Subject: Ackanomic Games Digest V2 #105
From: [email-masked] (Ackanomic Games Digest)
To: acka-games-digest

Ackanomic Games Digest      Monday, June 30 1997      Volume 02 : Number 105

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 02:10:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: YORL play

Vynd wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
> > He pulled the ring out of a pocket inside his heavy coat, and again
> > thought about keeping the ring instead of leaving such a valuable
> > treasure behind.
> 
> Err.  Wasn't that a big diamond, not a ring?

It was a ring with a big diamond.

See the YORL archive, http://www.itw.com/~malenkai/ackayorl.htm

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 03:11:00 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Aaron Humphrey wrote:

> My move (A,12):  
(13)
> 
>      BB
>      BcAA
>     AAccA
>     AbbA
>   BBCbAA
>  cBaCCbCC
>  ccaabbCa
>        aa
> 
> That looks like a two-point win for me this round...

Yeah. it does.

I believe the next round /dev/joe should start.

Niccolo Flychuck

> 
> 
> - --
> - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
> Song In My Head--10cc:I'm Not In Love
> Current Book--Colin MacInnes:Absolute Beginners
> If you ever run across an adult in my town, let me know!
> 
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 14:21:50 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Viruses: the referee is back

As nobody else wants to the job Im offering to be referee of 
Virsuses.

Send in your moves (privately) within three days after the new Virus grid 
is published.

> Im posting the results now. 
> Sorry that it took so long. New job and so.
> 
> Guy Fawkes    Infect c10
> /dev/joe      Infect c9
> **two-star    Step I3 to j2
> Thin Man      Step k5 to j4
> mr cwm        Place L12
> Habeus Corpus Place e7
> Alfvaen       Place e13
> 
> Im forced to resign from the job of Referee. 
> So a new referee has to assigned. 

This is the old grid.
I will give 10 Ackadollar for the first that send me a correct grid 
privately.

    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P 
19  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  19 
18  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  18 
17  . . . . . . / . . . . . . . . .  17 
16  . . . . . . / / / . . . . . . .  16 
15  . . . . . . . . / . . . . . . .  15 
14  . . . A . @ / / / . . . . . . .  14 
13  . . A . . . . . . W . . . . . .  13 
12  . . @ . . A @ . . . W . . . . .  12 
11  . . / / A . W . . . . W . . . .  11 
10  . . @ . . . . W . . . . . . . .  10 
9   . . @ . . @ . . . . . . . . . .   9 
8   . . G . . . T T . * . * @ . . .   8 
7   . . G . . . . @ . @ . . T . . .   7 
6   . . @ . . . * . @ @ @ . . T . .   6 
5   . . @ . . * * . @ * T . T . . .   5 
4   . . . G . . * * * . @ @ . . . .   4 
3   . . . G G @ . . * . . . . . . .   3 
2   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   2 
1   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   1 
    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P 

CarsesraC  
Referee of Viruses 
Keeper of the Wari mailingslist.
- --
At 1-6 I started at Getronics Network Services.
So I will not have a lot of time to answer email.
Jeroen (CarsesraC)

Jeroen M.W. van Dijk

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:43:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Viruses: the referee is back

The still-vacationing CarsesraC wrote:
> As nobody else wants to the job Im offering to be referee of 
> Virsuses.

I doubt this works when you are on vacation. (See rule 255 - "the only thing
a player on vacation may legally do is take himself off vacation")

Calvin N Hobbes asked me privately about becoming the referee for Viruses,
and I suggested that he write or get from somebody else a program to handle
the calculations.  No offense intended toward either prospective referee,
but it is easy to make an error doing this manually, and CarsesraC showed
this.  I believe Guy Fawkes and Alfvaen had some sort of Viruses programs.
I have one written in python; you'll have to install the python interpreter
to make use of it.  (see http://www.python.org)

> This is the old grid.
> I will give 10 Ackadollar for the first that send me a correct grid 
> privately.

I believe the grid CarsesraC posted is the current one.

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:46:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

OK, I'll start with the ever-popular:

Move 1 (A):

   AA
   A

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 11:54:34 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Now I'll just have to make sure that I remember I'm lower-case this
game...

Move 2 (b):

>     bb
>    AAb
>    A

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--Depeche Mode:It's No Good
Current Book--Colin MacInnes:Absolute Beginners
Your brains come tumbling down your snout

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:00:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 3 (C):

     bbCC
    AAbC
    A 

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 11:59:50 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Viruses: the referee is back

> The still-vacationing CarsesraC wrote:
> > As nobody else wants to the job Im offering to be referee of 
> > Virsuses.
> 
> I doubt this works when you are on vacation. (See rule 255 - "the only thing
> a player on vacation may legally do is take himself off vacation")

If "Random Walk" passes he'll be able to post public messages soon...

> Calvin N Hobbes asked me privately about becoming the referee for Viruses,
> and I suggested that he write or get from somebody else a program to handle
> the calculations.  No offense intended toward either prospective referee,
> but it is easy to make an error doing this manually, and CarsesraC showed
> this.  I believe Guy Fawkes and Alfvaen had some sort of Viruses programs.
> I have one written in python; you'll have to install the python interpreter
> to make use of it.  (see http://www.python.org)

Mine is in Perl, which may be more easily accessible than Python.  The
biggest problem with it is that you have to apply the changes by hand,
and then edit the grid to remove the row/column labels and and spaces,
and then put them back in by hand.  I should do something about that,
but I'm lazy, and it works fine for me(I use it to guesstimate which of
the moves I'm considering will work the best).

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--The Nylons:Combat Zone
Current Book--Colin MacInnes:Absolute Beginners
Helium, molybdenum, zinc, iodine--braving the elements, the reptiles and I
   [Shriekback]

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:04:57 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 4 (a):
 
      bbCCa
     AAbCaa
     A

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--The Nylons:Combat Zone
Current Book--Colin MacInnes:Absolute Beginners
We're going to melt them down for pills and soap

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:24:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 5 (B):
 
      bbCCa
     AAbCaa
     A  BB
        B

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:48:43 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 6 (c):
  
       bbCCa
      AAbCaa
      A  BBc
         Bcc

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Icehouse:Man of Colours
Current Book--Colin MacInnes:Absolute Beginners
"Alright, FREEZE!"  "Mind if I just go tepid?"

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:55:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 7 (A):

      A
      AA
     bbCCa
    AAbCaa
    A  BBc
       Bcc

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:58:10 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 8 (b):
 
>       Abb
>       AAb
>      bbCCa
>     AAbCaa
>     A  BBc
>        Bcc

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Icehouse:Man of Colours
Current Book--Colin MacInnes:Absolute Beginners
Bowling with a brick.  It's a bad idea.

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 14:05:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 9 (C):

     Abb
   CCAAb
   CbbCCa
   AAbCaa
   A  BBc
      Bcc

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:58:12 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Viruses: the referee is back

          Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:43:04 -0500 (CDT)

> The still-vacationing CarsesraC wrote:
> > As nobody else wants to the job Im offering to be referee of 
> > Virsuses.
> 
> I doubt this works when you are on vacation. (See rule 255 - "the only thing
> a player on vacation may legally do is take himself off vacation")
> 
> Calvin N Hobbes asked me privately about becoming the referee for Viruses,
> and I suggested that he write or get from somebody else a program to handle
> the calculations.  No offense intended toward either prospective referee,
> but it is easy to make an error doing this manually, and CarsesraC showed
> this.  I believe Guy Fawkes and Alfvaen had some sort of Viruses programs.
> I have one written in python; you'll have to install the python interpreter
> to make use of it.  (see http://www.python.org)

If Calvin N Hobbes wants the job he can have it, but don't agree with 
/dev/joe that you personally have to have a program. I agree that its 
almost impossible to do it manually.

I really want to have a copy of all the three program's and pointers 
to get them running.  

> > This is the old grid.
> > I will give 10 Ackadollar for the first that send me a correct grid 
> > privately.
> 
> I believe the grid CarsesraC posted is the current one.

That means that I have give myself 10 Ackadollars :)

Sorry, about the confusion.

CarsesraC
 
- --
At 1-6 I started at Getronics Network Services.
So I will not have a lot of time to answer email.
Jeroen (CarsesraC)

Jeroen M.W. van Dijk

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:58:11 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Viruses

I forgot that I have to put myself off vacation.
Oke, Im putting myself off vacation.
Im changing my status from voting to non-voting.
Reason I have not the time to read all the ackanomic mail.
I read only the mail send to acka-games and what is send to me 
privatly.

Im offering to be the referee of viruses unless some wants to take 
over the job.
There is a small change to the rules. The three day within the next 
moves has to send in for the next round start when the referee post 
the moves present round.
Its is the job of the players to calculate the new grid.

I will make a promise to get on the programs that have been written 
get working to at I can work with it. But I as long I don't have to 
possibility of a program I have just the help of player.

I believe that this is the most correct Virus grid.

    Z A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P
19  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19
18  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18
17  . . . . . . . / . . . . . . . . . 17
16  . . . . . . . / . / . . . . . . . 16
15  . . . . . . / . . . / . . . . . . 15
14  . . . . A A @ / / / @ . . . . . . 14
13  . . . A . A . . . @ W W . . . . . 13
12  . . @ @ . . . @ . . . W W . . . . 12
11  . . @ / . A . W W . . W W . . . . 11
10  . . @ G . @ @ W . . . . . . . . . 10
 9  . . @ / @ . . . @ @ . . . . . . .  9
 8  . . @ G . . @ T T . . * * @ . . .  8
 7  . . G G . . @ . . . . . . T T . .  7
 6  . . G @ . . . * . . . @ T T T . .  6
 5  . . . @ G . * . . . . . . T . . .  5
 4  . . . G G . . . . . . @ @ . . . .  4
 3  . . . . G G @ * * . . . . . . . .  3
 2  . . . . . G . . . . . . . . . . .  2
 1  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  1
 0  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  0
    Z A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P

Player Name     Symbol    Cells     Points
Guy Fawkes        G        11          4
/dev/joe          /        10          0
mr cwm            W         9          0
ThinMan           T         8          1
two-star          *         6          0
Alfvaen           A         5          0
Voting Gnome      H         0          0

- --
At 1-6 I started at Getronics Network Services.
So I will not have a lot of time to answer email.
Jeroen (CarsesraC)

Jeroen M.W. van Dijk

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:15:28 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 10 (a):

      Abb
    CCAAb
    CbbCCa
    AAbCaa
    A aBBc
     aaBcc

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Julee Cruise:Floating Into The Night
Current Book--Colin MacInnes:Absolute Beginners
Must it be rigid and so benign?  Can't it be free and efficacious?
  [The Pursuit of Happiness]

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 18:24:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 11 (B):

    Abb
  CCAAb
  CbbCCa
  AAbCaa
  A aBBc
  BaaBcc
  BB

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:28:15 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 12 (c):

     Abb
   CCAAb
   CbbCCa
   AAbCaa
   A aBBc
   BaaBcc
   BBc
    cc

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Julee Cruise:Floating Into The Night
Current Book--Colin MacInnes:Absolute Beginners
This sentence in English is difficult to translate into French.

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 18:34:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 13 (A):

     Abb
   CCAAb
   CbbCCa
   AAbCaa
   A aBBc
   BaaBcc
   BBcAA
    cc A

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:34:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Move 14 (b):

     Abb
   CCAAb
   CbbCCa
   AAbCaa
   A aBBc
   BaaBcc
   BBcAAb
    cc Abb

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Julee Cruise:Floating Into The Night
Current Book--Colin MacInnes:Absolute Beginners
Gravity is a myth.  The Earth sucks.

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