Alfvaen
> Game 5: ???????
> Game 6: 9 players, indeterminate

I don't see any evidence of another non-duel ghost game between these two
games.  I think Slakko just misnumbered the page with the records of Ghost
games, or was counting one duel (but skipped other ghost duels?).

/dev/joe

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:17:51 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

I forgot to mention that since I had to enter the results for 3567 onwards by
hand some errors may have developed in the stiltons.... my program should be
able to automatically extract the results once the promotor/rule
harfer/tabulator starts adding that information to the proposal archive. Also I
have no mail logs for P3567-3648 I haven't assigned harfy proposals in this
range.... again this can wait until the prop archive has all its bells and
whistles again :)

Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> > Edam (5 Offices):
> >
> > /dev/joe: 9
>

I'm not sure how you slipped through :/

> > rufus: 2*

e was impeached once and thus only has two to eir name.

> Why the *?

K 2

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:18:18 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Taxes v1.0b

End of cycle taxes are as follows:

*Entities with a Total Wealth of 0 have been excluded from this listing.

Entity                 Class    Total    Tax
                                Wealth
- --------------------------------------------
The Church to the Evil Church     3       1
The Church of Azpiazu  Church     4       1
The Church of banna    Church     8       1
The Church of Odo on   Church     86      9
- --
HARF                   Party     192      20
The Razor Boomerangs   Party     249      25
Vulcan                 Party     330      33
Anti-Voting Preservati Party     619      62
MetaMorph              Party     1095    110
- --
Studge                 Player     2       1
A Mean Hat.            Player     2       1
AJ                     Player     10      1
JT                     Player     10      1
r-attila the farce     Player     35      4
Slakko                 Player     79      8
IdiotBoy               Player    139      14
rufus                  Player    157      16
404 Not Found          Player    217      22
K 2                    Player    324      33
Wallace                Player    411      42
Calvin N Hobbes        Player    420      42
saaremaa               Player    420      42
J. M. Bear             Player    478      48
Niccolo Flychuck       Player    484      49
ThinMan                Player    543      55
Gromit                 Player    557      56
Robert Sevin           Player    593      60
smallpox blanket       Player    631      64
Aunt Froot             Player    687      69
Robin Hood             Player    788      79
The Green Ripper       Player    822      83
eirs                   Player    935      94
two-star               Player    948      95
Rig R. Mortis          Player    985      99
Vynd                   Player    1088    109
Alfvaen                Player    1094    110
/dev/joe               Player    7648      0
- --
The Moral Kiosk        Society    32      4
Shell#10               Society    32      4
SHEEP                  Society   128      13
Mad Hatters            Society   165      17
The Twits              Society   381      39
- --
Red Barn               Undead     4       1
Mr. Lunatic Fringe     Undead     36      4
Goldenmean             Undead     74      8
this is not a name     Undead    180      18
Brinjal                Undead    226      23
Bascule                Undead    307      31
mr cwm                 Undead    307      31
Zaknafein Dourden      Undead    597      60
Memo                   Undead    728      73
Publius                Undead    767      77
Chaos                  Undead    891      90
Piz                    Undead    933      94
marsboy                Undead    982      99
breadbox               Undead    2144    215
Guy Fawkes             Undead    3303    331

Commie Tax* is as follows:

*Commie Tax is a Trade mark of the Mean Hat Foundation.
**Due to a wording error all players with a Total Wealth of 0 or less
did not benefit.

Proletariat            Bourgeois  Total   Donation
                                  Wealth
- -----------------------------------------------
Studge                 /dev/joe    7648     383
A Mean Hat.            Guy Fawk    2972     149
Red Barn               breadbox    1929      97
AJ                     MetaMorp     985      50
JT                     Alfvaen      984      50
r-attila the farce     Vynd         979      49
Mr. Lunatic Fringe     Rig R. M     886      45
Goldenmean             marsboy      883      45
Slakko                 two-star     853      43
IdiotBoy               eirs         841      43
rufus                  Piz          839      42
this is not a name     Chaos        801      41
404 Not Found          The Gree     739      37
Brinjal                Robin Ho     709      36
Bascule                Publius      690      35
mr cwm                 Memo         655      33
K 2                    Aunt Fro     618      31
Wallace                smallpox     567      29
Calvin N Hobbes        Anti-Vot     557      28
saaremaa               Zaknafei     537      27
J. M. Bear             Robert S     533      27
Niccolo Flychuck       Gromit       501      26

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:39:08 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

> The following players imdiately get eir Edams back: JT,
> Slakko.
>
> ---
> Edam (5 Offices):
>
> JT: 9
> /dev/joe: 4
> eirs: 3
> Balsamic Dragon: 3
> Guy Fawkes: 3
> Gromit: 2
> Slakko: 8
> Fortunato: 2
> Vynd: 4
> 404 Not Found: 1
> The Green Ripper: 2
> Alfvaen: 2
> A Mean Hat: 2
> K 2: 4
> r-attila the farce: 1
> else...if: 3
> Wild Card: 1
> Calvin n Hobbes: 3
> smallpox blanket: 4
> Studge: 3
> rufus: 2*
> ThinMan: 3
> Niccolo Flychuck: 2
> two-star: 1
> IdiotBoy: 1
> Robin Hood: 1
> Goldenmean: 1
> Red Barn: 1
> Aunt Froot: 1
> Koxvolio: 1
> J. M. Bear: 1
>
> Everybody else: 0
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:10:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

K 2 wrote:

> Gouda:
> Fictionary: Game 2: 14 players, Alfvaen
> Ghost: Game 4: 9 players, Alfvaen
> ???? I know there is one more... ???

Was it viruses?

Gromit.

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:48:22 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

Gromit asked:
> > Gouda:
> > Fictionary: Game 2: 14 players, Alfvaen
> > Ghost: Game 4: 9 players, Alfvaen
> > ???? I know there is one more... ???
> 
> Was it viruses?

That it was.  But he didn't win it until September 22, so e didn't have it
as long as K2 thought.

GAMES (counting party chess and GAD as 3, since they instantly qualify)
1 Slakko: Mediocrity with 8 players, ended March 5, 1998
3 K2: >>>Grab-a-Donkey ended March 25, 1998
1 Alfvaen: Fictionary with 7 players ended March 27, 1998
1 /dev/joe: Viruses with 6 players, ended April 25, 1998
2 /dev/joe: Abstract Crescent with 8 players, ended May 7, 1998
2 Alfvaen: Ghost with 9 players, ended June 2, 1998
4 Slakko: >>>somewhere along in here, won Party Chess, too lazy to look up
1 JT: Fictionary with 6 players, ended August 13, 1998
3 Fortunato: >>>Grab-a-Donkey ended September 3, 1998
3 /dev/joe: Mediocrity with 7 players, ended September 11, 1998
3 Alfvaen: Viruses with 7 players, ended September 22, 1998
1 Gromit: YORL with 8 players, ended September 23, 1998
ALL Goudas were destroyed November 9, 1998, leaving these players with
  leftover subgame points:  JT 1, Gromit 1

in progress: Ghost with 9 players
in progress: Fictionary with 13 players
in progress: Eleusis "Game 2" with 6 players
in progress: Grab-a-Donkey
in progress: Party Chess
in progress?: Word Un-Association, MTM, Slakko, AtP, elseif, and Koxvolio
  were playing, last heard from August 11th when JT left the game.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:55:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote a lot of stuff about
sub-games which I have snipped.:

 And one game of Diplomacy that hasn;t started yet; do we have a third
player?  (Hundred 3.someting)

 (Do not post your identify to the list if you wisg to play; it is
gunboat.}

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:17:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> in progress?: Word Un-Association, MTM, Slakko, AtP, elseif, and Koxvolio
>   were playing, last heard from August 11th when JT left the game.

Perfect. Now I just have to get Slakko to leave or go none voting and I can
win it by default :-)

Gromit.

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:42:05 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

> > JT: 9   [8?]
> > Slakko: 8
> > /dev/joe: 4   [5?]
> > Vynd: 4   [5 with Historian just gained]
> > K 2: 4   [3?]
> > smallpox blanket: 4
> > eirs: 3
> > Balsamic Dragon: 3
> > Guy Fawkes: 3   [2?]
> > Calvin n Hobbes: 3
> > Studge: 3   [2?]
> > ThinMan: 3   [4 with Spelling Exchequer just gained,
                  5 if Wizard was ever non-Capital]
> > else...if: 3   [4?]
> > rufus: 2*   [I had 4, but not knowing about impeachment]
> > Gromit: 2   [1?]
> > Fortunato: 2   [1?]
> > The Green Ripper: 2
> > Alfvaen: 2
> > A Mean Hat: 2
> > Niccolo Flychuck: 2   [3?]
> > 404 Not Found: 1
> > r-attila the farce: 1
> > Wild Card: 1
> > two-star: 1
> > IdiotBoy: 1
> > Robin Hood: 1
> > Goldenmean: 1   [0?]
> > Red Barn: 1   [0?]
> > Aunt Froot: 1   [0?]
> > Koxvolio: 1
> > J. M. Bear: 1
> > Everybody else: 0   [saaremaa 2?]

I did up an attempt at a log of offices from Slakko's office archive, and
some checking email archives, but I am missing:

* The dates players who held Swinger offices back before they were
converted into non-offices on August 31, except for the very latest ones
* The dates players were impeached from any office

By my count, I, Alfvaen, Gromit, JT, K 2, Slakko, and breadbox had goudas
at the end of the cycle, JT, Slakko, and I immediately got new ones, and
Vynd and maybe ThinMan have gotten goudas since then.

/dev/joe

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:27:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> 
> 
> Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
> 
> > in progress?: Word Un-Association, MTM, Slakko, AtP, elseif, and Koxvolio
> >   were playing, last heard from August 11th when JT left the game.
> 
> Perfect. Now I just have to get Slakko to leave or go none voting and I can
> win it by default :-)

No - it was declared moribund.

- -- 
Duncan C. Richer aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother | Queens' College
http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/    Ackanomic     | U. of Cambridge
Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator  | 2nd Year PhD(PMa)

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:23:19 -0500 (EST)
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3716

[snip]
>{{Vynd, 
Anyone remember the Vulcan coup?

>Alfvaen, K 2,
>IdiotBoy, 
Or the Underworld strike?*

>Wild Card, two-star and
>
>Slakko
Or the dispensations** list?

>gain the title "Defender Against Major Nuisances".}}

smallpox blanket,
the voice of raisons.

<;-)>
*I don't, but I've read about it.
**I think that was what it was called.
</;-)>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:47:59 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3716

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Gavin M. Doig wrote:

> [snip]
> >{{Vynd, 
> Anyone remember the Vulcan coup?
> 
> >Alfvaen, K 2,
> >IdiotBoy, 
> Or the Underworld strike?*
> 
> >Wild Card, two-star and
> >
> >Slakko
> Or the dispensations** list?
> 
> >gain the title "Defender Against Major Nuisances".}}
> 
> smallpox blanket,
> the voice of raisons.
> 
> 
> <;-)>
> *I don't, but I've read about it.
> **I think that was what it was called.
> </;-)>
> 

To which I say, what-ever. Like this proposal would do anything as bad as
the aforementioned scams. It certainly isn't even in the same league as
the proposal that will give that stupid org that I can't remember the name
of control over the game. You ask if anyone remembers the Vulcan
dictatorship. Well obviously I didn't, or I would either: A) Be a member
of the organization that is trying to take over ;) , or B) Have stopped
this whole business long before it started. If you want to bring up
people's actions from over a year ago, you might want to focus on
/dev/joe, who is well on his way to becoming dictator for a second time,
and under very similar circumstances.

However, he and his friends, who I guess include smallpox blanket here,
can still be stopped. All you have to do to prevent their take over from
working is to turn your rebelliousness characteristic on. Once we revolt,
everyone can vote on all the proposals that are out there right now. You
can vote against the proposal that will give these jokers a dictatorship
*and* against the proposal smallpox blanket finds so offensive. I know
I will.

Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:45:42 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Cheesy things

Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> > > JT: 9   [8?]

is the Trinket Harfer (Since: 15/May/98)
is the Speaker (Since: 05/Aug/98)
is the Runemaker (Since: 22/Sep/98)
is the Registar (Since: 25/Jul/98)
is the President (Since: 16/Sep/98)
is the Postmaster (Since: 04/Nov/98)
is a Justice (Since: 19/Sep/98)
is the Herald (Since: 10/May/98)
is a Grey Councilor (Since: 31/Aug/98)

> > > Slakko: 8

> > > /dev/joe: 4   [5?]

     is the Tabulator (Since: 19/Oct/98)
     is a Senator in seat /dev/senate3 (Since: 21/Aug/96)
     is the Promotor (Since: 16/Oct/98)
     is a Justice (Since: 05/Apr/98)

>
> > > Vynd: 4   [5 with Historian just gained]
> > > K 2: 4   [3?]

     is the Treasure-Harfer (Since: 23/Mar/98)
     is the Org-Harfer (Since: 01/May/98)
     is the Financier (Since: 08/May/98)
     is the DoppelSlakko

> > > smallpox blanket: 4
> > > eirs: 3
> > > Balsamic Dragon: 3
> > > Guy Fawkes: 3   [2?]

Oops

> > > Calvin n Hobbes: 3
> > > Studge: 3   [2?]

Ooops Again

> > > ThinMan: 3   [4 with Spelling Exchequer just gained,
>                   5 if Wizard was ever non-Capital]

4 its only ever been capital as fas as I know

> > > else...if: 3   [4?]

oops again.

> > > rufus: 2*   [I had 4, but not knowing about impeachment]

e was impeached by the prez on 11.5.98 from the office of Trinket
Harfer.

is a Grey Councilor (Since: 28/Aug/98)
is the CSRR (Since: 08/Sep/98)
with the trinket harfer that makes 3.... where is # 4?

> > > Gromit: 2   [1?]

is a Justice (Since: 25/May/98)
is a Grey Councilor (Since: 09/Nov/98)

> > > Fortunato: 2   [1?]

Oops.

> > > The Green Ripper: 2
> > > Alfvaen: 2
> > > A Mean Hat: 2
> > > Niccolo Flychuck: 2   [3?]

I have em a Archealogist and AckaPhysicist only

> > > 404 Not Found: 1
> > > r-attila the farce: 1
> > > Wild Card: 1
> > > two-star: 1
> > > IdiotBoy: 1
> > > Robin Hood: 1
> > > Goldenmean: 1   [0?]

Swinger

> > > Red Barn: 1   [0?]

Swinger

> > > Aunt Froot: 1   [0?]

Swinger

>
> > > Koxvolio: 1

Swinger

> > > J. M. Bear: 1

Swinger

> > > Everybody else: 0   [saaremaa 2?]

Oops.

> I did up an attempt at a log of offices from Slakko's office archive, and
> some checking email archives, but I am missing:
>
> * The dates players who held Swinger offices back before they were
> converted into non-offices on August 31, except for the very latest ones

I used the party chess move archive.

> * The dates players were impeached from any office

breadbox and rufus are the only players I remember being impeached by a
prez.

> By my count, I, Alfvaen, Gromit, JT, K 2, Slakko, and breadbox had goudas
> at the end of the cycle, JT, Slakko, and I immediately got new ones, and

I can't find your 5th office....

>
> Vynd and maybe ThinMan have gotten goudas since then.

> /dev/joe

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