Subject: Ackanomic Discussion Digest V2 #3
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Ackanomic Discussion Digest   Tuesday, March 4 1997   Volume 02 : Number 003

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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:35:12 -0800
From: "Ross Morgan-Linial" <[email-masked]>
Subject: IRC trouble

This isn't working at all.
I think it's network trouble.
Bye. Tell everyone I left.
(sorry, I can't reconnect to IRC now)
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Antimatter * [email-masked]
You have the power of negation.

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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:44:37 -0800
From: "Ross Morgan-Linial" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: IRC trouble

Oops, didn't mean to send that to the list. Sorry.
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Antimatter * [email-masked]
You have the power of negation.

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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:58:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Machine (CnH)

>> This is wrong.  The truth was only posted today, so the machine doesn't
>> start *ping*ing until tomorrow. 
> 
> It is publically knowable that the scholar ran afoul of part of
> the machine rule, therefore the machine teleports to another player's
> house, in this case it teleports to breadbox.

Wow. I remember when I first joined this game, I got bombarded with
CFJs for a while - then suddenly they stopped. And from then on I
didn't get randomly selected for anything, except for one or two Magic
Potatoes. And then: Phoebe and the Machine land in my lap in the same
week.

But CnH losing the Machine is interesting. Changing the rules to use
"publically knowable" instead of the results of a CFCJ means that any
time a Scholar errs, their game is immediately over. That would have
included Guy Fawkes posting a day late, and /dev/joe missing an "r",
if the rule had been written this way originally. I hadn't thought of
this at the time I voted, but this new rule doesn't give us the choice
of letting a mistake go by so that we can see the game to its end. We
may want to reconsider this at some point.

Though, it could also be argued that this will just keep the Scholars
on their toes more.

BTW: I believe Niccolo Flychuck still has the Pedestal of *Ping*? If
he could pass it on to me, I'd be ever so grateful.

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:31:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New (Old?) Observer

> We have a new Observer to Ackanomic.  Some of you may know him already.
> Please welcome [email-masked] (Ackers) to Ackanomic.

Oh, my. Wow.

Welcome back, Ackers (aka Bobalugah Rajiboo, aka The Great Old One)!

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 03:48:04 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: New (Old?) Observer

> Oh, my. Wow.
> 
> Welcome back, Ackers (aka Bobalugah Rajiboo, aka The Great Old One)!

 That's not me, I tell you.  I am Ackers, and have never been anyone 
else.  You have me confused with another person, or huge creature 
with octopus-like tentacles on it's face.

- ---
[email-masked]

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 08:28:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:Aliens

On Sat, 1 Mar 1997 [email-masked] wrote:

> Idiot Boy!  What is the Name of your Radio Network!  I will do my best to 
> sponsor and support it if I can.
> Ludwig
> 

EEL -- Excellence En Lying.  Ok, it's a stretch, but that's what I am known
for!

IB
afraid he's started something

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:32:47 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: ThinMan

snowgod wrote:

>Is ThinMan's clock off?  I though I saw a messagfe from him when I was
>downloading my mail, but when I went to read it it wasn't there.  I sort
>messages by time sent (yeah, silly, I know) so I thought maybe his clock
>was off.

This morning my clock is correct to within a few minutes.  I have no
reason to believe that it was substantially wrong at any time in the
recent past.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:12:59 -0800
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka:  Band

Good Job Recruiting, Jammer
What do You Play Smiley?  We need a vocal and a guitar, and maybe an extra 
special something.
Ludwig

On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, [email-masked] (John Martin Lotz) wrote:
>
>Done
>
>Tie # 6 to Smiley
>

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 10:28:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: RoJ #6.

I own RoJ frament #6.  I want PFbonds.

Nuff said-
IB

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:12:09 -0500 (EST)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Yet Another New Player

I've made a particular point of not visiting other nomics.  Are we really
that much sillier than everyone else?

- -mr cwm

On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, snowgod wrote:

>We have yet another new player in Ackanomic.  His real name is Wally
>Holland and his email address is [email-masked].  For his
>Ackanomic name he has chosen You can call me Al.
>
>Can he call us betty? Anyway, I have been selected as his Mentor.
>
>In response to the Market Research Question he writes:
>>All right! Actually, I think I heard about Ackanomic by linking to it from
>>Suber's page. I found some info on Nomic in general, read the ruleset, then
>>went browsing for more info...visited Agora a few times, considered joining,
>>put it all on hold for about a year, then came back to the Nomic site(s) out
>>of curiosity and randomly chose the "silly Nomic game".
>>
>>More than you wanted to know, right? :v)
>
>Let's welcome him to Ackanomic!
>
>snowgod
>Resgistrar
>
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 12:35:10 -0500
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Yet Another New Player 

At 11:12 AM 3/3/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I've made a particular point of not visiting other nomics.  Are we really
>that much sillier than everyone else?
>
>-mr cwm

I guess I should speak up at some point or another...

I guess I wrote that answer quickly. To clarify...Ackanomic struck me as
being the most...er, unconsciously humorous. Whereas the Pumpkin Patch is
outlandish, Acka seemed, from the ruleset and archives (which I spent a
ludicrous amount of time browsing this week) to be...well, silly in a clever
way. Agora's too serious, from what I've read, and others I've not visited.

Oh yeah, it's nice to be here, BTW. :v)

You can call me Al
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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 10:11:04 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Official Stuff

Malenkai wrote: 
> 3) I believe its a bond cycle monday
It is indeed a bond cycle monday.  I'll post those tonight sometime.

Strider

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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 10:15:45 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Yet Another New Player

[email-masked] wrote:
> Oh yeah, it's nice to be here, BTW. :v)
> 
> You can call me Al
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Al,(can I call you Al?:) speaking both as a president and a Whamiol
owner, let me just say that its great to have you here.  Hope you enjoy
it as much as I have!

Strider
President

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 10:14:15 -0800
From: [email-masked] (fnord)
Subject: Acka:  Silly or not?

You can call me Al writes:
> mr cwm wrote:
> >I've made a particular point of not visiting other nomics.  Are we really
> >that much sillier than everyone else?
> 
> I guess I wrote that answer quickly. To clarify...Ackanomic struck me as
> being the most...er, unconsciously humorous. Whereas the Pumpkin Patch is
> outlandish, Acka seemed, from the ruleset and archives (which I spent a
> ludicrous amount of time browsing this week) to be...well, silly in a clever
> way. Agora's too serious, from what I've read, and others I've not visited.

Just to add another point of view, I'll chime in.  I've taken a look at a 
couple other nomics, most notably Imperial/Fascist and the FRC (thanks to
Swann's cool Nomic page).  I'd have to agreee with You can call me Al's 
assessment of Acka as being 'unconcsiously humorous.'  We don't try to 
go for totally outlandish humour here (not a lot of the time, anyway).
Taking a look at some of the fascist games, I've realized
that what we do here in Acka may be odd and sometimes strange,
we're nowhere near the weirdness that can be reached in a game.

This isn't to saythat Acka is an uninteresting game, quite the opposite.
Our harfiness comes with the extra bonus that we do it in moderation.

fnord

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:36:40 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Yet Another New Player 

Welcome to the game, You can call me Al.  Question... that's a long name, can
I just call you Al?

I offer A$15 for 5 pfBond You can call me al.

Narf

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:41:10 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Yet Another New Player

> I've made a particular point of not visiting other nomics.  Are we really
> that much sillier than everyone else?

Quite.  But it's a clever, harfish kinda silliness.  We're the crazy 
half-brother that no one wants to admit exists of the nomic world.  
Agora is much more serious than Acka.  Of course, their game is 
rules are probably more stable than Acka's, but, hey, what good is 
stability without a good witch burning now and then.
 
- ---
Ackers
[email-masked]

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:42:28 +0000
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: RERS a Death Cult!

Permit me the following observation, and if it has been made before, 
ignore this completely and label me a looney...

Upon examining the ruleset, I came across the rule describing the 
Round Earth Restoration Society.  If my understanding of Ackanomican 
geography is correct, it seems to me that RERS is going to destroy 
Ackanomica.  If the hemispheres are joined together, would that not 
crush Acka in the middle?  Does the RERS secretely want to destroy 
Ackanomica?
- ---
Ackers
[email-masked]

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:49:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: RERS a Death Cult!

On Mon, 3 Mar 1997 [email-masked] wrote:

> Permit me the following observation, and if it has been made before, 
> ignore this completely and label me a looney...

Oh no, don't let them convince you you are a looney!  Listen to me IdiotBOy
weekdays noon to 3 eastern on the EEL radio network.

EEL, let the truth be told!

IB
Chutzpah on loan from Joe Columbo

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:17:16 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka:Monopoly 

Well... I have retracted proposal #1760 and resubmitted it (again).

changes include more white space, and rewording of the rules to avoid the
street paradox pointed out by Malenkai.

Narf

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:18:06 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka:Irc 

There is a raging ghost game going in IRC right now... come join the fun!

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:42:44 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Official Stuff

Strider wrote:
> Malenkai wrote: 
> > 3) I believe its a bond cycle monday
> It is indeed a bond cycle monday.  I'll post those tonight sometime.

The scoring for the proposal results released today, which I have
not processed yet, happened after noon, ackanomic time, so the scores on
the web page now are the ones for the end of the bond cycle.

Scores at noon, EST, Monday Mar 3:

Score	Ackanomic Name   Status  Real Name
- -----	--------------      ---  -------------
201	Malenkai             Ag  (Randy Hall) 
141	/dev/joe             A   (Joseph DeVincentis) 
80	Strider              A   (Jason McCulley)
79	Niccolo Flychuck     A   (Uri Bruck) 
67	snowgod              A   (Phil Ackley) 
56	mr cwm               A   (Eric Murray) 
46	Swann               IV   (Steven Swiniarski) 
48	Narf                 A   (Joshua Nave)
44	Lestrade             A   (John Duncan) 
34	fnord                A   (Michael Thomas) 
32	ThinMan              A   (John Bollinger) 
32	Mohammed             A   (Jason Orendorff) 
17	Ludwig               A   (Chris Lundberg)
14	Calvin N Hobbes      A   (Thierry Joffrain) 
8	breadbox             A   (Brian Raiter) 
4	IdiotBoy             A   (Matt Miller)
0	BuzzBee             NI   (John Coifman)
0	23 Skidoo            I   (David Thomas Fisher) 
0	Clairence           II   (Clair Anthony Viglione) 
0	Panther              N   (Terry McKechnie)
0	Smiley               N   (Kyle Gullings)
0	Vynd                 N   (John McCoy)
0	You can call me Al   N   (Wally Holland)
- -2	Techno               A   (Jerome Herrman) 
- -11	Jammer               A   (John Lotz) 
- -19	Bascule              Vv  (Matt Black) 
- -29	Robert Sevin         Av  (Mitchell Harding) 
- -29	Red Barn            II   (Daniel Knapp)

Status: 
A=Active, N=New, V=Vacationing, IV=Involuntary Vacation, I=On Ice,
D=Dead, R=Returning (non-active), v=Victory Eggplant, g=Chartreuse Goose,
f=has a Frobbed widget of Yendor

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:56:19 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: RERS a Death Cult!

Observer and Ackanomic Founder Ackers wrote:
> Upon examining the ruleset, I came across the rule describing the 
> Round Earth Restoration Society.  If my understanding of Ackanomican 
> geography is correct, it seems to me that RERS is going to destroy 
> Ackanomica.  If the hemispheres are joined together, would that not 
> crush Acka in the middle?  Does the RERS secretely want to destroy 
> Ackanomica?

This only happens if and when the second hemisphere is reattached to
the earth.  Yes, I was aware of this when I made the initial contribution
to the RERS.  Hopefully, some technology will be developed to transport
Ackanomic out onto the second hemisphere (or the top side of the reattached
first hemisphere) before the second hemisphere is attached to the earth,
should that ever happen; I certainly do not want to crush Ackanomic inside
of the earth.

/dev/joe

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