Subject: RE: spoon-business: Ballot, nweek 21
From: "Harrison, Andrew" <[email-masked]>
To: 'Nomic Business' <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:17:26 +0100

> The ballot for nweek 21 is as follows:
> 
> P465/0, Fix the Showdown, by PurpleBob
No. 
I think the players should privately tell the dealer which cards they want
to play. With posting it to the public forum it means you can decide if
you're going to play or not by seeing what's in other players hands.

> P466/1, Remove the debt system, by Joerg
Yes.
I'm not 100% happy with the way this is done, but I want to get rid of the
debt system so I'll go with it.

One thing I don't like are proposals that create a rule that automatically
repeals itself or other rules. There is no need for it. Why propose "Create
a rule that does X and once X has been done repeal the rule." when you can
just propose "Do X"?

--
The Kid

Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:44:27 +0000 (GMT)
From: "David E. Smith" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Another week, another free Go stone.
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I claim my free stone for the week, and place it at d8.

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 4 . . . J . . . . . . . . . . C . . . .
 5 . J . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . .
 6 . . . . . . M . . . . . . . . C . . .
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10 . D . . D . . . K . K . . . B . . . .
11 . . D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . .
13 . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . .
14 . . . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . . .
15 . P . . P . . . . . S . . . . S . . .
16 P . . . . . G . . . . . S . . . . . .
17 . . G . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . .
18 . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . . . . .
19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Z

     Name                      Allies
----------------------------------------
  J  Joel                      C
  P  PurpleBob                 C,K,D
  C  Poulenc                   P,K,D,M
  S  Jeff Schroeder            B,G,Z
  K  The Kid                   C,P,D,W,M
  G  Joerg                     B,S
  Z  Zagarna                   none
  B  Benjamin                  S,G,K
  D  Dave                      K,C,P
  M  M'cachessilnath           none
  W  Blast Lex Monk Pal        none

...dave

From: [email-masked]
Subject: spoon-business: Go Move
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:46:08 -0400
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I claim my free stone for the week, and place it at r14.

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 4 . . . J . . . . . . . . . . C . . . .
 5 . J . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . .
 6 . . . . . . M . . . . . . . . C . . .
 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 8 . . . D . . . . K . K . . . . C . . .
 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . .
10 . D . . D . . . K . K . . . B . . . .
11 . . D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . .
13 . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . .
14 . . . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . S .
15 . P . . P . . . . . S . . . . S . . .
16 P . . . . . G . . . . . S . . . . . .
17 . . G . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . .
18 . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . . . . .
19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Z

     Name                      Allies
----------------------------------------
  J  Joel                      C
  P  PurpleBob                 C,K,D
  C  Poulenc                   P,K,D,M,J
  S  Jeff Schroeder            B,G,Z
  K  The Kid                   C,P,D,W,M,B
  G  Joerg                     B,S
  Z  Zagarna                   S
  B  Benjamin                  S,G,K
  D  Dave                      K,C,P
  M  M'cachessilnath           C,K
  W  Blast Lex Monk Pal        K

To: [email-masked]
Subject: spoon-business: Go move
From: Joel Uckelman <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:03:48 -0500
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I claim my free stone for the nweek, and place it at c7.

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 5 . J . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . .
 6 . . . . . . M . . . . . . . . C . . .
 7 . . J . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 8 . . . D . . . . K . K . . . . C . . .
 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . .
10 . D . . D . . . K . K . . . B . . . .
11 . . D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . .
13 . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . .
14 . . . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . S .
15 . P . . P . . . . . S . . . . S . . .
16 P . . . . . G . . . . . S . . . . . .
17 . . G . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . .
18 . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . . . . .
19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Z

     Name                      Allies
----------------------------------------
  J  Joel                      C
  P  PurpleBob                 C,K,D
  C  Poulenc                   P,K,D,M,J
  S  Jeff Schroeder            B,G,Z
  K  The Kid                   C,P,D,W,M,B
  G  Joerg                     B,S
  Z  Zagarna                   S
  B  Benjamin                  S,G,K
  D  Dave                      K,C,P
  M  M'cachessilnath           C,K
  W  Blast Lex Monk Pal        K

-- 
J.

Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:08:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Benjamin Bradley <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Go move
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I claim my free stone for the nweek, and place it at m10.

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 5 . J . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . .
 6 . . . . . . M . . . . . . . . C . . .
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 8 . . . D . . . . K . K . . . . C . . .
 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . .
10 . D . . D . . . K . K . B . B . . . .
11 . . D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . .
13 . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . .
14 . . . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . S .
15 . P . . P . . . . . S . . . . S . . .
16 P . . . . . G . . . . . S . . . . . .
17 . . G . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . .
18 . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . . . . .
19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Z

     Name                      Allies
----------------------------------------
  J  Joel                      C
  P  PurpleBob                 C,K,D
  C  Poulenc                   P,K,D,M,J
  S  Jeff Schroeder            B,G,Z
  K  The Kid                   C,P,D,W,M,B
  G  Joerg                     B,S
  Z  Zagarna                   S
  B  Benjamin                  S,G,K
  D  Dave                      K,C,P
  M  M'cachessilnath           C,K
  W  Blast Lex Monk Pal        K

-- 
J.

Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:24:09 -0400
From: Rob Speer <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: spoon-business: Go move
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I take my free stone and play it at h12.

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 8 . . . D . . . . K . K . . . . C . . .  
 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . .
10 . D . . D . . . K . K . B . B . . . .
11 . . D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
12 . . . . . . . P . . . . . . B . . . .
13 . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . .
14 . . . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . S .
15 . P . . P . . . . . S . . . . S . . .
16 P . . . . . G . . . . . S . . . . . .
17 . . G . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . .
18 . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . . . . .
19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Z

     Name                      Allies
----------------------------------------
  J  Joel                      C
  P  PurpleBob                 C,K,D
  C  Poulenc                   P,K,D,M,J
  S  Jeff Schroeder            B,G,Z
  K  The Kid                   C,P,D,W,M,B
  G  Joerg                     B,S
  Z  Zagarna                   S
  B  Benjamin                  S,G,K
  D  Dave                      K,C,P
  M  M'cachessilnath           C,K
  W  Blast Lex Monk Pal        K

-- 
Rob Speer

Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:53:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan <[email-masked]>
To: "'nomic-business'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Go move
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I take my free stone and play it at R6
Poulenc
> 
>    a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s
>  1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>  2 . . . . J . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>  3 . . . . . . . J . J J C C . . . . . .
>  4 . . . J . . . . . . . . . . C . . . .
>  5 . J . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . .
>  6 . . . . . . M . . . . . . . . C . C .  
>  7 . . J . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  
>  8 . . . D . . . . K . K . . . . C . . .  
>  9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . .
> 10 . D . . D . . . K . K . B . B . . . .
> 11 . . D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> 12 . . . . . . . P . . . . . . B . . . .
> 13 . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . .
> 14 . . . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . S .
> 15 . P . . P . . . . . S . . . . S . . .
> 16 P . . . . . G . . . . . S . . . . . .
> 17 . . G . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . .
> 18 . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . . . . .
> 19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Z
> 
>      Name                      Allies
> ----------------------------------------
>   J  Joel                      C
>   P  PurpleBob                 C,K,D
>   C  Poulenc                   P,K,D,M,J
>   S  Jeff Schroeder            B,G,Z
>   K  The Kid                   C,P,D,W,M,B
>   G  Joerg                     B,S
>   Z  Zagarna                   S
>   B  Benjamin                  S,G,K
>   D  Dave                      K,C,P
>   M  M'cachessilnath           C,K
>   W  Blast Lex Monk Pal        K
> 
> -- 
> Rob Speer
> 
> 

From: =?US-ASCII?Q?Jorg_Rathlev?= <[email-masked]>
To: "A Nomic Business" <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Go move, voting results?
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:54:17 +0200
Importance: Normal
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I take my free stone and place it at i14.

Joel, when will last nweek's voting results be published?

Joerg

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12 . . . . . . . P . . . . . . B . . . .
13 . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . .
14 . . . . . . P . G . . . . . . . . S .
15 . P . . P . . . . . S . . . . S . . .
16 P . . . . . G . . . . . S . . . . . .
17 . . G . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . .
18 . . . . . G . . . . . . S . . . . . .
19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Z

     Name                      Allies
----------------------------------------
  J  Joel                      C
  P  PurpleBob                 C,K,D
  C  Poulenc                   P,K,D,M,J
  S  Jeff Schroeder            B,G,Z
  K  The Kid                   C,P,D,W,M,B
  G  Joerg                     B,S
  Z  Zagarna                   S
  B  Benjamin                  S,G,K
  D  Dave                      K,C,P
  M  M'cachessilnath           C,K
  W  Blast Lex Monk Pal        K

Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:51:48 -0400
From: Rob Speer <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: spoon-business: Make things interesting...
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

A one-candidate election wouldn't be any fun. I nominate myself for Banker.
-- 
Rob Speer

Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 01:49:34 +0000 (GMT)
From: "David E. Smith" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Since I'm browsing rules anyway...
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I make a Motion to Trivially Amend Rule 306/2 to change the spelling of
its third word from "Administraor" to "Administrator".

...dave

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To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Low Cost High Quality Track Lighting
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 00:47:46
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 05:38:09 +0000 (GMT)
From: "David E. Smith" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Another silly motion (trivial amendment of 315/2)
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I move to amend trivially Rule 315/2 to change the spelling of that rule's
title to "Motions of no confidence".

...dave

From: "David Chudzicki" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: spoon-business: motion to add a player
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 22:34:45 -0000
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

As per rule 210/3, I hereby move that I be added as a player.  I shall be 
known as David Chudzicki (or any form of "David Chudzicki" that is easily 
identifiable as referring to me, as per rule 204/2).  (I assume that my 
capability of passing the Turing Test need not be demonstrated.)  This is a 
Secondary Approvable Motion, subject to two-day unanimous conse(210/3).  I 
do not believe that the voting period taking place at present prevents me 
from making this motion, but if I am incorrect please correct.

David Chudzicki
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:42:25 -0400
From: Rob Speer <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: spoon-business: How to resolve the record-keeping problem
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Perhaps I could be of assistance.

I think that the easiest way for us to catch up with the records would be for
me to just go ahead and win now. Then all the scores just get reset to zero.

Here's how I plan to do this. All along, the Pooker proposal has been my tool
for winning the game. As the Dealer, I own all the cards in the Deck, but have
no Hand. However, the rules for Pooker never refer to a player's Hand, but only
the Cards e owns, specifically those in the Red and Blue decks which are known
as PCards.

I was waiting to refine the Showdown proposal so winning would be as painless
as possible, but I see now that there's no hope of getting a proposal passed
until the next quorum vote, which may be a long way off at this rate.

So here's what I'm doing.

Owning more than ten cards (I in fact own 84), I declare a Showdown.

I show the following Pooker Hands:

Red Ace of Diamonds, Red Ace of Clubs, Red Ace of Spades, Red Ace of Hearts,
Blue Ace of Hearts;

Red King of Diamonds, Red King of Clubs, Red King of Spades, Red King of
Hearts, Blue King of Hearts;

Red Queen of Diamonds, Red Queen of Clubs, Red Queen of Spades, Red Queen of
Hearts, Blue Queen of Hearts;

Red Jack of Diamonds, Red Jack of Clubs, Red Jack of Spades, Red Jack of
Hearts, Blue Jack of Hearts;

Blue 10 of Diamonds, Red 10 of Clubs, Red 10 of Spades, Red 10 of Hearts, Blue
10 of Hearts;

Red 9 of Diamonds, Red 9 of Clubs, Red 9 of Spades, Red 9 of Hearts, Blue 9 of
Hearts;

and
Red 8 of Diamonds, Red 8 of Clubs, Red 8 of Spades, Red 8 of Hearts, Blue 8 of
Hearts.

These seven 5-of-a-kinds are worth 80 points each, or 560 points.

It is entirely impossible for any combination of Pooker Hands in the cards
owned by other players to beat 560 points, so I win the Showdown. The
corresponding 560-point prize is paid to me directly from the Bank without
involving the debt system, according to the rule entitled "Pooker: the
Showdown". Because of the delay of the game, this rule was not numbered
and is still sitting in Live Proposals, but it passed during the quorum vote.
Its rule number would most likely be R395/0.

The bank had at least 100 points before Aranor joined, and as a result of him
joining it gained 500 more points via the "Money for Nothing" rule. The bank
thus has at least 600 points, 560 of which it now transfers to me.

Additionally, I own the following 20 rules:
(Rule numbers in parentheses have been assigned ad hoc by me, based on the
nweek 20 voting results)
1.  R210/3, "Motion to Add Players" from P396/1, "Expediency of Player Creation"
2.  R348/0, "Player Self-Creation" from P396/1, "Expediency of Player Creation"
3.  R357/0, "Randal Judgements" from P415/0
4.  R378/0, "Money for Nothing" from P433/0
5.  R382/0, "Prevention of Voting Manipulation" from P441/0
6.  R384/0, "Cards: Properties" from P449/0, "cards"
7.  R385/0, "Cards: The Packs" from P449/0, "cards"
8.  R386/0, "Cards: The Dealer" from P449/0, "cards"
9.  R387/0, "Cards: Dealing" from P449/0, "cards"
10. R388/0, "Cards: Hands" from P449/0, "cards"
11. R389/0, "Cards: The Deck" from P449/0, "cards"
12. R390/0, "Cards: Dealer's Report" from P449/0, "cards"
13. R391/0, "Cards for Votes" from P449/0, "cards"
14. (R393/0), "Pooker: Definitions" from P456/1, "Pooker"
15. (R394/0), "Pooker: Trading" from P456/1, "Pooker"
16. (R395/0), "Pooker: the Showdown" from P456/1, "Pooker"
17. (R396/0), "Pooker: Scoring" from P456/1, "Pooker"
18. (R398/0), "Separation of Card Packs" from P459/0
19. R343/2, "C/RG: Mediocrity" from P463/0, "Mediocrity fix fix"
20. (R399/0), "Thug Time Limit" from P464/0

Thus: I have 560 Points (unless someone decides to top my Pooker score, which
is entirely impossible), and 20 Rules, and by Rule 211/2 I win the game.

-- 
Rob Speer

Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 06:18:01 +0000 (GMT)
From: "David E. Smith" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Fixing the infinite loop and other win-related stuff.
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

\begin{proposal}

1. Create a new Rule entitled "Winning: One At A Time, Please" with the
following text:

A Player may not be credited with a Win unless that Player is not the last
player to be credited with a Win. This rule supercedes all other rules
dictating when a Player may be credited with a Win.

[[ i.e. you can't win twice in a row. ]]

2. Create a new Rule entitled "Winning Rules!" with the following text:

Upon being credited with a Win, a Player loses ownership of all Rules.
These rules cease to have an Owner, though they may acquire new ownership
in any other way permitted by the Rules.

3. Replace the text of Rule 122 with the following text:

In the event of a Win being awarded, the Administrator shall reset all
Scores to their initial value. If possible, play continues normally;
otherwise, the Rules shall be reset to the state of the Initial Rules
adopted at the beginning of play.

[[ i.e. the Initial Rules adopted 02 Oct 2000 ]]

\end{proposal}

...dave

Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:58:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan <[email-masked]>
To: "'nomic-business'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Objection
Sender: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I object to the addition of David's motion to add a player, on the grounds
that e has not demonstrated eir ability to pass the Turing Test.

ack.  I go away for a couple of weeks and all hell breaks loose.  Now I'm
crabby.  Also I want to keep the bank from having all those points until
we cut PurpleBob's win cycle.

Oh, and congrats to winner Purplebob.

Poulenc

Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:46:52 -0400
From: Rob Speer <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: spoon-business: RFJ on Points and Debts
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I hereby make a Request for Judgement.
[[ Joel, of course, shouldn't assign this RFJ until after the list goes back
up. ]]

Statement:
No point objects and no debt objects currently exist.

Analysis:
Rule 347/0 refers to Debts as having "point-values". This indicates that a Debt
object is composed of Point objects, albeit negative ones.

Rule 121/4 states that "An agent's score is a representation of the number of
point objects owned by em."

Thus, an agent's Score includes any Debt objects that e owns.

Rule 122/0 states that "In the event of a Win being awarded, the Administrator
shall reset all Scores to their initial value."

The initial values of Scores for this Nomic were that no Point objects or Debt
objects existed. Thus, Joel should reset the game to that state, and every
agent should have 0 Points and no Debts.
-- 
Rob Speer

Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 04:57:42 +0000 (GMT)
From: "David E. Smith" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: spoon-discuss: Re: spoon-business: Objection
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On Thu, 10 May 2001, David Chudzicki wrote:

> Therefore I suppose I must wait for my motion to be put on the next
> nweeks ballot (at which point I would assume it passes).

Not at all. It's just two-day unanimous consent. As soon as it's been 48
hours since your initial request, assuming nobody objects, you're in.

Well, actually, it'll be a bit longer, as the Administrator has not yet
officially recognized your request. That can be taken care of, though.

[ begin business stuff ]

Under Rule 306/2, I declare myself to be the Deputy of the Administrator
for the purpose of recognizing David Chudzicki's motion to join A Nomic.

[ end business stuff ]

...dave

From: "Harrison, Andrew" <[email-masked]>
To: 'Nomic Business' <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: RFJ's
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:39:01 +0100
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I've lost track of when Joel is moving, is his computer down yet? I'm
getting a Host Not Found when I access his site. Can someone mail me the
current state of the Rules regarding Cards and Pooker?

In the mean time I make the following RFJs:

As the Rules cannot be scrutinised to determine the legality of PurpleBob's
win by Pooker the win should be postponed until such a time that the Rules
can be scrutinised, and the deadline on making RFJ's should be similarly
extended.

Also:

For the Dealer to use cards from the Deck to participate in a gard of Pooker
or any other Card game is clearly against the spirit of the rules and
against the spirit of the game and thus is illeagal.

--
The Kid

Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:09:26 +0000 (GMT)
From: "David E. Smith" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: Deputy Admin Action...
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As 24 hours have passed since my Deputy Administrator declaration, and (to
the best of my knowledge) there have been no objections to such, I
recognize David Chudzicki's motion to join A Nomic.

...dave

Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 10:45:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan <[email-masked]>
To: "'nomic-business'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: spoon-business: Deputy Admin Action...
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I object.  See my earlier post for reasoning.
poulenc

On Tue, 22 May 2001, David E. Smith wrote:

> As 24 hours have passed since my Deputy Administrator declaration, and (to
> the best of my knowledge) there have been no objections to such, I
> recognize David Chudzicki's motion to join A Nomic.
> 
> ...dave
> 
> 

Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:35:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Benjamin Bradley <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: spoon-business: similarity challenge result
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heh -- sorry this is so late. I guess I just forgot about it.
Anyway, in the last similarity challenge -
cave painting
storytelling
(magnetic) tape

I received two answers - from Joel and Chess.
Both contained the necessary answer (long-term storage media), so since
Joel's came in first, he gets the win, and becomes the new Similarity
Challenge Contestmaster.
I think the points are supposed to work like this:
Joel and Chess each xfer 2 pts to me, and then I xfer 2 pts back to joel.
In effect, Chess xfers 2 pts to me and joel keeps his.

Thus spake Benjamin.

- Benjamin Bradley - "these strange things happen all the time"
- http://lostpoet.tripod.com/
- whee life what a rush