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acka-games-digest        Saturday, May 9 1998        Volume 03 : Number 096

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 00:05:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Raquel Peres da Silva" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Eleusis G2R1 (Attila the Pun)

> KC.

This was a correct play.

Ayla
Prophet

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 03:35:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: YORL duel play

> I was going to say that this play came too late, but when reading the
> YORL Rules, here's what I found:
> 
> "Also, when the barkeep notices that a Bard is asleep (i.e. it has been
> eir turn continuously for three days or more, and e has not tried a play
> in all that time) and posts a message to that effect, that Bard is
> considered to have passed."
> 
> I can't remember if this came up in the past, a Bard playing after the
> three-day limit has expired but before being declared asleep.  The Rules
> do say that an Interruption can be denied after three days, but nothing
> about a Bard's play.
> 
> So I think this play is still valid.  I'll have to actually go and read
> it now and see if I accept it, but just because The Gingham Wearer was
> asleep when e posted it doesn't seem to mean I can disregard it.
> 
> So obviously this needs to be tightened up a bit in phrasing...

With respect; bollocks! As barkeep/referee in a *duel*, this is quite
notably poor. I noticed that he had been too late and was waiting for you
to announce it so I could get on with my (previously abortive) turn. But I
suppose if you can't reject it for being late, then you can't.

Now I'll have to try and interrupt instead, and I still don't understand
how tightly you're insisting on the word I play being actually present in
the text itself...

Oh well.

Koxvolio

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 03:41:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary Round 5

On Fri, 8 May 1998, Eric Plumb wrote:

> 
> Round 5 of Fictionary is over, but in order to correctly calculate scores,
> I need to know: is Round 3 (in which JT posted an invalid Dictionary
> definition) included in the official scoring?  I didn't think it was, but
> it is depicted as so on the Web page.
> 
> Help!  I need somebody.
Not just anybody?

I'm not sure - the web page was adjusted as if the scoring was official,
because in a previous game (Game 1) there was a similar incident.
Something should really be done about it - I bags dibs on the correction
proposal.
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 04:01:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: WUA round 8 results

On Fri, 8 May 1998, Eric Plumb wrote:

>Now that we're back on the somewhat more prosaic words, JT must link from
>"dog" in Round 9.

And the word is 'llano'

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 04:08:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: WUA round 8 results

On Sat, 9 May 1998, JT wrote:

> On Fri, 8 May 1998, Eric Plumb wrote:
> 
> >Now that we're back on the somewhat more prosaic words, JT must link from
> >"dog" in Round 9.
> 
> And the word is 'llano'

Um, JT, if the umpire doesn't know what the uh? word means, how can e say
you have a legitimate link word?

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 04:13:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: WUA round 8 results

On Sat, 9 May 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

>Um, JT, if the umpire doesn't know what the uh? word means, how can e say
>you have a legitimate link word?

As far as I was aware, the umpire was allowed to look up the meaning.
The word is in the official dictionary (as far as I can tell by the
definition in the rules).. However it's not 'common' which is merely a
recomendation of the WUA rules.  I am willing to choose a more common word
(I reread the WUA rules after choosing the word)

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 05:33:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: YORL duel play

> With respect; bollocks! As barkeep/referee in a *duel*, this is quite
> notably poor. I noticed that he had been too late and was waiting for you
> to announce it so I could get on with my (previously abortive) turn. But I
> suppose if you can't reject it for being late, then you can't.

With respect, rubbish! (Notice that subtle difference there?) As I'm sure you
will have noticed nobody is perfect so this kind of thing happens. Also, you
may not have noticed but Alfvaen does quite a lot of work for this game.
Shall we give you the job of Financier and scorekeeper instead? I'd be
willing to wager that you wouldn't be able to keep up with little things like
duels. If you noticed it then why didn't you politely point it out to Alfvaen
in a private message? I'm sure that if you did he would have quickly declared
me asleep.

> Now I'll have to try and interrupt instead, and I still don't understand
> how tightly you're insisting on the word I play being actually present in
> the text itself...

As a guide, I would suggest you have a look over the past and current YORL
games to see what has been accepted and declined in terms of interruptions.
Whilst I can't guarantee Alfvaen will go by the same system it should give
you a reasonable guide.

TGW, incensed.

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 06:03:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Eleusis Game 1 - Round 1 - TGW's play

> Correct Plays          | Incorrect plays
>
- -----------------------+------------------------------------------------------

>  K S (starter)         |
>  Q S (/dev/joe)        |
>  6 S (TGW)             |
>  3 S (else...if)       |
>  4 C (/dev/joe)        |
>  4 D (TGW)             |
>  5 D (else...if)       |
>  6 D (/dev/joe)        | 5 H (TGW)
>  Q D (else...if acting)|
>  Q H (/dev/joe [*])    | K S (TGW) 8 H (else...if acting)
>  K H (/dev/joe)        |
>  A H (TGW)             | J H (else...if) A C (/dev/joe)
>  2 S (TGW)             |
>  7 S (else...if)       | A S (/dev/joe) 9 S (TGW [*]) J S (else...if)
>                        | 5 S (/dev/joe) 6 C (TGW) 10 C (else...if)
> 10 H (/dev/joe)        |
>  K H (TGW)             | A C (else...if) 3 H (/dev/joe) A S (TGW)
>  A H (else...if[*])    |
>  2 C (/dev/joe)        |

I'm going to try the 7 of diamonds. Thanks for the reminder JT.

TGW.

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 07:48:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Machine That Goes *ping*

> Congratulations, most worthy student.  You have indeed guessed the
> Truth of the Machine.  May your Boon be fruitful, and may the
> Machine bring you joy.

And once again I congratulate /dev/joe on his *ping*ing perspicacity.

breadbox

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 13:31:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Schmidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Game of Pure Skill 2 - Rd 7 results

TGW did it again - eir 9 beats JT's 7 and Alfvaen's 6,
so TGW is close behind JT now.

Round| 1| 2| 3 | 4| 5| 6| 7|
Card |5S|KS| 7S|4S|3S|JS|8S|
Alfvn|9H|AH|10H|8H|5H|KH|6H| 27 pts
JT   |3D|9D| 5D|2D|4D|8D|7D| 13 pts
TGW  |3C|2C| 5C|4C|6C|QC|9C| 11 pts

Next card: 10 of Spades
J. M. Bear

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 22:59:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Eleusis G2R1 (K 2)

Attila the Pun played the King of Clubs.  This was a correct play, and
Prophet Ayla correctly identified as such.  It is now K 2's turn.

Players and Scores:
    Alfvaen         : 0  ( 0 cards) (Deus)
    Attila the Pun  : 0  (18 cards)
  * K 2             : 0  (17 cards)
    Fortunato       : 0  (17 cards)
    Ayla            : 0  (12 cards) (Prophet)
    Robert Sevin    : 0  (14 cards)
    JT              : 0  (12 cards)
(* denotes whose turn it is to play -- play will be entered only after Deus
   and prophet respond to the play)

Card ranks:
The cards in each suit are ranked A-K with Ace low(values 1-13).
There are no Wild cards.

Correct Plays            | Incorrect plays
- -------------------------+------------------------------------------------------
  8 D (starter)          |
  8 H (Attila the Pun)   | 9 S (K 2)
  6 H (Fortunato[+])     | 6 S (Ayla)
  6 H (Robert Sevin)     | 
  7 H (JT)               | 5 H (Attila the Pun), 9 D (K 2)
* 6 C (Fortunato)        |
  2 C (Ayla)             | 6 C (Robert Sevin), 2 S (JT)
  2 H (Attila the Pun[+])| 2 D (K 2)
  J C (Fortunato)        |
  A H (Ayla)             | 9 S (Robert Sevin)
  K H (JT)               |*2 H (Attila the Pun)
  4 C (K 2)              | Q D (Fortunato)
! Q S (Ayla)             |
  3 C (Robert Sevin)     |
  3 H (JT)               |
  K C (Attila the Pun)   |

[+] - Invalid "No Play", card selected by Deus
 *  - marks every tenth card
 !  - prophet

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Chris Rea:On The Beach
Current Book--Elizabeth Ann Scarborough:The Healer's War
Make a little birdhouse in your soul.

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 23:00:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: YORL duel play

> Now I'll have to try and interrupt instead, and I still don't understand
> how tightly you're insisting on the word I play being actually present in
> the text itself...

As I said, I am being a bit harsher than other Barkeeps(/dev/joe, for
instance), because my cards are more prosaic.  A good guideline will be
that if the word is actually in the play, then I'll accept the interrupt.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Chris Rea:On The Beach
Current Book--Elizabeth Ann Scarborough:The Healer's War
When the fires go out, gray goo won't remember you.  --billbill

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 23:08:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: YORL Duel

> The Gingham Wearer plays: big.

This play is accepted, but only barely.  Any less use of the word than
this and I would have had to refuse it.  (Although an interruption with
"big" would have succeeded...)

It is The Gingham Wearer's turn.

The Gingham Wearer: 5 cards
Koxvolio: 8 cards

Loose Ends: temple

(And as far as I can tell, Koxvolio can still interrupt based on this play
for three days, even if TGW plays again in the meantime.)

I'll try to put up a web page for this sometime soon.  (I've been spending
most of the past couple of days playing my new game "Colonization"...)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Sade:Diamond Life
Current Book--Elizabeth Ann Scarborough:The Healer's War
In one ear and gone tomorrow.

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 23:19:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: YORL Duel

On Sat, 9 May 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> I'll try to put up a web page for this sometime soon.  (I've been spending
> most of the past couple of days playing my new game "Colonization"...)
> 

Oh, cool!  I didn't know that the sequel to Rectification was out already!

IB
groan

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