Subject: Ackanomic Discussion Digest V2 #28
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Ackanomic Discussion Digest Wednesday, March 26 1997 Volume 02 : Number 028

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:17:47 -0500
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Financial Pythonization 

Mohammed wrote:

> I will accept the job of Financier, but remember I'm nowhere near as cool
> and efficient as Malenkai, so.  Whoever the Pres wants to appoint.

  I'd also like to state my willingness to get this done, but, again,
whoever the Pres wants.

- -Red Barn

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:17:58 -0500
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Silver Moon Candidates 

> Whenever the Senate makes a report to another Office, and then later
> changes the contents of said report one or more times, the receiving
> Officer may publically complain. In order for this complaint to have
> the effects described in this rule, it must express the sentiment "I
> didn't understand the report! You keep changing the report!"

  I, of course, think this is great (evil grin).

- -Red Barn

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:18:09 -0500
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Silver Moon Candidates 

> This public complaining may only be exercised 3 times by any
> Officer. If the Officer manages to legitimately exercise this ability
> 3 times within a 48 hour period, they will be dubbed a Frazzled
> Officer. If the Officer manages to legitimately exercise this ability
> 3 times within a 24 hour period, they will instead be dubbed a
> Frazzled-Frantic Officer. Also the Senate is impeached.

  Oh, except that as its phrased now, the Senate is automatically and
continuously impeached.  Probably.

- -Red Barn

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:59:15 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Treasure

Phil Ackley wrote:
> 
> I am creating a treasure consisting of the Little Bag O' Chips G, the
> Thring, the Fibber the Low-Grade Brass-Painted Cheapo Plastic Flea, the
> Pumpkin Patch,and the The Bagel of Uestiox.
> 
> The map is 121k, so I will not send it to the list.  If you wish to have a
> copy of it let me know and I will email it to you.
> 
> snowgod
I wish to have a copy of your map.

Strider
lurking

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:00:44 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Trinket

Jason Orendorff wrote:
> --Mohammed
> priest of Postal
Does this mean we get to see prayers about the mail?  

Strider
whimsical

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:23:51 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 363 (Strider)

Malenkai wrote:
> 
> Strider has been chosen.
> 
> Clerk of the Courts
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Call For Judgement 363
>   Subject: Contempt
> Initiator: snowgod
>     Judge: Strider (selected Mar 25, 1997, 11:46h EST)
> Judgement:
> 
> Statement:
> 
> Each senator is in Contempt.
> 
> snowgod's Reasoning:
> 
>         Cycle eleven ended on Mar 13 at 17:13 EST.  It was longer than
> thirty days in length and a Commission d'Arts at the beginning of the next
> cycle by R670:
> 
> >1) Upon the end of a cycle which exceeded 30 days in length, or as
> >otherwise directed by the rules, The "Commission d'Arts" (Commission)
> >shall begin session, which shall last for 7 days. The Senators shall be
> >the Commissioners, thus composing this body. Exception: No Commission
> >shall be started if it has been less than 60 days since any previous one
> >has been started.
> 
>         The Commission lasted 7 days (until March 20th) at which time a
> report was due from the senate listing the nominees for the Silver Moon
> award.
> 
> >2) At the end of the session, the Commission shall produce, and publically
> >post, a report listing 4 Nominees for the Silver Moon award. A Nominee
> >must be a work of art from Acka's past, such as a Silly Vacation Hat
> >description, Phoebe post, Gaoler poem, Prosthetic Forehead, etc. Rules,
> >Proposals, and other written works are also permissible, but are
> >discouraged as Nominees, unless they are truly meritorious. One constraint
> >is that the Nominee must be publically accessible from a web page
> >maintained by the Web-Harfer. Material created by non-active players is
> >discouraged as a Nominee.
> 
>         No nominees were produced until Mon, 24 Mar 1997 at 07:46:24 (PST).
> Thus the senators are held in Contempt in accordance with section 4 of R670.
> 
> >4) If the Commission fails to produce the report in within the constraints
> >of this rule, each Senator is placed in Contempt.
I accept this.

Strider

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:46:44 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Treasure

>I wish to have a copy of your map.
>
>Strider
>lurking

  It's been found already.

- -Red Barn

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:28:50 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1801 accepted (Dealing With The Paranormal)

> I seem to have cast 2 votes on this proposal, an ability I don't mind
> possessing, but I did feel I ought to point it out.
	Uh, yes; I believe the NO vote came after the PRESENT vote.

- --Mohammed

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:58:44 -0800
From: [email-masked] (fnord)
Subject: Re: Acka: P1801 accepted (Dealing With The Paranormal)

Mohammed writes:
> P1801 was accepted. 

I could have sworn that P1801 had been retracted.  I know I sent
my votes for that batch of mail based upon the list of proposals
up for vote I got in response to a #current command to the bot.

> My apologies to Calvin for not noticing the list thing.

Unless what is being referred to is an attempt at a retraction
that occurred in the wrong mailing list.

Anyway, I guess I must have abstained from this one.

One last question, though.  Will Proposal 1846 have
an adverse effect?

fnord

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:25:34 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Treasure 

>Phil Ackley wrote:
>>
>> I am creating a treasure consisting of the Little Bag O' Chips G, the
>> Thring, the Fibber the Low-Grade Brass-Painted Cheapo Plastic Flea, the
>> Pumpkin Patch,and the The Bagel of Uestiox.
>>
>> The map is 121k, so I will not send it to the list.  If you wish to have a
>> copy of it let me know and I will email it to you.
>>
>> snowgod
>I wish to have a copy of your map.
>
>Strider
>lurking

Look at http://wwww.alaska.net/~snowgod/acka/map.html

If you are unable to do that and you still want to see it even though it
has benen found I willl happily email it to you.

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:46:25 -0500
From: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: Acka: RFC: AckaGuide 

>That sounds like a useful document to have.  I'm all for it, and would
>be happy to review it during its preparation, if so requested.  There
>are several players who could give you a substantial amount of
>information of potential use, though the Historian (breadbox, right?)
>is the only one with an official mandate to provide any such.

Grrreat...thanks to everyone who responded with the requested enthusiasm. :v)

I'll be posting the AckaGuide periodically to my Web page - the Guide itself
will be located at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2042/guide.htm
Comments are cordially invited at [email-masked] . I worked on it for
a while today, and got through the structure of a proposal and the scoring
of points - next is the structure of a CFJ, and how the Judging system works
(I'm actually taking this seriously...Acka has already changed me!). Don't
expect anything Earth-shaking yet, BTW...this is the draft of this document.
I'm by no means ready for publication - consider this a beta version of the
AckaGuide. Thanks...and remember, please write in!

You can call me Al

(The first part of the beta Guide is now online at the above address!)
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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:09:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1801 accepted (Dealing With The Paranormal)

> > P1801 was accepted. 
> I could have sworn that P1801 had been retracted.  I know I sent
> my votes for that batch of mail based upon the list of proposals
> up for vote I got in response to a #current command to the bot.
	I could have sworn that this was the case as well.  The bot was 
under the mistaken impression, all week, that P1801 was retracted March 
17.

> > My apologies to Calvin for not noticing the list thing.
> Unless what is being referred to is an attempt at a retraction
> that occurred in the wrong mailing list.
	That's exactly what happened, unfortunately.

> One last question, though.  Will Proposal 1846 have
> an adverse effect?
	Yes, I believe it will.  Good question.

- -- Mohammed

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:16:13 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Nominations 

>I would be obliged if someone would tell me how long the nomination
>period for the Financier will last.  I still can't access the web pages.
>
>Strider
>President

3 days.  Until then it would be considered good form (okay, well, actually
you have to) appoint an Acting Officer to do the job unless you want to do
it all yourself.

snowgod
Epresident
ExActing Tabulator

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:20:41 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Nominations

snowgod wrote:

> 3 days.  Until then it would be considered good form (okay, well, actually
> you have to) appoint an Acting Officer to do the job unless you want to do
> it all yourself.

Except the acting officer thing only applies in the case of vacations.
You can of course get someone to unofficially handle logging the
transactions for you until someone is appointed.

Malenkai
who still has the flu, don'e expect effeciency

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:49:45 -0600
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: New TMBG collection 

Has anyone else bought "Then: The Earlier Years", the new TMBG collection?
It's excellent...

Robert Sevin aka Tambo

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:12:12 -0600 (CST)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 131 (breadbox) 

>Call for Criminal Judgement 131
>
>Robert Sevin has committed a crime.

Oh come on. This has to be the saddest thing I've seen. Not only is the
reasoning wrong, Robert Sevin never got two votes it was just incorrectly
recorded, but that wasn't really Mohammed's fault but mine. I should have
known how to make the retraction correctly.

So if anyone should be punished, it should be me.
Calvin N Hobbes

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:56:03 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Land Purchases 

>Acoording to our records, Cow Town Hotel is currently haunted by
>Brinjal's undead. It cannot be bought or sold. You need to write a
>proposal that tells Brinjal's undead to stop haunting Cow Town Hotel
>first.
>
>breadbox
>senator, seat sinecure 33

I am almost positive that the Hotels rule allows for this situation.  If a
hotel's owner leaves the game it's ownership reverts to the treasury.

snowgod
who is about to do the research

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:59:01 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New TMBG collection 

>Has anyone else bought "Then: The Earlier Years", the new TMBG collection?
>It's excellent...
>
>Robert Sevin aka Tambo

I have it and I LOVE it.  15 xtra tracks! Woo-Hoo!  All my oldest most
favorite TMBG songs AND a whole bunch of songs I havn't heard (or have
heard bt havn't found on CD before!)

snowgod
happy as a clam

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:10:29 -0600
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New TMBG collection 

>I have it and I LOVE it.  15 xtra tracks! Woo-Hoo!  All my oldest most
>favorite TMBG songs AND a whole bunch of songs I havn't heard (or have
>heard bt havn't found on CD before!)

I am particularly fond of "Greek #3", which I had never heard before. I had
heard most of the extra tracks previously, but as you say, it was still
worth it to have them on CD.

>snowgod
>happy as a clam

And we both know how happy clams are. Myself, I would describe myself as
"Happy as a dzo". And we all know that a dzo is an animal that is a cross
between a domesticated yak and a water buffalo. Well, those of us who
decided it would be interesting to read the dictionary in 9th grade
certainly know that. Harf.

Robert Sevin

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:20:06 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New TMBG collection 

>And we both know how happy clams are. Myself, I would describe myself as
>"Happy as a dzo". And we all know that a dzo is an animal that is a cross
>between a domesticated yak and a water buffalo. Well, those of us who
>decided it would be interesting to read the dictionary in 9th grade
>certainly know that. Harf.
>
>Robert Sevin

Robert Sevin:  Grab your brother and come to IRC.  I want to learn more
about dzos

snowgod

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