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acka-research-digest     Sunday, October 25 1998     Volume 03 : Number 250

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 06:46:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Comments on Current Proposals

On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, JT wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
> >> Slakko, is there any way that this could be done such that you don't feel
> >> it would add excessive burden to you?   It came out of discussions I had
> >> with Rambo R Minuteman about P3676.  He felt Party Chess should have
> >> greater rewards because it incurred a greater expense on the players.  We
> >> then discussed it a bit and came up with this idea for lowering the
> >> expense on the players.  It's (in my mind) not much more effort than I
> >> need to currently track for things like the ackanomicon (IE, has it been
> >> exercised this month or not for each player)
> >
> >Well, in addition to forcing me to check whether or not someone has bought
> >a piece this month, it forces me to keep track of the total material value
> >of each player's pieces.  Things like Locusts can really screw that up,
> >and I don't want to have to keep track of any more Party Chess info than I
> >already do, thank you.
> 
> Okay.. I understand why you believe the burden would be more than you
> want.   You did not however answer my first query, which was if you could
> think of any way to make this kind of idea work without imposing this kind
> of burden on you?   I'm certainly willing to retract mine if there is
> another way to achieve that type of result.

Why not allow a player to get a free piece when they place their King?
That makes it a compensation for getting checkmated, and it means it is
easy for me to track.

- -- 
Duncan C. Richer aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother | Queens' College
http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/    Ackanomic     | U. of Cambridge
Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator  | 2nd Year PhD(PMa)

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:20:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Plumb <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3694

On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> > > > Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do.  Touch the puppet head.
> 
> > > This would be more effective off of acka-research.
> 
> > Ah yes. But this chiding would be more effective if it named the player
> > who sent this to acka-research in the first place.
> 
> Sorry.  It was The Green Ripper, who hid this inamongst proposal commentary,
> and on the wrong list.

From R207:
"A player with a Puppet Head may get rid of it by saying "Memo to myself:
Do the dumb things I gotta do. Touch the puppet head." [They Might Be
Giants Put Your Hand Inside The Puppet Head They Might Be Giants ] in a
public message."

I try to do as much as possible on acka-research; I was under the 
impression that it is a public forum, and that posting a specific bit of
text (Annoyingly hidden or no) is not a public action.

(For once, I actually looked this up *before* posting.)

- -The Green Ripper

Atheist: God's way of mocking the faithful. 

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:37:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3664 accepted

You idiots...

>>Proposal 3664
>>DNPC
>>Alfvaen
>>Amend Rule 540.2, "Basic Player Characteristics", ...
>>when
>>the scores are rerolled the Player shall pay the Basic Harfer Fee.
>>MOMBIE
>>

What is the Basic Harfer Fee?

- --A Mean Hat.
Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master -- Art Thief -- Warrior Caste -- Crazy
French Scotsman -- Really Weird

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:02:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3664 accepted

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:

> You idiots...

We are all Idiots and I am your King.

IB
waking a slumbering giant?

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:10:33 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Comments on Current Proposals

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>> Okay.. I understand why you believe the burden would be more than you
>> want.   You did not however answer my first query, which was if you could
>> think of any way to make this kind of idea work without imposing this kind
>> of burden on you?   I'm certainly willing to retract mine if there is
>> another way to achieve that type of result.
>
>Why not allow a player to get a free piece when they place their King?
>That makes it a compensation for getting checkmated, and it means it is
>easy for me to track.

Gyah.  I give A$5 to Slakko for not retracting the proposal while we were
discussing it and apologize to him.

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:25:37 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Comments on Current Proposals

I give all my tradeable entities to JT.

K 2

JT wrote:

> Gyah.  I give A$5 to Slakko for not retracting the proposal while we were
> discussing it and apologize to him.
>
> -

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:30:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3697

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 [email-masked] wrote:

> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> [I don't think it's any secret that I would like to see rule 1060
> repealed. Wild Card however, continually claims e will start one up.
> This puts a time limit on this. If it's still lying useless next year
> then it would be repealed.]

 Fine vote for this.  I agree with this.  If I can't get one working by
then then that is fine.
 
- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:40:47 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3671 rejected

> Proposal 3671
> 
> Votes: 15/23 (8 YES votes): Quorum met
> Yes votes: 8/16: proposal rejected
> 
> Tammany Bribes:
> JT A$25 no
> No:
>   Leather Artifact     (Giant Objectionable Potato)
>   risE                 (Klingon)
>   Alfvaen              (MetaMorph)
>   **** Bonus Vote (JT) ****
>   Slakko               (SPAM)
>   /dev/joe             (Vulcan)
>   Rex Mundi            (Klingon)
>   JT                   (The Razor Boomerangs)

Obviously, Tammany also voted NO on this proposal.
Methinks the bot has a problem with Tammany voting no. :-\

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:56:25 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Comments on Current Proposals

JT wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, K 2 wrote:
> >I don't give all my tradeable entities to JT on research.
>
> I thank K 2 kindly for the offer that doesn't occur.
> I switch the list to ackanomic instead of acka-research.
> I donate A$1 to the twits.
>
> I give A$5 to Slakko for not retracting the proposal while we were
> discussing it and apologize to him for the extra work.
>
> --JT

none for me?

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:35:31 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Treasure

accurate
beat
boiled
change
conduct
correct
cover
cycle
direct
dressing
green
head
hot
new
plaster
revolution
rhythm
right
sapphire
top
turn
warm

You never said we had to use them in a sentance.

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:44:29 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Treasure (for real this time)

accurate
beat
boiled
change
conduct
correct
cover
cycle
direct
dressing
green
head
hot
new
plaster
revolution
rhythm
right
sapphire
top
turn
warm

You never said we had to use them in a sentance.

- --JT

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[ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:45:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Plumb <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Burial

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> I creat a trinket worth A$30 called "Hubert" with description "It is
> green" and bury it as a treasure.

Forgery!  Forgery!

(In any case, I think the creation fails.)

> 
> The map is as follows:
> 
> This treasure will be found by the first player to post a message to
> acka-research containing all the following words except in alphabetical
> order:
> 
> sapphire
> green
> new
> boiled
> hot
> warm
> accurate
> right
> correct
> change
> turn
> revolution
> cycle
> rhythm
> beat
> conduct
> direct
> head
> top
> cover
> plaster
> dressing
> 
> 
> 
> Rambo.
> 
> --
> Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
> http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
> AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
> Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.
> 
> 
> 

- -The Green Ripper

Sex on television can't hurt you unless you fall off. 

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:47:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Burial

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> I note that this didn't occur because I can't create the trinket Hubert
> because it's a former player name. I creat a trinket worth A$30 called
> Hubertzzzz description "It is green" and bury it with the following map:
> 
> "This treasure will be found by the first player to post a message to
> acka-research containing all the following words except in alphabetical
> order:
> 
> accurate
> beat
> boiled
> change
> conduct
> correct
> cover
> cycle
> direct
> dressing"
> head
> hot
> green
> new
> plaster
> revolution
> right
> rhythm
> sapphire
> top
> turn
> warm
> 

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:52:07 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3694

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Eric Plumb wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:
>
>> > > > Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do.  Touch the puppet head.
>> 
>> > > This would be more effective off of acka-research.
>> 
>> > Ah yes. But this chiding would be more effective if it named the player
>> > who sent this to acka-research in the first place.
>> 
>> Sorry.  It was The Green Ripper, who hid this inamongst proposal commentary,
>> and on the wrong list.
>
>>From R207:
>"A player with a Puppet Head may get rid of it by saying "Memo to myself:
>Do the dumb things I gotta do. Touch the puppet head." [They Might Be
>Giants Put Your Hand Inside The Puppet Head They Might Be Giants ] in a
>public message."
>
>I try to do as much as possible on acka-research; I was under the 
>impression that it is a public forum, and that posting a specific bit of
>text (Annoyingly hidden or no) is not a public action.

It is in fact a public forum (according to the Postal Code).  However, it
cannot be used for any game action.   Touching a Puppet head would be an
action which affected the game state, and thus (since no player is
required to be subscribed to acka-research, there is no guarentee that
the speaker or registrar would know that you had performed this action)
probably isn't eligible to be done there.  Feel free to CFJ it.

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:47:10 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3697

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 [email-masked] wrote:

> Proposal 3697
> Let's try a different tack then
> Rambo R Minuteman
> Due: Sun Nov  1 18:45:36 1998
> 
> 
> This is a modest proposal.
> 
> [I don't think it's any secret that I would like to see rule 1060
> repealed. Wild Card however, continually claims e will start one up.
> This puts a time limit on this. If it's still lying useless next year
> then it would be repealed.]
> 
> Create a new rule numbered 1061 entitled "Should I stay or Should I go?"
> reading as follows.

I don't quite understand the point of this. If Rule 1060 isn't being used,
and yet Acka doesn't want to repeal it, all that means is we have a little
bit more clutter in the Rules. Which is bad, in a way, but all this new
peoposal would do is *add* to the clutter...

Vynd

[email-masked]

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