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acka-research-digest     Monday, January 19 1998     Volume 02 : Number 230

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:51:30 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2615

On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> > Proposal 2615
> > Schedules Plus
> > Slakko (Duncan Richer)
> 
> I kinda like the idea behind this, but:
> 
> 1) I voted against it because I don't think we need _another_ office.
> It _is_ more convenient for the CotC to maintain the CFJIL, too, and
> even the Zuriti'ili guidelines.  (Say, where are those, anyway?  Linked
> to Rule 711(?), I'd imagine?)

This is probably true.  Any other Schedule-ready things people could
suggest?

We may not need another office for it now, but better we split it off
(perhaps I should resubmit with it as an Optional Office otherwise filled
by the Rule-Harfer) than get to a stage where we have 26 Schedules and the
Rule-Harfer is overworked pulling a double shift.  Keep the option for
hiving the work off.
 
> 2) I wouldn't mind seeing the Official Dictionary considered a Schedule
> as well.

ermmmm... A Telnet connection Schedule.  Well,...
- -- 
Duncan C. "big .sig, short message" Richer aka
Slakko the Really Lost Warner Brother - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University
Ackanomic - RuneMaker - Chess-Umpire - Map-Harfer - Senator - Swinger

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:53:58 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Proposal 2592 rejected

Sure.  It seemed like a reasonable proposal, and I thought it was likely
to pass, so I anti-voted. 

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Duncan Richer [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Sunday, January 18, 1998 9:55 AM
>To:	[email-masked]
>Subject:	Re: Acka: Proposal 2592 rejected
>
>On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Brian Raiter wrote:
>
>Results of Proposal 2592
>> 
>> 13/20 votes: Quorum achieved
>> 5/11 YES votes: Proposal rejected
>>     NO:
>> Goldenmean           (Boomerangs)
>> two-star             (MetaMorph)
>> ThinMan              (Vulcan)
>> Fortunato            (SPAM)
>> Rex Mundi
>> K 2
>
>Can anyone explain why they voted against this.  After all, the point of
>Fictionary is to find words that no-one knows the meaning of.  If we allow
>all words in the Definition Dictionaries to be used, it reduces the
>likelihood of a boring round with a word that 2 people know already for
>some reason.
>

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:20:32 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Proposal 2592 rejected

On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, AARON KEESLER wrote:

> Sure.  It seemed like a reasonable proposal, and I thought it was likely
> to pass, so I anti-voted. 

Obviously nowhere near as likely to pass as you thought. :-)
Geez.  If 6 people anti-voted on a modest proposal we're all in real
trouble.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko the Really Lost Warner Brother - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University
Ackanomic - RuneMaker - Chess-Umpire - Map-Harfer - Senator - Swinger

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:34:04 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Proposal 2592 rejected

Well, I have been known to let fly a few wild shafts :)  I was probably
in the minority as an anti-voter, if what Alfvaen said was correct,
however...

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Duncan Richer [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Monday, January 19, 1998 9:21 AM
>To:	[email-masked]'
>Subject:	RE: Acka: Proposal 2592 rejected
>
>On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, AARON KEESLER wrote:
>
>> Sure.  It seemed like a reasonable proposal, and I thought it was likely
>> to pass, so I anti-voted. 
>
>Obviously nowhere near as likely to pass as you thought. :-)
>Geez.  If 6 people anti-voted on a modest proposal we're all in real
>trouble.
>
>-- 
>Duncan C. "" Richer aka
>Slakko the Really Lost Warner Brother - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/
>Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University
>Ackanomic - RuneMaker - Chess-Umpire - Map-Harfer - Senator - Swinger
>

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:26:44 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2592 rejected

> Sure.  It seemed like a reasonable proposal, and I thought it was likely
> to pass, so I anti-voted. 

See? See?! Anti-voting is evil. Get rid of it now :-).

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:19:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2622

> Proposal 2622
> Money, Money, Money
> else...if (Henry Towsner)
> 
> [...]
> 
> --
> -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran
> 
> 	<[email-masked]>
> 
> 	No iron can stab the heart with such force as a period put just at
> the right place.
> 	-Isaac Babel

Hmm. Whatever you did, else...if, it didn't work. Is it possible your
mailer is filtering out trailing spaces?

In addition, I see that Proposal 2617 has problems of its own. I
presume those "=20"s and " ="s are some kind of Microsoft by-product
to indicate soft line breaks?

In any case, it would really be nice if we could fix this stuff. I
would hate to have to go back to proofreading every proposal by hand
before I can send it out....

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:36:04 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2622

> Hmm. Whatever you did, else...if, it didn't work. Is it possible your
> mailer is filtering out trailing spaces?

> In addition, I see that Proposal 2617 has problems of its own. I
> presume those "=20"s and " ="s are some kind of Microsoft by-product
> to indicate soft line breaks?

Actually, it's more to do with MIME encoding.  "20" is, of course, the
hexadecimal code for an ASCII space character, so the =20's are, perhaps,
trailing spaces.  I'm not quite sure what _precisely_ the equal signs
are, though.  But Microsoft is, oddly enough, not really to blame for the
eccentricities of MIME, although perhaps the fact that the message, which
is plain text, is encoded in MIME, is their fault.

> In any case, it would really be nice if we could fix this stuff. I
> would hate to have to go back to proofreading every proposal by hand
> before I can send it out....

Can you fix it as Spelling Exchequer?  :-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Lost Highway Soundtrack
Current Book--Charles Dickens:Great Expectations
"Ride the wild smurf, Druid!"

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:44:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2622

> Actually, it's more to do with MIME encoding.  "20" is, of course, the
> hexadecimal code for an ASCII space character, so the =20's are, perhaps,
> trailing spaces.  I'm not quite sure what _precisely_ the equal signs
> are, though.  But Microsoft is, oddly enough, not really to blame for the
> eccentricities of MIME, although perhaps the fact that the message, which
> is plain text, is encoded in MIME, is their fault.

Okay, I can accept that.

> > In any case, it would really be nice if we could fix this stuff. I
> > would hate to have to go back to proofreading every proposal by hand
> > before I can send it out....
> 
> Can you fix it as Spelling Exchequer?  :-)

I could, if it was sent to me as the Spelling Exchequer. The rule
indicates that people have to specifically request that service,
otherwise it's not meant for the Spelling Exchequer.

General note: if you want me to proofread a proposal before
distributing it, just send it directly to me ([email-masked])
instead of to the nomicbot, and indicate that you want it checked
over. See Rule 430 for the full story.

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:57:15 -0500
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2622

>Hmm. Whatever you did, else...if, it didn't work. Is it possible your
>mailer is filtering out trailing spaces?
	It seems to be.  I'm using Eudora 3.1, does anyone know how to stop
that?

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	No iron can stab the heart with such force as a period put just at
the right place.
	-Isaac Babel

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:53:11 +1100
From: [email-masked] (kii)
Subject: RE: Acka: Proposal 2592 rejected

>Sure.  It seemed like a reasonable proposal, and I thought it was likely
>to pass, so I anti-voted.

Ditto...

Seems to have backfired tho :)

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:57:13 +1100
From: [email-masked] (kii)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2592 rejected

>See? See?! Anti-voting is evil. Get rid of it now :-).

Too bad I can't have you burnt-as-a-witch for such a heretical statement....

Burn the Rabbit!

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:00:56 +1100
From: [email-masked] (kii)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2623

Did I do this...

My appologies, I had not considered the impact my action would have on the duel

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