ackanomic Digest Friday, January 29 1999 Volume 04 : Issue 028 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Acka: Ice Digging Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:32:32 -0500 (EST) Now that Otzma Cards are redefined as a suite and should work again :) I play the Otzma Card Arctic Explorer in my possession and name Chaos. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Acka: Agenda Hat call Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:33:25 -0500 (EST) Sorry that this is a bit late, but better late than never. I am hereby announcing a call for Agenda Hats for cycle 34. Please reply with conditions. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Acka: Arctic Explorer Determination (fwd) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:43:03 -0500 (EST) I forgot to #P the list when I sent this in (sorry, it's late and I'm tired) --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:42:04 -0800 From: Dice server To: JT Subject: Acka: Arctic Explorer Determination -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dice rolls requested by: JT Rolls also sent to: # Player: JT # JT played an Arctic Explorer Card on Chaos. # The following is the table for the item recieved # 1-1 - Otzma Card Go Fish # 2-1 - Dorum # 3-4 - Prosthetic Forehead # 5-5 - the /dev/joe's Legacy # 6-6 - the A$50 # 7-7 - the Normal Matter # 8-8 - the cheap plastic imitation of the Amulet of Yendor No. of sides on every die: 8 No. of dice for every roll: 1 No. of dice rolls requested: 1 No. of rolls per line: 1 5 Information on the dice server: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE! 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For instructions on using the dice server, send a message with subject "help" to dice@pbm.com, or see http://www.pbm.com/dice/ The dice server is provided by: Shadow Island Games http://www.pbm.com/ ================================================= ** NewHoo Web Directory ** An army of editors surfing the web for you! http://www.NewHoo.com/ ================================================= Original message follows: > From jtraub@dragoncat.net Fri Jan 29 01:41:31 1999 > Received: (from smtp@localhost) by xkey.com > id BAA07026 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:41:31 -0500 > Received: from herne.dragoncat.net(216.122.4.136) by xkey.com via smtp (V1.3) > id sma007024; Thu Jan 28 22:41:25 1999 > Received: from localhost (jtraub@localhost) > by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA13911 > for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:41:46 -0800 > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:41:46 -0800 (PST) > From: JT > To: Dice Server > Subject: Acka: Ice Digging > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > #S 8 > #D 1 > #R 1 > #L 1 > #T Acka: Arctic Explorer Determination > > #C Player: JT > #C JT played an Arctic Explorer Card on Chaos. > #C > #C The following is the table for the item recieved > #C 1-1 - Otzma Card Go Fish > #C 2-1 - Dorum > #C 3-4 - Prosthetic Forehead > #C 5-5 - the /dev/joe's Legacy > #C 6-6 - the A$50 > #C 7-7 - the Normal Matter > #C 8-8 - the cheap plastic imitation of the Amulet of Yendor > > [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] > [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] > [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] > [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.7 iQCVAwUBNrFYPD8NitsTFjcVAQFK2QQAr4MmtNp5y9YtB6s6l92EhW9FA2ljzq7+ tXxGEllOt+1aniTaL5PNdoImM/zBgJSA+EYyzh2KSpy+FwDu2r21VoIHnmEG7wrw G8gBS2MAR7SXAkdX/R9nC0HijSZHtabfXma1BYlhRLMYXJeidmnvoi9b5H/QhAs3 IngxNfrIW84= =hdKI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: Arctic Explorer Determination (fwd) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:52:13 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, JT wrote: > 5 [snip] >> #C 5-5 - the /dev/joe's Legacy [snip] With apologies to the arts and antiquities commision, and to /dev/joe, I Dissolve /dev/joe's legacy into 250 A$. I also Dissolve Hubertzzzz into 30 A$. With the A$ 2235 the Financier's page lists me as having, this gives me A$ 2515. I spend A$2500 to increase my voting characteristic by 1 bringing me to 3. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Acka: Retraction Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 04:06:59 -0500 (EST) #retract 4049 #end I retract P4049 as the major fix that I had put in there has been resolved. [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger) Subject: Acka: More Votes Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:42:49 -0500 (EST) I spend A$ 2500 to increase my voting characteristic by 1. ThinMan ------------------------------ From: Matt Miller Subject: Acka: Scooter Pie. (Financier) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:07:24 -0500 (EST) Well, reviewing the PE page, I see that I, too, am in a position to take spend some money to gain an advantage. I purchase an additional head at the cost of A$50. IB 7 heads are better than one ------------------------------ From: Matt Miller Subject: Acka: Oh, the times.. Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:11:04 -0500 (EST) I leave all organizations of which I am currently a Member. The PE page lists these as: The Coalition for Change AVPP Church of the Good Ballot Stuffer IB Groucho Marxist ------------------------------ From: "Gavin M. Doig" Subject: acka: snowgod's (IdiotBoy) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:01:54 -0500 (EST) Yes, why just yesterday e posted a letter to eir aunt!: 4 No, e, uh, meant to do that.: 1 IdiotBoy is as infected as a very infected thing indeed. I prescribe that he attempt to reinstate anti-voting, which should be a suitable cure. Blest Lax Monk Pal. ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 4028 accepted Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:16:27 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 ackabot@ackanomic.org wrote: > {{All Trinkets of value less than A$5 are Dissolved.}} > I create the trinket named "Acme Combo Shovel and Ice Pick" worth A$5 with the description of "This wonderful tool, a handy dandy combination of Ice Pick and Shovel is a boon for Artic Explorers and Grave Robers of all ages. It looks just like it's predecessor, but costs more." --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: Matt Miller Subject: Acka: Heads, Glorious Heads! (Financier, DM) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:04:35 -0500 (EST) I lower my voting characteristic by one. THis results in a VC of 1 and an additional A$2000 in my possesion. I buy 40 extra heads at a cost of A$2000. IB winning the heads race ------------------------------ From: K 2 Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 4052 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:24:14 -0500 (EST) I retract this proposal - just a few seconds too late :/ K 2 JT wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 ackabot@ackanomic.org wrote: > >Proposal 4052 > >Generic Proposal Title #4052 > >K 2 > >Due: Fri Feb 5 13:10:15 1999 > > > >This is a grandiose proposal. > >{{Immediately upon distribution this proposal shall be retracted and its > >author shall spend one day in gaol.}} > > Amusingly enough, this will be null because it's a retroactive effect :) > > --JT > > [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] > [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] > [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] > [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: Eric Plumb Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 4028 accepted Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:04:22 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 ackabot@ackanomic.org wrote: > Proposal 4028 > Cheap Trinkanery > Slakko > Due: Fri Jan 29 06:50:50 1999 > Status: accepted > > {{All Trinkets of value less than A$5 are Dissolved.}} I create a trinket known as "Sluggo's Razor Boomerang" with a value of A$5 and the description "A shiny hadrathium razor boomerang inscribed with the legend "One 'Rang to rule them all, one 'Rang to bind them." It is better than Bill's Razor Boomerang, which doesn't exist anymore so obviously can't be as good." I brandish Sluggo's Razor Boomerang threateningly in the direction of JT, Laa laa, and 404 Not Found. Yes, in three directions at once. Such is the power of the Razor Boomerang. Quail. -Hubert Some people say they can tell the time by looking at the sun, but I have never been able to make out the numbers. ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 4051 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:22:28 -0500 (EST) #retract 4051 #end On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Duncan Richer wrote: >> The rules enforce it as part of the judges verdict or else the judge is >> breaking the rules of the game. >> >> That seems pretty clear to me. > >Yes, but the rules say that the penalty MUST be included. >If the judge does not include it, does that > >(a) mean the Judgement did not happen >(b) make the Judge's specified penalty the actual one, but make the Judge >a criminal, or >(c) force the minimum penalty to happen as well as whatever the Judge >said. I see your point and retract 4051 to rewrite it to clarify this issue. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: Matt Miller Subject: Acka: Limited time engagement. Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:41:57 -0500 (EST) FREAK SHOW! This Sunday Night at 23:00 Acka, the Acka-famous ``Hydra Boy'' will be appearing at the Ackanomic Printing Guild, just east of Ackanomic University. Come marvel as IdiotBoy's 47 heads discuss such timely issues as Voting Characteristics and the letter X. Witness the wonder of the Mike Tyson head.. located just to the left of the Van Gogh head. Get your tickets early. You won't want to miss any of the action! That's this Saturday night, 23:00, the Ackanomic Printing Guild. From Vulcan Headquarters, go west 1 block past the Town Hall, then north to the Ackanomic Printing Guild. Tickets are A$20 in advance, A$25 day of the show. IB impresario poseur ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: Limited time engagement. Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:47:26 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Matt Miller wrote: >Tickets are A$20 in advance, A$25 day of the show. If I have A$20 (I believe I do because of the trinket dissolution earlier today via prop), I give IdiotBoy A$20 for a ticket to the show. --JT, one freak among many [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: Matt Miller Subject: Re: Acka: Limited time engagement. Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:55:00 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, JT wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Matt Miller wrote: > >Tickets are A$20 in advance, A$25 day of the show. > > If I have A$20 (I believe I do because of the trinket dissolution earlier > today via prop), I give IdiotBoy A$20 for a ticket to the show. > I create a Trinket valued at A$20 called "A Ticket to the Big Dance" with the description, "Expected to be spindled upon presentation." I give this Trinket to Jt. IB ------------------------------ From: "Gavin M. Doig" Subject: acka: Stuff Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:02:52 -0500 (EST) I lower my proposal characteristic by one, in return for 800A$. I lower my proposal characteristic by one, in return for 800A$. I lower my proposal characteristic by one, in return for 800A$. I raise my voting characteristic by one, paying 2500A$ to do so. BLMP. ------------------------------ From: "Gavin M. Doig" Subject: Re: Acka: Limited time engagement. Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:09:54 -0500 (EST) I go to the library, adjacent to the Ackanomic Printing Guild. I start selling sausages in buns. Only 5A$ each! BLMP. ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: Limited time engagement. Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:12:54 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Gavin M. Doig wrote: >I go to the library, adjacent to the Ackanomic Printing Guild. I go to the Ackanomic Printing Guild, and wait in line for what I'm sure will be a sell-out show. >I start selling sausages in buns. Only 5A$ each! I bring my own food as concert food is too expensive :) --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: "Gavin M. Doig" Subject: Re: Acka: Limited time engagement. Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:15:56 -0500 (EST) >>I start selling sausages in buns. Only 5A$ each! > >I bring my own food as concert food is too expensive :) > They would have been cheaper, but K 2, /dev/joe, else...if, Robin Hood, ThinMan and JT decided otherwise. ;-) BLMP. ------------------------------ From: Mueller Subject: Acka: order out of chaos Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:21:58 -0500 (EST) Just wondering what will happen.... I destroy all non-entities. Note: ------------------------------ The following may be found at http://www.sonic.net/~mueller4/tom/nomic/acka/non-rules.html which is referenced off of http://www.sonic.net/~mueller4/tom/nomic/acka/ ------------------------------ Then, I created the following _Initial non-rules of Ackanomic_ non-rule 105 Obey The non-rules There are things in Ackanomic which are not part of the game state, all of these are part of the non-game state which includes all non-entities. With regards to the non-game state, all players must always abide by all the non-rules then in effect, in the form in which they are then in effect, and interpreted in accordance with currently existing game custom. No non-rule may force any part of the game state to change. Any indication of this in any non-rule is merely a suggestion without the force of authority. non-rule 110 non-proposals A non-proposal is created when it is publicly posted. Non-proposals must contain only instructions specifying changes to the non-rules. 72 hours after a non-proposal has been created, the changes to the rules it describes occur unless it has been Vetoed by some player. non-rule 115 Impermissibility Of The Unprohibited Whatever is not allowed or regulated by a non-rule is not permitted with respect to the non-game state. non-rule 120 Resolving Conflicts If two or more non-rules conflict with one another, then the non-rule with the lowest effective ordinal number takes precedence. If at least one of the non-rules in conflict explicitly says of itself that it defers to another non-rule (or type of non-rule) or takes precedence over another non-rule (or type of non-rule), then such provisions shall supercede the numerical method for determining precedence. If two or more non-rules claim to take precedence over one another, or to defer to one another, then the numerical method must again govern. non-rule 125 Invoking non-Judgement Any player who believes has a question or complaint about any matter concerning the non-game state post a call for non-Judgement (or CFnJ) in the form of a statement. non-rule 130 Selecting A non-Judge When non-Judgement has been called for, a non-Judge is randomly selected from among the other registered players by the non-Speaker. The player selected has 3 days in which to accept or refuse the appointment by publicly indication. Any player who does not respond to selection in 3 days is deemed to have refused appointment. If a selected player refuses appointment, then a further random selection is made from the remaining pool. non-rule 135 Delivering non-Judgement Having accepted the appointment, a non-Judge has exactly one week in which to post an official non-Judgement. A non-Judge who fails to deliver non-Judgement within that period officially "sucks" and a new judge shall be selected. non-rule 140 Three Possible non-Judgements There are only three possible non-Judgements: (1) True; (2) False; or (3) Undecided. A non-Judgement may be accompanied by reasons an arguments, but any such reasons and arguments form no part of the official non-Judgement itself. non-rule 145 non-Judgements Must Accord With The non-rules All non-Judgements must be in accordance with all the non-rules then in effect. When the non-rules are silent, inconsistent, or unclear on the statement in question, however, then the non-Judge shall consider currently existing game non-custom and the spirit of the non-game state in reaching a decision. non-rule 150 non-Judgements Are Not non-rules If a statement on which non-Judgement has been called is non-Judged to be true, and that non-Judgement is not overruled, it does not thereby become a non-rule, or any part of a non-rule. It merely becomes an explicit part of currently accepted game non-custom. non-rule 155 Overturning non-Judgements At any time in the 72 hours following the posting of a non-Judgement of "True" or "False", any player may request that the non-Judgement be overruled, i.e. changed to "undecided". If no player Vetoes the request then the non-Judgement is overruled, and the non-Judge who made it is officailly "very lame". non-rule 155 The non-Speaker The holder of the non-office of non-Speaker is obliged to publicly maintain a copy of all CFnJs and a copy of the rules as they currently stand. The non-Speaker may be required to do other things as well by other rules. The first non-Speaker is the Ackanomic player named Studge. This paragraph deletes itself upon taking effect. Studge ------------------------------ From: Towsner Subject: Acka:Raw cash Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:31:56 -0500 (EST) I give JT A$375 -- -Henry Towsner Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and enjoy it. -Logan Pearsall Smith ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Re: Acka:Raw cash Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:43:25 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Towsner wrote: >I give JT A$375 I thank else...if. Since Studge did succeed (I believe, or at least a CFJ verdict believes) in destroying all non-entities and thus all parties, all Party Swingerships became Provisional Swingerships. I pay A$375 (15 * the SHF) and convert the Razor Boomerang Party Swingership into a Free Swingership. I don't bother to change the name of the Swingership at this point. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: order out of chaos Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:50:14 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Mueller wrote: > non-rule 105 > Obey The non-rules > >There are things in Ackanomic which are not part of the game state, all of >these are part of the non-game state which includes all non-entities. > >With regards to the non-game state, all players must always abide by all >the non-rules then in effect, in the form in which they are then in effect, >and interpreted in accordance with currently existing game custom. > >No non-rule may force any part of the game state to change. Any indication >of this in any non-rule is merely a suggestion without the force of authority. These two paragraphs conflict and therefore by their own authority, these rules have no effect. The second paragraph attempts to change the game state by affecting what players in Ackanomic can and cannot do with regards to non-entities. Since players are entities of Ackanomic, this (according to the third paragraph) is merely a suggestion and has no authority. I therefore destroy, fold, spindle and mutilate all non-rules and non-proposals, and in fact even the very non-game state they attempted to regulate. [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: Matt Miller Subject: Re: Acka: Limited time engagement. (Financier, DM) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:05:57 -0500 (EST) I lower my Proposal Characteristic by one. This nets me A$800. On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Gavin M. Doig wrote: > I go to the library, adjacent to the Ackanomic Printing Guild. > > I start selling sausages in buns. Only 5A$ each! > I carefully cover all but my registration-given head. I step outside my home and purchase 47 sausages in a bun. (Being an upstanding citizen, I, of course, pay BLMP A$235 for them.) I also casually start a rumor about a door prize among those already gathered at the APG. I then slip back inside my home. IB ------------------------------ From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger) Subject: Acka: Conversion Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:06:35 -0500 (EST) I pay A$375 to convert the provisional swingership in my possession to a Free swingership. I observe that if this works this time then it didn't work the last time. I change my name to Vulcan. Vulcan (nee ThinMan) ------------------------------ From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger) Subject: Acka: Ticket Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:09:05 -0500 (EST) I pay IdiotBoy A$20 for a ticket to the show. I head on over to the Ackanomic Printing Guild to beat the rush. ThinMan ------------------------------ From: Matt Miller Subject: Acka: ThinMan Snaps Up Ticket #2! Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:58:26 -0500 (EST) I create a trinket called "Ticket to Marakesh" valued at A$20 described as:"Pre-mangled, for your pleasure." I give the "Ticket to Marakesh" to ThinMan. IB making it up in volume ------------------------------ End of ackanomic Digest V4 #28 ******************************