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acka-games-digest      Sunday, February 15 1998      Volume 03 : Number 015

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 03:52:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Fictionary Round 8: Corymb

Alfvaen's gone and done it again.  He scored two points from
voters who thought that corymb was too poetic to be a flower.

No. Submitter  Voted For  Old Score   Points   New Score
5.  Slakko        (Br)         9         0         9
2.  Gingham         1          7         0         7
4.  Vynd            6          1         0         1
1.  Alfvaen         7         19         2        21
6.  /dev/joe        7          7         1         8
7.  breadbox        1         10         2        12
3.  else...if       5          4         2         6

The correct definition was number 5.

Any flattish flower cluster, whatever be the order of blooming, 
or a similar shaped cluster of fruit. 

Tip to Vynd: Basque may be a wierd language, but it uses the 
Roman alphabet.

The only player to not submit a noun was The Gingham Wearer:
Pertaining to a large amount of hidden detail.

Now it is time for the Gingham Wearer to provide us with a new Ing word.

Yours,
Slakko

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 04:01:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Duel: Spades R1 T3

Lead: Queen of Spades

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 05:21:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Joshua Herreshoff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Spades

> > Hawaii: 12 noon
> > Pacific: 2pm
> > Mountain: 3pm
> > Central: 4pm
> > GMT: 10pm

The main problem with this is I'm in classes most days at 2 pm, and the
days I'm not, I'm at work, where I could e-mail rapidly, but as soon as
they needed me to do something I'd have to stop, and I can't do it on
weekends because I'm playing off a single phone line, and my room-mates get
rather angst at me if I'm tying it up with computer stuff in the middle of
the day.

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 05:27:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Joshua Herreshoff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Duel: Spades R1 T3

> Lead: Queen of Spades

8 of spades.

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 05:57:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Spades

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Joshua Herreshoff wrote:

> The main problem with this is I'm in classes most days at 2 pm, and the
> days I'm not, I'm at work, where I could e-mail rapidly, but as soon as
> they needed me to do something I'd have to stop, and I can't do it on
> weekends because I'm playing off a single phone line, and my room-mates get
> rather angst at me if I'm tying it up with computer stuff in the middle of
> the day.

Do you have an alternative suggested time?

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 08:01:06 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary Round 8: Corymb

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

> 
> Alfvaen's gone and done it again.  He scored two points from
> voters who thought that corymb was too poetic to be a flower.
> 
> No. Submitter  Voted For  Old Score   Points   New Score
> 5.  Slakko        (Br)         9         0         9
> 2.  Gingham         1          7         0         7
> 4.  Vynd            6          1         0         1
> 1.  Alfvaen         7         19         2        21
> 6.  /dev/joe        7          7         1         8
> 7.  breadbox        1         10         2        12
> 3.  else...if       5          4         2         6
> 
> The correct definition was number 5.
> 
> Any flattish flower cluster, whatever be the order of blooming, 
> or a similar shaped cluster of fruit. 
> 
> Tip to Vynd: Basque may be a wierd language, but it uses the 
> Roman alphabet.

I knew that, actually.  The hope was to get someone to vote for it and
then heckle them mercilessly.  Cuz lets face it, I'm not going to win this
one.  I may challenge you all, minus Alfvaen, to a rematch though.  This
Game has gone much faster than the other game of fictionary.

> 
> The only player to not submit a noun was The Gingham Wearer:
> Pertaining to a large amount of hidden detail.
> 

Well, this was at least as bad as my definition.

                              - Vynd

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 08:06:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Joshua Herreshoff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Spades

> > The main problem with this is I'm in classes most days at 2 pm, and the
> > days I'm not, I'm at work, where I could e-mail rapidly, but as soon as
> > they needed me to do something I'd have to stop, and I can't do it on
> > weekends because I'm playing off a single phone line, and my room-mates get
> > rather angst at me if I'm tying it up with computer stuff in the middle of
> > the day.
>
> Do you have an alternative suggested time?

Not really, the only time I can absolutely 100% e-mail is after 11:00 Pm pacific
time every night.  Slagothor could always just admit that he's the inferior
Boomerang though :)  Or we could start a less e-mail intensive duel.

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 08:43:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Fictionary Statistic

We have had 8 rounds of Fictionary so far in this game (Game 2).

In each round, there should be n people trying to guess the correct
definition out of n+1 definitions, one of which they know to be their own.
Therefore, simply by random guessing, people should be right 1/n of the
time, so that there should be, on average, 1 guesser per round getting the
definition right.

In the 8 rounds so far, there have been 4 guesses of the correct
definition - 1 in rounds 3 and 8, and 2 in round 5.

This excludes the two cases where people knew the correct definition, as I
am only looking at the voting stage.

Random chance is doing better than us Bluffers.
C'mon, lift your game!

(Alfvaen has guessed correctly 2 out of 7 times, Slakko 1 out of 6,
breadbox 1 out of 7, and no-one else has guessed correctly.  That pretty
much explains the 1,2 and 3 positions in the game).

Interestingly, looking at round 8, we see that two of the definitions
could be eliminated immediately:

Vynd's was nonsensical - there is no distinct Basque alphabet as he
admitted.
else...if's was not spelt correctly - "degernerate" instead of
"degenerate".

So, with random guessing from the Bluffers, we would expect to see
4*(1/4) + 2*(1/5) = 1.4 correct definitions.  We only saw 1.

Yours,
Slakko
wondering how well the Magic Dice can play Fictionary
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:09:40 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary Statistic

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

> We have had 8 rounds of Fictionary so far in this game (Game 2).
> 
> In each round, there should be n people trying to guess the correct
> definition out of n+1 definitions, one of which they know to be their own.
> Therefore, simply by random guessing, people should be right 1/n of the
> time, so that there should be, on average, 1 guesser per round getting the
> definition right.

You're forgetting that in several rounds, someone didn't get an entry in
and gave the default " " answer.

> 
> In the 8 rounds so far, there have been 4 guesses of the correct
> definition - 1 in rounds 3 and 8, and 2 in round 5.
> 
> This excludes the two cases where people knew the correct definition, as I
> am only looking at the voting stage.
> 
> Random chance is doing better than us Bluffers.
> C'mon, lift your game!
> 

Well, seeing as how you've already gotten it right once, it is only fair
that you be on of the people who choose's a definition at random.

> (Alfvaen has guessed correctly 2 out of 7 times, Slakko 1 out of 6,
> breadbox 1 out of 7, and no-one else has guessed correctly.  That pretty
> much explains the 1,2 and 3 positions in the game).
> 
> Interestingly, looking at round 8, we see that two of the definitions
> could be eliminated immediately:
> 
> Vynd's was nonsensical - there is no distinct Basque alphabet as he
> admitted.

I prefer whimsical.  I was pretty sure that my definition didn't really
make sense, but a I said earlier, I don't realy care anymore :)  So sue
me.

                                    - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:13:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary Statistic

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
> > In each round, there should be n people trying to guess the correct
> > definition out of n+1 definitions, one of which they know to be their own.
> > Therefore, simply by random guessing, people should be right 1/n of the
> > time, so that there should be, on average, 1 guesser per round getting the
> > definition right.
> 
> You're forgetting that in several rounds, someone didn't get an entry in
> and gave the default " " answer.

Yeah.  That only makes us look _worse_.
That's n-1 people choosing from n-1 definitions each, and 1 person
choosing from n.  That should therefore average (1 + 1/n) correct guesses.
> 
> > 
> > In the 8 rounds so far, there have been 4 guesses of the correct
> > definition - 1 in rounds 3 and 8, and 2 in round 5.
> > 
> > This excludes the two cases where people knew the correct definition, as I
> > am only looking at the voting stage.
> > 
> > Random chance is doing better than us Bluffers.
> > C'mon, lift your game!
> > 
> 
> Well, seeing as how you've already gotten it right once, it is only fair
> that you be on of the people who choose's a definition at random.

I couldn't do much worse, could I?

> 
> > Vynd's was nonsensical - there is no distinct Basque alphabet as he
> > admitted.
> 
> I prefer whimsical.  I was pretty sure that my definition didn't really
> make sense, but a I said earlier, I don't realy care anymore :)  So sue
> me.

All I was saying was that made everyone else's job easier, and still they
couldn't guess correctly.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:34:57 -0500 (EST)
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Fictionary round 9

The ing word for this round is lunicurrent. Bluffers, you have three
days. Reply to supply your definitions.

TGW, brainiac.

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 11:54:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary Statistic

>(Alfvaen has guessed correctly 2 out of 7 times, Slakko 1 out of 6,
>breadbox 1 out of 7, and no-one else has guessed correctly.  That pretty
>much explains the 1,2 and 3 positions in the game).
	I guessed right in round 8.

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	Success is the child of audacity.
		-Benjamin Disraeli

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:24:28 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Official Bacon Submission

> Since I believe the General Equipment submission of the Movie Database
> was endorsed successfully, and nobody had any big quibbles with the
> rules for Bacon as they stand, I hereby officially submit the following
> (delimited by FLATLINER) for the Games & Contests Rule Suite, as a game
> called "Bacon":

So now nobody's going to endorse the official submission?  C'mon,
people!  Despite any mistakes I made with the Equipment Submission,
I don't think it made it nonfunctional...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Dumb & Dumber Soundtrack
Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
I am you, and you are me, and we are all together in a Yellow Submarine.

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 14:13:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Official Bacon Submission

>So now nobody's going to endorse the official submission?  C'mon,
>people!  Despite any mistakes I made with the Equipment Submission,
>I don't think it made it nonfunctional...
	Sure. I endorse the Bacon game.

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	Success is the child of audacity.
		-Benjamin Disraeli

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:29:26 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Official Bacon Submission

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

>  
> > Since I believe the General Equipment submission of the Movie Database
> > was endorsed successfully, and nobody had any big quibbles with the
> > rules for Bacon as they stand, I hereby officially submit the following
> > (delimited by FLATLINER) for the Games & Contests Rule Suite, as a game
> > called "Bacon":
> 
> So now nobody's going to endorse the official submission?  C'mon,
> people!  Despite any mistakes I made with the Equipment Submission,
> I don't think it made it nonfunctional...
> 

Oh yeah, sure.  I endorse the Bacon game submission.

                                  - Vynd

[email-masked]

> 
> --
> --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
> Current Album--Dumb & Dumber Soundtrack
> Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
> I am you, and you are me, and we are all together in a Yellow Submarine.
> 

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:52:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Lantern

The Gingham Wearer wrote:

> The giants approached and Sam fired his gun. Click. "Damn!" Sam recognised
> he was in trouble. He took out his knife and resolved that if he was to die
> then he would at least try to take one of them with him.

Hey!  Where did Sam get all these weapons?  When I was done with him,
he was weaponless :-)

Malenkai
slogging through the back-from-vacation e-mail

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:38:30 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: GAD Round 3

Whew!  Yet another fast and furious round.  At this rate, we'll be done
within... um... soon!

Anywho, here's what went down this round:

Calvin N Hobbes snatched Device's donkey, which was a good thing, since
the poor donkey had gotten bored of Device staring at it.

Illusion attempted to grab The Gingham Wearer's donkey, but only got a
Little Lamb, much to his dismay.

/dev/joe hurled a lariat at his arch-nemesis Slakko, but it bounced
harmlessly off of Slakko's blanket.

rufus went for else..if's donkey, but else..if was too cool to lose his
donkey, and covered it.

The Gingham Wearer attempted to grab Goldenmean's donkey, but was foiled
by Goldenmean's play of 'Cover'.

breadbox, Rex Mundi, Alfvaen, Guy Fawkes, Bill the pirate king, and K 2
covered their donkeys.

Finally, Hachiman stood around starting at his donkey (and is starting
to make it fairly nervous, with all the lariats flying around).

Current scores:
The Gingham Wearer - 2
Rex Mundi - 1
else..if - 1
Bill the pirate king - 1
Goldenmean - 1
Slagothor - 1
Calvin N Hobbes - 1
Everyone else - 0

The new improved GAL:
Alfvaen
Bill the pirate king
breadbox
Calvin N Hobbes
/dev/joe
else..if
The Gingham Wearer
Guy Fawkes
Hachiman
Illusion
K 2
Rex Mundi
rufus
Slagothor
Slakko

Grabbers, prepare yourselves for Round 4... a Round so spine-tingling,
so nerve-jangling... well, anyway reply with your play :)

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Aaron Keesler
Lotus Notes Administrator
Intranet Administrator
Adtran, Inc.
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