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acka-research-digest    Wednesday, August 26 1998    Volume 03 : Number 200

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:49:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3462

On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Niccolo Flychuck wrote:
> 
> > Even Tammany or Bonus Votes alone are more interesting than this
> > suggestion, and not too complex as they are.
> > Tammany+Bonus Votes give a maximum of 5 non-player votes per proposal,
> > putting aside the number of Parties. Your system would give way too many
> > non-player votes per proposal.
> 
> Ummm, no.  They are not non-player votes - each is associated with a
Semantics. They are non-player votes in the same way that Bonus Votes are
non-player votes. Bonus votes are also associated with the palyers who
submitted them, and tammany is loosely associated with the set of players
who gave the higher bribe.  Those votes are in addition to the one vote
each player gets.
Voting systems are about balance, whether this balance is implicit or
explicit is of little import. Bonus Votes and Tammany have reasonable
limitations and balance. Unlimited extra votes are not balanced.

Niccolo Flychuck
> particular player.  The system is basically a question of "how strongly
> do you care aboutthis issue?" - care a little and you just vote normally,
> care a lot and you have to tell everyone and spend some money.  It's still
> your vote, it is just that it counts for 2.
> 
> - -- 
> Duncan C. "" Richer aka
> Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
> Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
> Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator
> 
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> End of acka-research-digest V3 #199
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 02:10:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3462

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Niccolo Flychuck wrote:
> > 
> > > Even Tammany or Bonus Votes alone are more interesting than this
> > > suggestion, and not too complex as they are.
> > > Tammany+Bonus Votes give a maximum of 5 non-player votes per proposal,
> > > putting aside the number of Parties. Your system would give way too many
> > > non-player votes per proposal.
> > 
> > Ummm, no.  They are not non-player votes - each is associated with a
> Semantics. They are non-player votes in the same way that Bonus Votes are
> non-player votes. Bonus votes are also associated with the palyers who
> submitted them, and tammany is loosely associated with the set of players
> who gave the higher bribe.  Those votes are in addition to the one vote
> each player gets.
> Voting systems are about balance, whether this balance is implicit or
> explicit is of little import. Bonus Votes and Tammany have reasonable
> limitations and balance. Unlimited extra votes are not balanced.

I don't see what the problem is.  The limit is one per person.  The new
system would not reduce the minimum conspiracy size, in fact because it
would allow only one avenue for doubling your vote strength it might
increase that size.  If 10 people all want to spend A$100 on a proposal to
ensure it passes, then fine by me - I see no reason why only 5 of them
should be allowed to do so.  If they have to do it publicly, then any
sufficiently large opposition group will see what is going on, and choose
to spend money itself if it is deemed necessary to counteract the
proposal.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:25:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3472

JT wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, nomicbot wrote:
> >{{[Defining Net Worth]}}
> >Net Worth is a characteristic possessed by all tradeable entities which
>

> Umm. what happens when a player has negative A$ and no trinkets?  I would
> think this should make their net worth negative, but this wouldn't allow
> that.

fortunately Players aren't Tradeable entities.

> Also, you might now be required to track each A$ seperately to track the
> Net Worth of that A$, which might be a bad thing.

Only if the rules altered a particular A$'s net worth - which they don't
can't do at the moment; 'course if the rules were change to make each
Tradeable entity's net worth equal to eir most recent auction price I
would have to track MTM's aquastition separately :).

> >If the amount of A$s in circulation plus sum of the Net Worth of all
> >Tradeable Entities exceeded the amount in the Treasury at the time this
> >winner was declared, the following shall occur: 20% (round down) of each
> >Entity's Total Wealth is owed to the Treasury. The winner shall owe only
> >10% (round down), however.
>
> This tromps all over another proposal in the queue you realize :)

but that pre-supposes that the other passes... I'm glad you have faith
in my proposals :)

I should have made it compatible tho... what the heck - I donate 1A$ to
the twits; in celebration of my twitiness; I DON'T retract it :)

K 2

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:25:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Acka: Proposal 3473]

Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> > Having exhasted my french I donate A$1 to the twits.
> > The problem is this proposal and the one after it are dependent on one
> > another - retract one retract the other.....
>
> Are you doing this, or not?
>

as yet - not; maybe later :)

K 2

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:25:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3479

Brian Raiter wrote:

> > Proposal 3479
> > Just what are you hiding /dev/joe?
> > K 2 (Kelly Kelly)
> >
> > This is Aardvark is a Modest Proposal.
>
> (What is up with all these inoperative sentences being added to
> proposals these days, anyway?)

I'm gearing up to change the designations to something silly :)I think section
VIII of Rule 340  still makes this a modest proposal tho...

> > {{[It just occurred to me that at some time in the past a whole heap of
> > rules could have been hidden by eir own precedence within the rule set;
> > Ackanomic could be a completely different game to what we think it is.
> > Are those "Promoter Errors" or something much more sinister? So I
> > figure, if we already have so many hidden rules, why not one more? :)
> > ]}}
>
> This basic idea has been proposed at least once before. snowgod, I
> believe it was, once submitted a proposal that would have required
> Ackanomic to maintain a campaign of taking over other Nomics, and this
> proposal required all traces of itself to be removed from the web
> pages. I don't remember its number, but it's in the archives, since it
> didn't pass.

Yes, but how many of "this type of proposal" did pass in the past?

{{All players shall forget that this proposal passed}}

> > Amend rule 42 (The Oldest Rule in the Book) to read in full:
> >
> > I. The Cover up
> > a) The proposal (including its number, title, author and any other
> > associated text) which added this text to this rule shall be
> > represented by "" in the proposal archive and its absence shall be
> > attributed to "Promoter Error".
>
> Removing the *number* is going a bit far, don't you think?
>
> > Any messages used to distribute or report the results of the
> > proposal shall be removed from the mail archives if possible.
>
> Oh, come on. It's bad enough having to diddle with the proposal
> archive (which I consider sacrosanct), but I'd really rather you
> didn't make me edit the mail archives!

Don't deny it - you've done it before - you can't fool me :)

K 2

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:25:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: End of Cycle

JT wrote:

> b) All Chartreuse Goose Eggs, Right Hand Grapefruit, and unworn Agenda
>    Hats (and Eggplants associated with them) are destroyed.

Just about everyone had a goose egg - and they are all gone now...
likewise else...if can kiss goodbye to eir RHG.

> e) End of Cycle Taxes

Ice              Total Wealth     Tax
Astro                760          152
Ayla                 538          107
Bascule              383           76
Brinjal              282           56
Chaos               1113          222
Crackfoo             220           44
Enigma               727          145
Guy Fawkes          4141          828
Horny Protoceratops  802          160
Illusion             876          175
Karma                123           24
mr cwm               508          101
Mr. Lunatic Fringe    44            8
Publius              936          187
saaremaa             224           44
this is not a name   224           44
Tom Kitten           721          144
UglyBigNose          745          149
Societies
Mad Hatters          183           36
SHEEP                160           32
Shell#10              40            8
The Moral Kiosk       40            8
The Twits            159           31
Players
867-5309              77           15
Alfvaen             1540          308
Attila the Pun       927          185
breadbox            2037          407
Calvin N Hobbes      521          104
/dev/joe             504           50**
else…if              204           40
Ethelred             639          127
Fortunato            321           64
Goldenmean            92           18
IbiotBoy             438           87
J. M. Bear           305           61
Joe Java             217           43
JT                   655          131
K 2                 1020          204
Koxvolio             186           37
Memo                 900          180
Mr. Tambourine Man   484           96
Niccolo Flychuck     511          102
Piz                  959          191
Rex Mundi            595          119
Rig R. Mortis        909          181
Robin Hood           955          191
rufus                 94           18
Slakko               804          160
Studge               939          187
ThinMan             1256          251
Tin Observer         894          178
two-star             946          189
Vynd                 974          194
Wild Card             -3           -1 ????
Zaknafein Dourden    746         149
Party
HARF                 240          48
MetaMorph           1368         273
The Razor Boomerangs 311         62
Vulcan               412         82
Church
The Church of Azpiazu 5           1
The Church of banna   9           1
The Church of Odo
on the Wormhole     114          22

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:25:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: End of Cycle

Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> > c) /dev/joe is given the title 'Winner of the Cycle' and is given a Right-
> >    Handed Grapefruit and a Badge of Glory.
>
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.
> I make Right-Handed Grapefruit Juice.

Hey I had to count them. Just as well you didn't make any more, I don't have
that many fingers.

> Anyway, I'll be sending a test message out to the [email-masked]
> mailing list soon.  All senators, please make sure you are subscribed to
> this list.

when you have a list i'll collect and post it on then moon page I created some
time ago....

> /dev/joe
> Sage o' Doe Gas

'Bout time someone won that way :)

k 2

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:25:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3486

Tom Walmsley wrote:

> >Create a new rule called "Government Type: Proportional Representation"
> >numbered 320.5 reading as follows:
> >
> >"
> >When Fundamentalism is the Proto-Government the OiCoRT should also select
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Ack!! Damn sloppy cut and pastes! I donate A$1 to the twits. I retract
> proposal 3486. Before I resubmit though, does anyone else have any other
> comments on this? I'll probably be resubmitting some time tomorrow otherwise.
>
> MTM.
>

I liked the concept but some of the suggested governments were ummm....

K 2

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:25:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Eleusis Game 1 - Round 2 - 867-5309's play

Jenny wrote:

> I proxy my approval to [...] the AVPP [...]

Nope.

> I gift an Otzma Card Lay Off! to K 2.

Ta.

> I gift the trinket known as "$100" to Slakko; a memento of failed campaign
> promises.

> I aim my Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really at
> IdiotBoy, press the red button marked "ENERGIZE," and supply the anagram
> "Oy, I Bi Bot." (This is what I get for perusing the P/E page.)

IdiotBoy -> Oy, I Bi Bot ????? where's the D?

> I read the currently open page of my Spell Book of Chorg, if I can.

Page 8 was read some time around 12/08/1998  2:35:41, so you can :)

> I bury all my tradeable entities as a Treasure with a map resembling the
> following:  "This Treasure shall be found by the player whose every public
> message during 867-5309's absence satisfies the conditions for being Hosed
> by a BWG Laser; or, e can transfer A$79 to 867-5309 for each message which
> does not meet those criteria."

Net Value of this treasure ~ A$868 ~ 10 public messages not to metion
the
otzma cards (OFF, OGF, OSYI, OTS ) and gadgets (RBBT and SBoC).

While I'm here since e didn't exclude eir SBoC in the burial action e no
longer has it to give to JT....

K 2

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:25:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 644 (TRUE)

Duncan Richer wrote:

> 867-5309 has ruled this TRUE without reasoning.
>
> Call for Judgement 644 - August 22, 1998
> Subject: Happy Number Timing
> Initiator: Alfvaen (sent 22 Aug 1998, 00:04 Acka)
> Judge: 867-5309 (selected 22 Aug 1998, 04:21 Acka)
> Verdict: TRUE
>
> Statement:
>
> The Happy Number is 105.
>

Vile deceiver. I am using my powers as financier to strip Alfvaen of the
automatic sculpture e has in the thread that no longer exists :)

> Judge's Reasoning:
>
> [none]

  I would have preferred some reasoning - even if only to say "I agree
completely with the initiator and gift em all my tradable entities".

K 2

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:16:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3488

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, nomicbot wrote:
>Proposal 3488
>Let's all go point swimming
>else...if (Henry Towsner)
>	Create a new rule reading as delimited by TIMEDELAY
>
>TIMEDELAY
>	The following HEREGOESNOTHING-delimited text will not do anything
>until two weeks from when this rule is created, at which point it will take
>effect.

Something just occured to me.  What happens to all of those proposals in
the queue who were submitted before the 2 weeks expire, but the voting
period expires after the time-delay takes effect?  It would seem as if
noone will gain any points for those proposals period (IE, that they would
have their kick-in set to 0 for all players).  It might have been better
to have included some wording forcing those proposals to have at least a 1
point kick-in or specifying it somehow.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:25:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Eleusis Game 1 - Round 2 - 867-5309's play

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, K2 wrote:
>IdiotBoy -> Oy, I Bi Bot ????? where's the D?

Heh.. I missed that as well.. thank you.  He was not infact renamed Oy, I
Bi Bot.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:36:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 646 (FALSE)

Duncan Richer wrote:

> JT has judged this one FALSE.

> Call for Judgement 646 - August 24, 1998
> Subject: Location of the Chartreuse Goose
> Initiator: Tom Walmsley (sent 24 August 1998 16:22 Acka)
> Judge: JT (selected 24 August 1998 17:06 Acka)
> Judgement: FALSE
>
> Statement:
> The Chartreuse Goose is Somewhere Else.
>
> Judge's Reasoning:
> Looking through the archives, provides the following information.
> On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:41:40 -0400 (EDT), Alfvaen returned the judgement
> of FALSE on CFJ 630, giving the Chartreuse Goose to /dev/joe.
> On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:43:47 -0400 (EDT), Rex Mundi read from the
> Ackanomicon and read the page 'Ancient One' which gave him the Goose.

Not that it makes any difference to the ruling but on 02 Aug 1998 13:29:33
Vynd ruled MTM's PW-CFJ FALSE.

K 2

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:36:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Offices: Bad Rhyme

I accordance with my election promises I am setting the following player's
houses on fire:
Rig R. Mortis
Mr. Tambourine Man
JT & EBS
867-5309 (I'm sure I'm doing this even if e is On Vacation)

I would ask the map harfer to duly note this Fact :)

K 2

K2 wrote:

> Tom Walmsley wrote:
>
> > At 05:52 21/08/98 -0400, you wrote:
> > >> For dungeone master there were two nominees:
> > >>
> > >> Mr. Tambourine Man
> > >> K 2
> > >
> > >Okay, we've only just created the need for this Office, so we, the
> > >voting populace, are wanting for criteria regarding who to vote for.
> > >I'd like to see a few words from each candidate on why we should vote
> > >for em. In rhyme.
> >
> > I'd love to, really I would, but I'm going away for a couple of days in
> > about half an hour's time. So, unfortunately, I don't have the time :-).
>
> Ha! The opposition admits its flaw!
> Eir time is taxed. Show em the door.
> When evil monsters are seen to lurk,
> The Dungeon Master must go berserk.
> Not cower away in some forgotten land
> with both eir heads implanted in the sand.
>
> As Dungeon Master I will provide
> to every player who takes my side
> uncommon wisdom and intelligence
> and never shall I show em negligence.
> A firm hand shall I show to villains
> and to bribe I'll not cost billions.
>
> In summary, it must be said,
> the choice is clear, it's easily read.
> K 2's the one you all should choose.
> A vote for em just can not lose.
> E'll give to you, your very hearts desire;
> Unelected - your house on fire.
>
> K 2
>
> > MTM.

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:36:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Retractions?

Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 1. It looks like I missed Attila the Pun's retraction of P3411, so e had
> two points less at the end of Cycle 23, as well as at the end of the last
> Bond Cycle, so that's A$4 less.  Sorry.

Bad Alfvaen.

> 2. Did K 2 ever retract his batch of verbless blueprint-referencing
> Proposals?  I don't have a record of that in my pointlogs either.

yes. On or about the 17 Aug 1998 09:38:08 - let me know how this effects
things.

> 3. For that matter, has K 2 retracted eir rulenumberless Proposal and
> its Siamese twin either?

Nope.

> --
> --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
> Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb
> Current Book--S.M. Stirling:Marching Through Georgia
> About sixty codfish eggs will make a quarter pound of very fizzy jelly.

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:43:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Something odd.

Why is my mind screeming SCAM?

K 2

JT wrote:

> I hope you will all pardon me for this, and I know it will seem odd, but
> I actually have a method for my madness.
>
> I grab Red Barn's Donkey.
>
> (since neither he nor I are in a game of GAD, I cannot see that this has
> any game effect, but I do it anyway :)
>

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:47:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 646 (FALSE)

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, K2 wrote:
>Not that it makes any difference to the ruling but on 02 Aug 1998 13:29:33
>Vynd ruled MTM's PW-CFJ FALSE.

Ahhh.. I missed that when I was searching.   All I needed to do though was
show that the Goose wasn't in the possession of /dev/joe however, and I
did do that.  Thanks.  And now of course IdiotBoy has the goose from his
reading of the ackanomicon.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:51:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Offices: Bad Rhyme

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, K2 wrote:
>I accordance with my election promises I am setting the following player's
>houses on fire:
>JT & EBS

Since setting my house on fire isn't mandated by the rules, neither is
extinguishing the fire, which I do while remaining at the AIGR and calling
down rain from the heavens (another non-regulated act) to extinguish the
fire that is burning in my house.

>I would ask the map harfer to duly note this Fact :)

I ask the Map Harfer to duly note the fact that my house is not burning.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:51:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3488

>Something just occured to me.  What happens to all of those proposals in
>the queue who were submitted before the 2 weeks expire, but the voting
>period expires after the time-delay takes effect?  It would seem as if
>noone will gain any points for those proposals period (IE, that they would
>have their kick-in set to 0 for all players).  It might have been better
>to have included some wording forcing those proposals to have at least a 1
>point kick-in or specifying it somehow.
	You're probably right, but it's not a huge problem, and it's
already submitted, so I won't worry about it.

- --
- -Henry Towsner

	<[email-masked]>

	Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and
enjoy it.
		-Logan Pearsall Smith

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:53:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Something odd.

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, K2 wrote:
>Why is my mind screeming SCAM?

I swear on my grave (well, my future grave I guess) that there is no
attempt at a scam here, merely something odd.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:45:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Eleusis Game 1 - Round 2 - 867-5309's play

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, JT wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, K2 wrote:
> >IdiotBoy -> Oy, I Bi Bot ????? where's the D?
> 
> Heh.. I missed that as well.. thank you.  He was not infact renamed Oy, I
> Bi Bot.
> 

I didn't.. but I did miss the message that changed my name, so I didn't
know where to complain.

IB

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:03:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 646 (FALSE)

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, JT wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, K2 wrote:
> >Not that it makes any difference to the ruling but on 02 Aug 1998 13:29:33
> >Vynd ruled MTM's PW-CFJ FALSE.
> 
> Ahhh.. I missed that when I was searching.   All I needed to do though was
> show that the Goose wasn't in the possession of /dev/joe however, and I
> did do that.  Thanks.  And now of course IdiotBoy has the goose from his
> reading of the ackanomicon.
> 

If you've got a problem, yo, I'll solve it.

IB

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:23:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Eleusis Game 1 - Round 2 - 867-5309's play

>> I aim my Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really at
>> IdiotBoy, press the red button marked "ENERGIZE," and supply the anagram
>> "Oy, I Bi Bot." (This is what I get for perusing the P/E page.)
> 
> IdiotBoy -> Oy, I Bi Bot ????? where's the D?

DOH!

(sigh) Excuse me, I have a bunch of files I need to go edit.

breadbox

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:59:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Retractions?

> > 2. Did K 2 ever retract his batch of verbless blueprint-referencing
> > Proposals?  I don't have a record of that in my pointlogs either.

> yes. On or about the 17 Aug 1998 09:38:08 - let me know how this effects
> things.

Well, it seems that there were eight retractions there, so 16 points less
for you, and thus A$16 less on those Fortnightly Dividends and A$16 less
at the end of the Cycle.

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Current Book--S.M. Stirling:Marching Through Georgia
You will not swallow every sugar-rock you find.  --billbill

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