Subject: Ackanomic Discussion Digest V2 #10
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Ackanomic Discussion Digest   Monday, March 10 1997   Volume 02 : Number 010

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 00:14:34 -0600
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Spend Saturday night on IRC! 

IRC is the place to be this Saturday night. Stop by and Ghost the night away...

Robert Sevin

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 02:39:13 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Poetismatical

As I am up for the office of Mad Scientist, here is my contribution 
to your happiness...

My first creature shall be named Kevin Phillips Bong, the Slightly 
Silly...

And here is a poem I wrote (one of the many) in praise of the 
voters...

What is a voter, beast, fowl or man?
He is not packaged meat like a can of Spam
He is the hero who gives us a reason to live
Like Ghost on IRC and mashing chickens through a sieve

To the voter I am thankful and always will be
If I had a vote for every bison I can see
I'd need a great deal more bison in my yard
But voting, ain't easy...it's actually quite hard

So what do we owe this great being called voter
A moose or a chicken?  A ferrari or a scooter?
We owe him quite a lot for his job is a tough one
We all owe him our gratitude, and a big, sloppy, wet one

A duck that is.

- ---
Ackers
[email-masked]

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:44:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 352 (breadbox)

> It has been reassigned to breadbox.
> 
> Clerk of the Courts
> --------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > I regretfully decline to judge the CFJ.
> > 
> > Robert Sevin
> > 
> > At 10:12 PM 3/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Robert Sevin has been chosen.
> > >
> > >Clerk of the Courts
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >Call For Judgement 352
> > >  Subject: Renaming Houses III
> > >Initiator: Mohammed

I thought that Purple Robe would never kick in....

I accept this.

breadbox

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 04:24:02 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Reorganization

Here is an idea I've been playing with and I want to see what you 
think of it.  I am thinking of writing a proposal to do the 
following...(this isn't an official RFC, just want some feedback)

Reorganize the government.  Firstly, remove the senate, and keep only 
the President.  
Secondly, create a senate/council/commission/department for each area 
of Acka, ie G&C, web-harfing, financial, administration, etc...each 
council consists of 3 voting players.  These councils will handle the 
day-to-day operations of their department.  
Each of these offices is elected with a term limit.  These would be 
general elections.  (all players, including non-voting ones may vote 
for president)
All the offices of each department make up the new Senate.  When a 
proposal is distributed, this Senate votes on the proposal, with a 
majority accepting.  If the proposal is accepted, it is handed to the 
President to Sign or Veto.  If it is signed, it becomes a rule.  If 
not, the senate can overrule the President with a 2/3rds re-vote.  
At any time, an officer (including the President) can be impeached by 
a 2/3rds vote from Senate.

The number of officers in each dept is flexible, growing if there are 
more needed, but starting with 3.  

Essentially this is more like the system in the US.  The only time 
each player may actually cast a vote, is when voting for officials.  
Given the current number of players who actually vote, I don't think 
system would leave too many out.  It would also make the game easier 
for newbies, who would not have to directly deal with the rules 
unless they want to.  I have not here defined the offices in much 
detail, but I think you can get the general idea.  Let me know what 
you think.

- ---
Ackers
[email-masked]

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:08:58 +0200 (EET)
From: Niccolo Flychuck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Reorganization

On Sun, 9 Mar 1997 [email-masked] wrote:

> Here is an idea I've been playing with and I want to see what you 
> think of it.  I am thinking of writing a proposal to do the 
> following...(this isn't an official RFC, just want some feedback)
> 
> Reorganize the government.  Firstly, remove the senate, and keep only 
> the President.  
> Secondly, create a senate/council/commission/department for each area 
> of Acka, ie G&C, web-harfing, financial, administration, etc...each 
> council consists of 3 voting players.  These councils will handle the 
> day-to-day operations of their department.  
> Each of these offices is elected with a term limit.  These would be 
> general elections.  (all players, including non-voting ones may vote 
> for president)

The above part needs some work, I'd rather see less exclusive control over
areas. That is more checks and balances. But generally it's an interesting
direction.

 > All the offices of each department make up the new Senate. When a 
> proposal is distributed, this Senate votes on the proposal, with a 
> majority accepting.  If the proposal is accepted, it is handed to the 
> President to Sign or Veto.  If it is signed, it becomes a rule.  If 
> not, the senate can overrule the President with a 2/3rds re-vote.  
> At any time, an officer (including the President) can be impeached by 
> a 2/3rds vote from Senate.

No. I'm completely against that. It goes against the whole grain of nomic
as I see it. It's not a matter of being left out, but nomic will not be
fun for me if under an indirect reprsentational government.

 > 
> The number of officers in each dept is flexible, growing if there are 
> more needed, but starting with 3.  
> 
> Essentially this is more like the system in the US.  The only time 
> each player may actually cast a vote, is when voting for officials.  
> Given the current number of players who actually vote, I don't think 
> system would leave too many out.  It would also make the game easier 
> for newbies, who would not have to directly deal with the rules 
> unless they want to.  I have not here defined the offices in much 
> detail, but I think you can get the general idea.  Let me know what 
> you think.

I'm totally against this.

Niccolo Flychuck

> 
> 
> ---
> Ackers
> [email-masked]
> 

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Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 10:49:50 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Trinket Creation

Malenkai wrote:
> 
> Stephen McCulley wrote:
> >
> > Salutations!!
> >
> > I am creating a Trinket called "The IRC Trout of Slapping"
> > It is worth A$10
> >
> > Strider
> 
> This does not happen.  No description was provided.
> 
> Malenkai
> Financier
<Sigh> I forgot.

I am creating a trinket known as the IRC Trout of Slapping.  For all
intents and purposes, it is a live trout...except for the fact that its
3 feet long, and doesn't smell like a fish.

Strider
- -10 Trinket creation

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:02:28 -0800
From: [email-masked] (John Martin Lotz)
Subject: Acka: Is e or isn't e

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Is Smiley undead?

Undead harfer
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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:22:16 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: GAD 

hrrmmm... I don't remember asking not to be in the GAD game...

Narf

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:24:05 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Chess 

<grumble>

I owe Snowgod A$100 but he has promised me a double or nothing rematch
tomorrow night.

Narf

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:50:29 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Mad Scientist 

Late one night in Acme Labs,
Something stirred on one of the slabs.
A monster, fiend, despicable and fowl
slowly rose and began to prowl.
His face was ugly, scarred, disfigured,
His body racked with disease uncured.
His clothes hung off him tattered and torn
His shoes were new when Kennedy was born.

Oh dear voters, trusted friends and chums
Keepers of the sacred rules, spirit and customs!
How clever you are to spot a scam, to see a trick
To block a con, to stop it quick!
What creature is this that threatens the Harf!
Never fear, 'tis only Narf.

Narf for Mad Scientist!!!

And remember... yes on 1775

Narf

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Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 13:53:40 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Chess

[email-masked] wrote:
> 
> <grumble>
> 
> I owe Snowgod A$100 but he has promised me a double or nothing rematch
> tomorrow night.
> 
> Narf
Will there be a posting of the moves?

- -Strider

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:21:32 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Chess 

>[email-masked] wrote:
>>
>> <grumble>
>>
>> I owe Snowgod A$100 but he has promised me a double or nothing rematch
>> tomorrow night.
>>
>> Narf
>Will there be a posting of the moves?
>
>
>-Strider

I had hoped to post the moves but neither Narf or I can find our log files.
Perhaps one of the observers kept a record, though I really doubt it. Sorry
about that.

In case your curious though, it was one of the bloodiest chess games I've
played in a while.  All out no holds barred chess of attrition.

snowgod

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Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 18:49:54 -0500
From: randy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Is e or isn't e

Jammer wrote:
 
> Is Smiley undead?

My reading of the rules indicates both BuzzBee and Smiley
are deregistered, yet neither have an undead.  I also note
that the GAD posted by snowgod does not accurately reflect this.

Malenkai

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:30:37 -0600
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: IRC 

I hereby summon all of you to Acka IRC so I can play some Ghost!

Robert Sevin

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 21:57:00 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka:Diplomacy 

At the request of Ludwig, I am seeking a replacement player for Turkey.  I
apologize for the inconvenience this causes.  If we can get a replacement by
tomorrow afternoon, Turkey will move.  If not... well... this does come after
the deadline, so without express consent of the remaining 6 players I'll
process moves as normal tomorrow afternoon.

Any takers for what will most likely be a mercy position?

Narf

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:58:10 -0800
From: "Ross Morgan-Linial" <[email-masked]>
Subject: IRC!

Get to IRC! Non-players welcome!
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Antimatter * [email-masked]
You have the power of negation.

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:41:04 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Big Brass Balls

I am creating a trinket named "Pair of Big Brass Balls," with a value of
A$50  Description:

The balls are each approximately 2 feet in diameter.  They are made of
solid brass, and have been polished to the point of near luminesence.
They are extremely heavy, and make a loud *thud* if knocked together.

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