Subject: acka-games-digest V3 #119
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acka-games-digest        Thursday, June 4 1998        Volume 03 : Number 119

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:33:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Eleusis Game 1 - Round 1 - /dev/joe's play

> Correct Plays          | Incorrect plays
> -----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------
>  K S (starter)         |
>  Q S (/dev/joe)        |
>  6 S (TGW)             |
>  3 S (else...if)       |
>  4 C (/dev/joe)        |
>  4 D (TGW)             |
>  5 D (else...if)       |
>  6 D (/dev/joe)        | 5 H (TGW)
>  Q D (else...if acting)|
>  Q H (/dev/joe [*])    | K S (TGW) 8 H (else...if acting)
>  K H (/dev/joe)        |
>  A H (TGW)             | J H (else...if) A C (/dev/joe)
>  2 S (TGW)             |
>  7 S (else...if)       | A S (/dev/joe) 9 S (TGW [*]) J S (else...if)
>                        | 5 S (/dev/joe) 6 C (TGW) 10 C (else...if)
> 10 H (/dev/joe)        |
>  K H (TGW)             | A C (else...if) 3 H (/dev/joe) A S (TGW)
>  A H (else...if[*])    |
>  2 C (/dev/joe)        | 7 D (TGW) 10 C (else...if) 2 H (/dev/joe)
>  3 C (TGW)             | J C (else...if)
>  4 D (/dev/joe)        | 4 S (TGW) 5 S (else...if)
>  4 H (/dev/joe[*])     |
>  8 H (TGW)             |
>  8 D (else...if)       |
>  A D (/dev/joe)        |
>  7 C (TGW)             | 9 H (else...if)

I play the 6 of diamonds.

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:53:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Eleusis G2R1

I play the 3 C

- --JT

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[ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.                  ]
[ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 10:39:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Viruses: Round 1 Ends

Round 1 of viruses ended at 01:56 Jun 4 Acka time.

Player    moves
JT        P 29 74*  I 28 75   P 22 75
Slakko    P 31 81   P 32 81   P 32 82
Alfvaen   P 29 74*  P 24 75   P 22 77
MTM       P 19 78   P 20 78   P 21 78
Fortunato I 29 76   I 30 76   P 30 75
Rex Mundi P 28 72   P 28 74   P 23 73
Pandora (attempted to play at 05:16 Jun 4 -- too late)
Astro, Niccolo Flychuck, JM Bear -- no moves submitted

The *-ed moves conflict and thus were ignored.

I am wondering if we need a rule change to handle people forgetting to submit
their first moves -- as I see it, Pandora et al don't get a 3-move turn now.

    1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 
    8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 

 70 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   70
 71 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   71
 72 . . . . @ M @ . . . R R . . . . .   72
 73 . . . . P R . . . @ . . . . . . .   73
 74 . . . . . . . . . @ R . . . . . .   74
 75 . . . J J . A @ . @ J . F . . . .   75
 76 . . . @ . A A @ . . @ . F . . . .   76
 77 . . G . . . @ . . . . F F . . . .   77
 78 . . G G @ G . . . . . . . . . . .   78
 79 . . G G . G . . . . . . . . . . .   79
 80 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   80
 81 . . . . . . . . . . . . . S S . .   81
 82 . . . . . . . . . . . . . S S . .   82
 83 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   83
 84 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   84

    1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 
    8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 

@ Player    viruses  viruspoints
G MTM          7          1
F Fortunato    4          0
R Rex Mundi    4          0
S Slakko       4          0
A Alfvaen      3          0
J JT           3          0
M JM Bear      1          0
P Pandora      1          0
O Astro        0          0
N Niccolo F    0          0
* two-star (wants to join this round)

Mr Tambourine Man got a viruspoint this round.

Round 2 begins now, reply to make your move.

/dev/joe
Referee

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 11:44:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Bacon Game 2 (Alfvaen & K 2)

Isn't this round finished now?

K 2

Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> > I name Irving Bacon.
>
> > K 2
>
> Well, if you're going to go for people I've never heard of, I'll see if I
> can do the same.  I name Maury Chaykin, and we'll see if we can blank a
> round.
>
> --
> --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
> Current Album--Genesis:Duke
> Current Book--Robert Jordan:The Shadow Rising
> How quickly daft jumping zebras vex.

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 13:47:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Fictionary

I haven't seen anything since the last ing word was posted.
Did it fall afoul of the downtime?

Anyone?

- --JT

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[ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.                  ]
[ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:09:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary

JT asked:
> I haven't seen anything since the last ing word was posted.
> Did it fall afoul of the downtime?

Not exactly.  The ing word was posted by else...if at 18:43 May 27th,
after muppetlabs was back up.  The end of the period for submitting
definitions was May 30th at that time, so else...if had until June 2nd
at that time to post the list of definitions.  So else..if loses 4
gamepoints, plus 1 more for performing a default action*, and play
proceeds to the next round, with Attila the Pun as Brainiac; I think
his time to post an Ing word begins now, when this is publicly posted.

* Actually, I think he doesn't lose the extra point, because the default
action says no other scoring occurs this round, and appears later in the
rule so it has precedence.  I think the whole "lose 1 point on default
actions" thing in Fictionary is confusing, and should be replaced by
explicitly writing out the penalty where and when it occurs.  I know it
is supposed to negate the penalties for players who failed to submit
definitions, since, in some cases, the Brainiac might leave Ackanomic
and we might never find out whether some players submitted definitions
except by taking their own word for it, but isn't that retroactive?
Either make the penalties for such things all occur when the round ends,
or make the penalties be reversed by an appropriate score change when
the Brainiac fails to post the list of definitions.

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:34:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary

On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> JT asked:
> > I haven't seen anything since the last ing word was posted.
> > Did it fall afoul of the downtime?
> 
> Not exactly.  The ing word was posted by else...if at 18:43 May 27th,
> after muppetlabs was back up.  The end of the period for submitting
> definitions was May 30th at that time, so else...if had until June 2nd
> at that time to post the list of definitions.  So else..if loses 4
> gamepoints, plus 1 more for performing a default action*, and play
> proceeds to the next round, with Attila the Pun as Brainiac; I think
> his time to post an Ing word begins now, when this is publicly posted.
> 
> * Actually, I think he doesn't lose the extra point, because the default
> action says no other scoring occurs this round, and appears later in the
> rule so it has precedence.  I think the whole "lose 1 point on default
> actions" thing in Fictionary is confusing, and should be replaced by
> explicitly writing out the penalty where and when it occurs.  I know it
> is supposed to negate the penalties for players who failed to submit
> definitions, since, in some cases, the Brainiac might leave Ackanomic
> and we might never find out whether some players submitted definitions
> except by taking their own word for it, but isn't that retroactive?
> Either make the penalties for such things all occur when the round ends,
> or make the penalties be reversed by an appropriate score change when
> the Brainiac fails to post the list of definitions.
> 
> /dev/joe
> 

I think that Fictionary needs to be extensively overhauled, actually, to
deal with times when a round is not completed on time.  We've had several
occassions so far this game where the Brainiac took longer than he was
supposed to, and just ignored the fact that a bunch of default actions
probably should have occured.  Once this game is done, I plan to submit
some fixes.

                                 - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 16:14:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary

>I haven't seen anything since the last ing word was posted.
>Did it fall afoul of the downtime?
	I completely forgot, I'm REALLY sorry.  I apologize profusely and
leave Fictionary.  I also donate A$2 to MTM for the Twits, and offer to
join.

- --
- -Henry Towsner

	<[email-masked]>

	Success is the child of audacity.
		-Benjamin Disraeli

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 16:38:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary

On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Towsner wrote:

> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 16:14:34 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary
> 
> >I haven't seen anything since the last ing word was posted.
> >Did it fall afoul of the downtime?
> 	I completely forgot, I'm REALLY sorry.  I apologize profusely and
> leave Fictionary.  I also donate A$2 to MTM for the Twits, and offer to
> join.

Of course, it is probablyy my turn to forget to do something.  I leave
fictionary.  I donate A$1 to the twits, and offer to serve as the official
twits thwacker.

ruufs

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 20:06:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: YORL duel play

My eyes filled with tears as I saw the result of my treachery, and I
simply stood watching the red-clothed soldiers bully the monks into a
circle. Soon enough the sergeant in charge saw me standing on the hill and
sent a troop of his men up to pick me up. As they prodded me down to the
valley with their rifles, I wondered, for the thousandth time, what I had
done.

The Lord High Inquisitor himself was there, and quickly pulled me out of
the crowd with a sickly smile. "Very well done, little birdy" he
pronounced aloud, in front of my gathered 'brother' monks. "You have led
us to a rich prize indeed - I must admit I had begun to have doubts about
your attachment to your little lady."

Slightly outside the cowering group of monks stood the Abbott and
Methuselah, held separately, and their eyes held none of the hostility
that the others clearly felt for me. Instead both looked at me sadly, and
Methuselah half-smiled ruefully.

"Sergeant. We will leave momenterally" snapped the Inquisitor. "It only
remains to leave a lesson for any who come here afterwards. Take him, and
hang him." 

The head of the Scarlet Fist was pointing at Methuselah, and I couldn't
help myself any longer. "No. Please, don't." - my gasp was torn from me,
and received a mocking laugh in return, and a blow that felled me to my
knees from one of the Scarlet guards.

In short order they hauled Methuselah, unresisting, to a tree and tied a
noose around his neck. Slinging the rope over a bough, the Sergeant turned
to the Inquisitor, who merely nodded. Methuselah's serene face turned red
as he was hauled up into the air, and he shuddered before expiring. Many
of the monks were sobbing, and a few had cried out. I was not the only one
who loved 'Meth'.

The troop ignored me entirely as they gathered the others and marched off
in convoy, leaving me wallowing in self-pity and misery. Methuselah was
left in the tree, a sign of what was to come when the Scarlet Fist caught
up with you.

I lay there for a long time, through the night, and watched the dawn the
next morning before standing and following the soldiers to the city,
leaving the smoking ruins and the damned tree behind me. Kate would be
free by now.

Koxvolio plays 'tree'.

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 21:37:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Micah Smukler)
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary

>JT asked:
>> I haven't seen anything since the last ing word was posted.
>> Did it fall afoul of the downtime?
>
>Not exactly.  The ing word was posted by else...if at 18:43 May 27th,
>after muppetlabs was back up.  The end of the period for submitting
>definitions was May 30th at that time, so else...if had until June 2nd
>at that time to post the list of definitions.  So else..if loses 4
>gamepoints, plus 1 more for performing a default action*, and play
>proceeds to the next round, with Attila the Pun as Brainiac; I think
>his time to post an Ing word begins now, when this is publicly posted.
>

Very well:

The new ing word is "zeugma".

AtP

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