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acka-research-digest     Tuesday, August 26 1997     Volume 02 : Number 134

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:30:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2278 ACCEPTED (a madrigal)

I applaud breadbox on this fine reporting of his very first voting results
as tabulator.  I would now like to take this opportunity to ask that
please, for the love of god, shut it off!

                                   - Vynd

[email-masked]

On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Brian Raiter wrote:

> Proposal 2278 has come down
> to the end of its time for consideration.
> To fulfill the duties that follow forthwith,
>     I now will tell you the fate,
>     Of Proposal 2278.
> 
> Now, nineteen possible voters there were,
> The status of six of these "Pending" marked.
> But now I do tell you all six did cast votes--
>     Their "Active" status now seen,
>     Just like the other thirteen.
> 
> After those six, ten votes I received,
> And all received in the previous week,
> Making the full count of voters sixteen.
>     Thus I can say in this forum
>     We happily have achieved quorum.
> 
> 
> Now Ben, Archie Leach, and lastly myself,
> Chose to vote PRESENT regarding this change.
> These three can thus be ignored from now on.
>     They are not in the next equation,
>     Needing no more consid'ration.
> 
> Of NO votes we have here only norpan's
> And mr cwm's. All the rest voted YES.
> A little subtraction will thus clearly show
>     That eleven favor this text,
>     The eleven that I will name next.
> 
> Guy Fawkes, Alfvaen, /dev/joe, Red Barn,
> Niccolo Flychuck, Rex Mundi, ThinMan,
> Balsamic Dragon, Malenkai, Whiz,
>     And Vynd have all said "Accept!"
>     Therefore these changes are kept.
> 
> 
> > Proposal 2278
> > Getting some Profit after all
> > Niccolo Flychuck
> > Tue Aug 19 00:49:37 1997
> > 
> > This is a Modest proposal.
> > Ammend R1303 "Synod" in the following ways:
> > 
> > Replace the text "(NoM*2)/(TotalMem*5)" With the text
> > "(NoM*2)/(TotalMem*5)*Profits"
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 23:01:57 -0600 (MDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2278 ACCEPTED (a madrigal)

It almost seems a shame after this to comment that, as near as I can tell,
these results have been posted an hour early...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In The Other Room--The Cars:Stranger Eyes
Current Book--David Brin:Infinity's Shore
But when the thunder breaks, it breaks for you and me

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Date: 26 Aug 1997 08:37:41 -0500
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Setting reply-to:s.

	Perhaps someone could alter the Reply-To: in acka-voting and
acka-voting-digest to point to acka-research.  Seems like a good idea to
me. 
- -- 
Archie Leach <[email-masked]>
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 23:21:06 -0600 (MDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2278 ACCEPTED (a madrigal)

> Now, nineteen possible voters there were,
> The status of six of these "Pending" marked.
> But now I do tell you all six did cast votes--
>     Their "Active" status now seen,
>     Just like the other thirteen.

Except for ILIOS, who remains pending.  (And I think he's unsubscribed from
the mailing lists, too...)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--This Mortal Coil:Tarantula
Current Book--David Brin:Infinity's Shore
This writing is all fake, so you should go away and not read any of it.

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:40:49 -0600 (MDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Setting reply-to:s.

> 	Perhaps someone could alter the Reply-To: in acka-voting and
> acka-voting-digest to point to acka-research.  Seems like a good idea to
> me. 

There are some who say this has already happened.  It seems to work that
way for me, at any rate...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Elvis Presley:Return To Sender
Current Book--David Brin:Infinity's Shore
Always avoid alliteration.

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:45:45 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Proposal 2278 ACCEPTED (a madrigal)

breadbox recited:

> Guy Fawkes, Alfvaen, /dev/joe, Red Barn,
> Niccolo Flychuck, Rex Mundi, ThinMan,
> Balsamic Dragon, Malenkai, Whiz,
>     And Vynd have all said "Accept!"
>     Therefore these changes are kept.
> 
Our poetic Tabulator has neglected to mention the Vulcan unity vote
among these.  Not that it affects the outcome this time, but it is
one of the things that new Tabulators seem to need to get used to.

ThinMan

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:34:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Setting reply-to:s.

> 	Perhaps someone could alter the Reply-To: in acka-voting and
> acka-voting-digest to point to acka-research.  Seems like a good
> idea to me.

This is already
How it is set, and has been
For many months now.

breadbox

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2278 ACCEPTED (a madrigal)

> Our poetic Tabulator has neglected to mention the Vulcan unity vote
> among these.  Not that it affects the outcome this time, but it is
> one of the things that new Tabulators seem to need to get used to.

I acknowledge the truth of his notes.
(He'd be justified if he gloats.)
    So many votes YES,
    And I failed to address
All the Party unanimity votes.

> It almost seems a shame after this to comment that, as near as I can
> tell, these results have been posted an hour early...

The fault stems from where I stand,
On the opposite side of the land.
    I'm in PDT,
    And we're EDT.
... I shouldn't have done this by hand.

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:51:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2282

> Proposal 2282
> Use The Luke, Force
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> Repeal Rule 411.1, "Senate Resolutions"

Let me just say that I favor the notion
That we do not need Senate Resolutions.
In fact, I proclaim that I second the motion.
We already have much better solutions
For dealing with crises, and that restrict
The methods in which the Rules can be changed,
The abuses that players are wont to inflict,
And the ways that game balance can be deranged.
Whenever the rules permit an authority
To enact any and all kinds of amending
Without the agreement of the majority,
You know that their powers will soon be extending.
Though the methods we have may not seen sufficient:
"Never make absolute power efficient."

breadbox

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:37:58 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Proposal 2282

The Promoter wrote:

> Proposal 2282
> Use The Luke, Force
> Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
> 
> This is a Modest proposal.
> Repeal Rule 411.1, "Senate Resolutions"
> 
The Tyrannical Ruling Elite are sympathetic to this initiative.  Rule
411.1 is kludgy, and has, in our opinion, outlived its usefulness.
We had considered that some Ackan political elements might wish to
retain R411.1, as an official means of bringing proposed resolutions to
us, but we will not obstruct the will of the people in this matter.  We
assure you that Vulcan will give any and all due consideration to any
requests made of us by any ackazen, whether rule 411.1 is retained or
not.

ThinMan
Vulcan (TRE)

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Date: 26 Aug 1997 14:51:37 -0500
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2282

"Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]> writes:

> The Tyrannical Ruling Elite are sympathetic to this initiative.  Rule
> 411.1 is kludgy, and has, in our opinion, outlived its usefulness.
> We had considered that some Ackan political elements might wish to
> retain R411.1, as an official means of bringing proposed resolutions to
> us, but we will not obstruct the will of the people in this matter.  We
> assure you that Vulcan will give any and all due consideration to any
> requests made of us by any ackazen, whether rule 411.1 is retained or
> not.

	Typical imperialist tyrannical ruling elite rhetoric!  

	Viva la Revolucion!

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Archie Leach <[email-masked]>
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