Subject: Ackanomic Games Digest V2 #109
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Ackanomic Games Digest      Friday, July 4 1997      Volume 02 : Number 109

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:51:31 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

/dev/joe has won this round. The xt round begins, Alfaven starts.

Niccolo Flychuck

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> I'll take the one point and finish this thing.  The other strands are
> just too long.  I would love to surround 4 pieces at once and win the
> whole game, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
> 
> Move 20 (C):
> 
>       Cb
>      CCbb
>     AbbAA
>   CCAAb Ac
>   CbbCCacc
>   AAbCaaBB
>   A aBBcB
>   BaaBcc
>  aBBcAAb
>  aacc Abb
>       CC
>       C
> 
> /dev/joe
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:33:59 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: YORL play

> play: betrayal

betrayal is successfully played and burned.
diamond is tied off and /dev/joe receives an ale.

> I am attempting to interrupt this with the card "voices"

This interrupt is successful.  It is Vynd's turn.  The game state
is:

    Alfvaen            (4 cards)
    /dev/joe           (6 cards) (1 Ale)
    Voting Gnome       (7 cards)
- --> Vynd               (6 cards)
    Mohammed           (7 cards)
    ThinMan            (7 cards)
    [Open Bench]
    [Open Bench]

    Remaining Cards: 39
    Loose Ends:
        prophecy

    Burned Cards: 9

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 09:09:37 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

> /dev/joe has won this round. The xt round begins, Alfaven starts.

Ah, now I'm back on familiar ground...:-)

Move 1 (A)

       AA
       A

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--The Greg Kihn Band:Cheri Baby
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
If a Stealth craft crashes in a forest, does it make a sound?

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:30:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 2 (b)

       AA
      bA
      bb

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:34:40 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 3 (C)

        AA
       bA
       bbC
        CC

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--The Beatles:Revolution No. 1
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
Every word is like an unnecessary stain on silence and nothingness.

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:42:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 4 (a)

        AA
       bAaa
       bbCa
        CC

I had wondered why the rules left this little possibility for the 4th play.
I guess we'll see what it turns into.

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:56:08 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 5 (B)
 
         AABB
        bAaaB
        bbCa
         CC

> I had wondered why the rules left this little possibility for the 4th play.
> I guess we'll see what it turns into.

I wanted to try that...:-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--They Might Be Giants:Absolutely Bill's Mood
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
Look under the surface, and, if you're really lucky, there's more surface.

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:04:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 6 (c)

        cc
        cAABB
        bAaaB
        bbCa
         CC  

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:07:53 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

/dev/joe wrote:

> Move 4 (a)
> 
>         AA
>        bAaa
>        bbCa
>         CC
> 
> I had wondered why the rules left this little possibility for the 4th
> play.
> 
An oversight?  Is there any other possible configuration that would
allow the move 4 a tromino to touch the move 1 A tromino?

> I guess we'll see what it turns into.
> 
Indeed.  My first inclination would be to guess that symmetry,
especially early on, favors the first player.  To what degree, I cannot
say.

ThinMan

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:16:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

> >         AA
> >        bAaa
> >        bbCa
> >         CC

> An oversight?  Is there any other possible configuration that would
> allow the move 4 a tromino to touch the move 1 A tromino?

There are others if the second play is different, e.g.

 AAb
 Abb
aaCC
 ac

> My first inclination would be to guess that symmetry,
> especially early on, favors the first player.  To what degree, I cannot
> say.

Yeah, but the different letters break the symmetry.  The letters are what
really makes this an interesting game.

/dev/joe
Nice to see somebody else is watching the game. :-)

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:24:23 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 7 (A)

>         cc
>         cAABB
>         bAaaB
>        AbbCa
>        AACC  

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--Prince:Automatic
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
Shared pain is lessened, and shared joy is increased.

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:36:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 8 (b)

        cc
        cAABB
        bAaaB
       AbbCa
       AACCb
           bb

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:41:01 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

/dev/joe wrote:

[I wrote:]
> > An oversight?  Is there any other possible configuration that would
> > allow the move 4 a tromino to touch the move 1 A tromino?
> 
> There are others if the second play is different, e.g.
> 
Okay, that doesn't preclude an oversight, but it does make it at
least a little less likely.

> > My first inclination would be to guess that symmetry,
> > especially early on, favors the first player.  To what degree, I
> cannot
> > say.
> 
> Yeah, but the different letters break the symmetry.  The letters are
> what
> really makes this an interesting game.
> 
Indeed.

> Nice to see somebody else is watching the game. :-)
> 
I have been following the entire duel.  I am, of course, an interested
party (as /dev/joe's second), but the game goes quickly and has
relatively simple rules and thus is easy to follow.  Indeed, with
/dev/joe and Alfvaen spending as much time at their keyboards as they
(and I) apparently do, this duel seems to be going lightning quick.

ThinMan

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:53:30 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 9 (C)

         cc
         cAABB
         bAaaB
        AbbCaC
        AACCbCC
            bb

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--They Might Be Giants:Hot Cha
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
Pardon me, the cheese slipped off my cracker for a moment.

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:25:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 10 (a)

       cc
       cAABB
       bAaaB
      AbbCaC
      AACCbCCa
          bbaa

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:30:24 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 11 (B)
 
         BB
        ccB
        cAABB
        bAaaB
       AbbCaC
       AACCbCCa
           bbaa

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
Does the name "Pavlov" ring a bell?

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:37:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 12 (c)

       BB
      ccB
      cAABB
    ccbAaaB
    cAbbCaC
     AACCbCCa
         bbaa

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:44:56 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 13 (A)

      AABB
      AccB
       cAABB
     ccbAaaB
     cAbbCaC
      AACCbCCa
          bbaa

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
The apotheosis of the amanuensis

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:52:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 14 (b)

   AABB
   AccB
    cAABB
  ccbAaaB
  cAbbCaC
  bAACCbCCa
  bb   bbaa

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:56:20 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 15 (C)
 
    AABB
    AccB
     cAABB
   ccbAaaB
   cAbbCaC
   bAACCbCCa
   bbC  bbaa
    CC

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
Stupid == careful plots to assassinate the cemetery.  --billbill

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:04:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 16 (a)

    AABB
    AccB
     cAABB
   ccbAaaB
   cAbbCaC
   bAACCbCCa
   bbC abbaa
    CCaa

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:19:00 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 17 (B)

     AABB
    BAccB
    BBcAABB
    ccbAaaB
    cAbbCaC
    bAACCbCCa
    bbC abbaa
     CCaa

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
I've got a match--your embrace and my collapse.

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:24:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 18 (c)

    AABB
   BAccB
   BBcAABB
   ccbAaaBcc
   cAbbCaC c
   bAACCbCCa
   bbC abbaa
    CCaa

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:38:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 19 (A)

     AABB
    BAccB
    BBcAABB
    ccbAaaBcc
    cAbbCaC c
    bAACCbCCa
   AbbC abbaa
   AACCaa

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--Gwen Guthrie:Padlock
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
Nostalgia--stuffing seaweed cuttings up your nose

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:25:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 20 (b)

     AABB
    BAccB
    BBcAABB
    ccbAaaBcc
    cAbbCaC c
    bAACCbCCa
 bbAbbC abbaa
  bAACCaa

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:06:16 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 21 (C)

      AABB
     BAccB
     BBcAABB
     ccbAaaBcc
   C cAbbCaC c
   CCbAACCbCCa
  bbAbbC abbaa
   bAACCaa

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Firesign Theatre:The Tale of The Giant Rat of Sumatra
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
You were born, and so you're free.  So Happy Birthday.

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:51:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 22 (a)

      AABB
     BAccB
   a BBcAABB
   aaccbAaaBcc
   C cAbbCaC c
   CCbAACCbCCa
  bbAbbC abbaa
   bAACCaa

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 20:54:21 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

> Move 22 (a)

Ooh, clever.

Move 23 (B)

       AABB
   BB BAccB
   Ba BBcAABB
    aaccbAaaBcc
    C cAbbCaC c
    CCbAACCbCCa
   bbAbbC abbaa
    bAACCaa

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Billy Falcon:Pretty Blue World
Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight
Don't be too open-minded, your brains may slide out.

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