Subject: acka-research-digest V3 #121
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acka-research-digest      Thursday, June 4 1998      Volume 03 : Number 121

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 03:40:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Prop

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> > > You'd have to say what the crime was called :-).
> > 
> > No I wouldn't - I specified the action was illegal, therefore by Rule 701
> > it is the Crime of Illegal Action.
> 
> Now Slakko, last time I asked you this you denied, but I refuse to believe
> you. You really have memorised every rule, haven't you?

If that was the case I wouldn't make so many mistakes as Chess-Umpire :-(
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 05:03:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Prop

> > occurred, was called The Gingham Wearer, if such a player exists.  Failure
> > to do so makes the public message mentioning the scam illegal.
> > ATTRIB
>
> You'd have to say what the crime was called :-).
>
> MTM.

  Rule 701: To perform an action specified by the Rules to be Illegal is the
Crime of Illegal Action

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 05:04:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Actions

Eric Plumb wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>
> > Fails.  Wait 3 days, then try again.
>
> On the other hand, e could just use the Silver Spaceship which was
> recently (I don't know or care exactly when) created in eir possession by
> the Order of the Razor Boomerangs.  Financier, take note.  (Unless I'm
> wrong, then ignore. :-)

It won't be completed until 4 Jun 1998 02:40:04.

>Mon, 01 Jun 1998 02:40:04 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Eric Plumb <[email-masked]>
>I suggest that the Order of the Razor Boomerang begin construction of a
>Silver Spaceship, to be created in the possession of JT.

>
>
> Hey, you asked for it, JT.  Meet you on Titan then.
>
> (Good work BTW.)
>
> - 867-5309, who's Learned eir Lesson alright, but only once
>
> When I want your opinion, I'll read your entrails.

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:00:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alexandre Owen Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction that entity!

The Good Food Guide wrote:
> 
> >> I bid Hubert for K2 (unless Hubert gets there first)
> >
> >Hubert who? :-)
> >
> >- 867-5309
> 
> Hey! When did that happen?

I'm not entirely certain that it did. The message wherein Hubert
requested the name change was apparently not public. (At least I didn't
get it.) Alfvaen's message acking the change did not specify whose name
was changed. Really, the only publically knowable information on this
name change is that one player changed the way he signed his messages,
which hardly has any force in the rules. I haven't read the relevant
rule, so I may be wrong, but I hope I'm not, else the registrar could
get away with changing names generally without telling whose name e is
changing. (Actually, there might be an interesting scam here. hmm.)

**two-star

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:05:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction that entity!

> > >- 867-5309
> > 
> > Hey! When did that happen?
> 
> I'm not entirely certain that it did. The message wherein ...
> requested the name change was apparently not public. (At least I didn't
> get it.) Alfvaen's message acking the change did not specify whose name
> was changed. 

The message was public.  Here's what I received:

Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 02:18:45 -0400 (EDT)
X-Sent-At-Date: 	Sun, 31 May 1998 20:18:25 -1000
From: Eric Plumb <[email-masked]>
To: Acka <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 603 (AtP)
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Sat, 30 May 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:

> > , which certainly does not explicitly contradict that black is a color.
> > In other words, by eir own reasoning, interpretation is not a valid cause
> > for a Witchhunt. 
> 
> While I agree with the rest of the initiators reasoning, I would just like
> to point out that the CFJ he refers to here is under appeal.

You are, of course, correct.  I was just, um, pointing out Slakko's
rampant hypocrisy.  Which, now that I think of it, would make a pretty 
good Deadly Sin.

And stop referring to me as "the initiator."

Which reminds me.  In the grand tradition of Mr. Tambourine Man, I change
my Ackanomic name (pending, of course, the Registrar's acknowledgement) to
"867-5309".

The days of fear and oppression are over; I admit defeat at the capable
hands of /dev/joe, the only seriously active player still eligible to find
Treasure 200.

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:10:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Auction that entity!

Speaking of, do I not qualify as a seriously active player?  And I do
believe I am still eligible :)

Hubert sez:
>
>The days of fear and oppression are over; I admit defeat at the capable
>hands of /dev/joe, the only seriously active player still eligible to find
>Treasure 200.
>
>

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:16:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction that entity!

On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Alexandre Owen Muniz wrote:
>> >> I bid Hubert for K2 (unless Hubert gets there first)
>> >
>> >Hubert who? :-)
>> >
>> >- 867-5309
>> 
>> Hey! When did that happen?
>
>I'm not entirely certain that it did. The message wherein Hubert
>requested the name change was apparently not public. (At least I didn't
>get it.) Alfvaen's message acking the change did not specify whose name

I saw the initial message and remember it (though I don't have it
archived on my own machine) so I can at least verify that it was sent to a
public forum.

- --JT

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction that entity!

Fortunato wrote:
> Speaking of, do I not qualify as a seriously active player?

Barely.  When I was checking on the AWOL status of certain players a
while back, you had merely one public message in a week to keep you from
being AWOL.

> And I do believe I am still eligible :)

Until you wrote that message, whose next line quoted below I've censored. :-o

> H*b*rt sez:
> >The days of fear and oppression are over; I admit defeat at the capable
> >hands of /dev/joe, the only seriously active player still eligible to find
> >Treasure 200.

Incidentally, saaremaa and Rex Mundi may still be eligible, unless I've
missed the message from them containing the word.  Karma and Tom Kitten
are the only two inactive players still playing who are eligible, due to
my efforts to get inactive players to quit or to say the word -- Astro
eliminated himself by publicly quoting my private message to him containing
the word, which I believe makes me the only player still eligible for
treasure 200 to have scored a point for treasure 208. :-o

I'm willing to work out a deal with Rex Mundi and saaremaa to have one of
us find this treasure once Karma and Tom Kitten have been eliminated.  Is
Tom Kitten AWOL?  It's difficult for me to check all my received mail for
the last week because of the way I store it; it is much easier for me to
check by download the digests from the FTP archive, which may or may not
currently exist.  Maybe we can get MTM or Jenny to support the deal by
letting one of them find treasure 208.

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 13:44:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3191

> > Append the following JUMP delimited text to the end of rule 103
(Retroactive
> > Effects).
>
> I'm not positive, but wouldn't this cause some problems with CFJs and
> judgement?

I'm not sure either but I don't think the rules on CFJs claim precedence at
the moment so it wouldn't change the precedence between these.

MTM, CotC who really ought to know these things :-).

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 13:51:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction that entity!

> I'm willing to work out a deal with Rex Mundi and saaremaa to have one of
> us find this treasure once Karma and Tom Kitten have been eliminated.  Is
> Tom Kitten AWOL?  It's difficult for me to check all my received mail for
> the last week because of the way I store it; it is much easier for me to
> check by download the digests from the FTP archive, which may or may not
> currently exist.  Maybe we can get MTM or Jenny to support the deal by
> letting one of them find treasure 208.

IIRC Tom Kitten got removed from the game by going AWOL without shedding eir
pending status.

MTM.

PS, anyone who wants to quote this message including the word "Hubert" is
perfectly welcome to.

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:14:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: <- Wow!

On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> >  I accept your unambiguously misspelt offer "" to trade all your
> > ackadollars for A$1. 
> 
> Sigh, this again. I accept you unambiguously misspelt offer to give me all
> your tradeable entities (which you spelt "I accept your unambiguously
> misspelt offer "" to trade all your
> ackadollars for A$1.").
> 
 Oops.  I intended to send that to Acka-research, but obviously forgot...:-)

 Wild Card.

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 15:59:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction that entity!

>Incidentally, saaremaa and Rex Mundi may still be eligible, unless I've
>missed the message from them containing the word.
[snip]
>
>/dev/joe
>
I am definitely not still eligible; I called a BPH on Hubert.

Rex Mundi.

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