ackanomic Digest Saturday, December 05 1998 Volume 03 : Issue 435 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Acka: Org Harfer Nomination ended Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 02:49:59 -0500 (EST) The period for nomination for Org Harfer ended at Fri 04 Dec 1998 03:19:16 -0500 Acka time. The following players nominated for the position Trent K 2 R-Attila Wild Card I am hereby appointing K 2 to the position of Org Harfer since e has to already track a large portion of the org information as Financier. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Acka: Newbies ending newbiehood Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 03:02:47 -0500 (EST) On December 3 (yeah, it's 2 days ago, well a day and some change) Euphrates, Danek and Scout ceased to be newbies. At that time they were assigned to a caste. Danek was assigned to Warrior. Scout was assigned to Worker. Euphrates was assigned to Worker. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: K 2 Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3822 accepted Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 06:16:12 -0500 (EST) A cause at last :) I too go ON Time to get anti-voting back :) K 2 JT wrote: > >With the passage of this proposal, We are now in a Puppet Dictatorship and > >MTM is the Emperor of Ackanomic. > > In response to this, I set my rebelliousness characteristic to 'on'. > > --JT > > [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] > [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] > [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] > [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: "Gavin M. Doig" Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3822 accepted Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 10:45:46 -0500 (EST) >In response to this, I set my rebelliousness characteristic to 'on'. > I set my rebelliousness characteristic to 'on'. smallpox insurgent. ------------------------------ From: Duncan Richer Subject: Acka: Enthrallments Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 12:10:58 -0500 (EST) P3803: Danek enthralled by JT P3805: Slakko enthralled by Trent P3811: Trent enthralled by JT -- Duncan C. Richer aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother | Queens' College http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/ Ackanomic | U. of Cambridge Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator | 2nd Year PhD(PMa) ------------------------------ From: Gabe Drummond-Cole Subject: Acka: remembrance hearing Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 13:53:53 -0500 (EST) I am calling a Remembrance Hearing on Rule 1217 (Grab-A-Donkey) I am Hearing Harfer. The valid responses to this hearing are "It's not bad, but it's not good. It must be ugly" and "YES!". If the result is the former i pay the SHF to the Treasury. If the result is the latter the rule becomes an Excellent rule. -- Trent Crazy French-Scotsman, Daring Adventurer, Dungeon Master, Really Weird, Rules-Harfer, Worker Caste, Weird ------------------------------ From: Gabe Drummond-Cole Subject: Re: Acka: remembrance hearing - ACK!!! Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 13:56:13 -0500 (EST) At 01:53 PM 12/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >I am calling a Remembrance Hearing on Rule 1217 (Grab-A-Donkey) > >I am Hearing Harfer. > >The valid responses to this hearing are "It's not bad, but it's not good. >It must be ugly" and "YES!". > >If the result is the former i pay the SHF to the Treasury. If the result is >the latter the rule becomes an Excellent rule. Reply to THIS message to vote. the other wasnt sent to ackanomic-priv -- Trent Crazy French-Scotsman, Daring Adventurer, Dungeon Master, Really Weird, Rules-Harfer, Worker Caste, Weird ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Acka: Chess Umpire (Jenny) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 14:34:54 -0500 (EST) The following players nominated for Chess Umpire. Trent Jenny In the interest of spreading around the work a bit, and in giving Chess Umpire to someone who's been involved with the Party Chess game, I appoint Jenny to the office of Chess-Umpire. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: Gabe Drummond-Cole Subject: Acka: election Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 14:45:00 -0500 (EST) I call for an election for deejay, and stuff. -- Trent Crazy French-Scotsman, Daring Adventurer, Dungeon Master, Really Weird, Rules-Harfer, Worker Caste, Weird ------------------------------ From: Duncan Richer Subject: Acka: CFCJ 174 (FALSE) (overturned) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 15:15:04 -0500 (EST) The Supreme Court has judged this FALSE. All members were in agreement. A penalty of 0 points is assigned to the members of the Cortex. Call for Criminal Judgement 174 - September 12, 1998 Subject: Malpracticing Financier Initiator: Weishaupt (sent 12 Sep 1998, 08:12 Acka) Judge: Robin Hood (selected 12 Sep 1998, 09:00 Acka) Judgement: TRUE (promulgated 18 Sep 1998, 04:15 Acka) Appellant: K 2 1st Cortex: /dev/cortex (Mr. Tambourine Man and /dev/joe) (selected 21 Sep 1998, 12:13 Acka) (too slow) 2nd Cortex: Amicus Draconis (JT and Vynd) (chosen 31 Oct 1998 06:10 Acka) Judgement: TRUE (upheld) (promulgated 6 Nov 1998 18:31 Acka) Appellant: K 2 Supreme Court: Alfvaen, /dev/joe, Gromit, JT, Slakko, Vynd (notified Nov 8 1998, 04:19 Acka) Supreme Court's Judgement: FALSE Statement: K 2 committed the Crime of Malpractice on Aug 28 Reasoning: This is only true if I have a brie. When I joined, no method of gaining Bries was defined in the rules. Assuming I do have a Brie, K 2 performed his duty as financier incorrectly. According to rule 701, The act of performing a Duty incorrectly is the Crime of Malpractice. Suggested Penalty: Transferrence of A$100 to Weishaupt for confusion, consternation, guilt, and psychological trauma Public Apology of at least 2 lines Judge's Reasoning: (none) Actual Penalty: A FINE of A$1. Appellant's Reasoning: >From rule 701: "The act of performing a Duty incorrectly is the Crime of Malpractice." >From rule 412: " The Duties of the Financier are: a) To maintain accurate records of the who owns each ownable entity, what each Player owns, and what each named non-Player entity [such as the Treasury or the Chartreuse Goose] owns. b) To log (or collate logs made by other officers) all transfers of entity ownership and the creation and destruction of entities, and to verify that these events happen only in accordance with the Rules. c) To make the records and logs available to any Player upon request. d) To maintain the Free Market (FM), and to verify any transaction made there was made in accordance with the rules. " Since no player has requested the entity transfer log according to c) no player (aside from myself) is in any position to determine if a breach of a) has occurred. Since the pe page is unregulated it is permissible for it to have any content I choose :). While it usually represents *The Truth* maybe in this case it didn't? No one asked so only I can tell. As the most damning evidence that I didn't do it I present rule 401.x : " Officers have 3 days to complete the tasks and duties they are responsible for, not counting any time the officer is vacationing or in Gaol, unless other rules unambiguously specify a different finite amount of time for these things. " On 28/08/1998 3:52:29 Weishaupt joined the game, I had three days to harf eir ownership of A$900 and a trinket (duty 402.a), thus on Aug 28 I was not committing Malpractice. If it occurred it occurred 3 days later. This CFCJ is definitely (first player to say trivially gets a sound thwaping) FALSE. Cortex's reasoning: There is a preponderance of evidence that K 2 did in fact perform his duties incorrectly, by incorrectly logging that Weishaupt had a Brie cheese. We note that K 2 did not somehow give Weishaupt a Brie incorrectly, the Financier does not have the ability to create entities except in accordance with the rules, and it was impossible for a Brie to be created at the time in question. Instead, K 2 incorrectly tracked, or in the language of the rules, logged, the existance of a Brie in Weishaupt's possession. Thus K 2 incorrectly performed duties a) and b) of the Financier office, which are (in part) to keep accurate records of what players own, and to log the creation and transfer of entities. The real question in judging this CFJ is not if the Crime was commited, but when. The appelant (K 2 again) claims that the efficiency section of Rule 400, which allows 3 days for officers to carry out their duties, means that he could not have commited malpractice in regards to Weishaupt's possession on August 28. He bases this claim on the fact that, as Weishaupt had only joined the game on the 28th, as Financier he had still had three days to accurately record Weishaupt's possessions. We disagree with K 2 on this matter. If this were a case where K 2 had not yet logged Weishaupt as possessing anything on August 28, then his argument would be valid. He would not have performed his duty yet, but he would still have several days in which to do so. This is not what occured. In this case, K 2 performed his duty, but did so incorrectly in that he stated that Weishaupt owned something that he did not. In fact, he commited Malpractice twice, once by claiming that Brie was created, and again by claiming that Weishaupt owned said Brie. The efficiency ceased to apply once K 2 performed his duty, even if it was performed incorrectly. K 2 also asserts that the contents of the "Player/Entity" page are not, in fact, a log, and need not be accurate. We disagree with this assertion as well. To our knowledge K 2 has never informed players of any means of accessing a "log" other than the website in question. He has presented the information on it as if it were a log, and in the absence of any other visible means of acquiring information on entities and ownership, it has been considered by the players of Ackanomic to be the official source of information from the Financier. We believe that each time a player accesses the "Player/Entity" webpage, this is a "request" by a player for the "records and logs" that are discussed in section c) of Rule 412 Financier and Free Market. Thus, if the webpage is "not" an accurate log, but the Financier has, at the very least, allowed the PLayers of Ackanomic to believe that it is, then he is once again commiting Malpractice, and presumably was commiting Malpractice on August 28, as the same webpage was in use then. Thus, this court has determined that if K 2 did not have an accurate log of Weishaupt's possessions on August 28 available on the "Player/Entity" webpage, he commited the Crime alleged in this CFCJ. After investigation, some of which is quoted at the end of this message, we have determined that the crime was in fact commited on August 28. Hence we uphold the original judgment of TRUE. With all that said and done, we consider this CFCJ to be in poor taste. The officers, particularly the Financier, have difficult jobs to do, and will inevitably make mistakes. When they are noticed, it has long been game custom to point them out and allow them to be corrected without punishment, unless of course the the officer disagrees that an error has been made at all. This game custom does not, of course, prevent CFCJs from being filed, but we feel that it is important to note that they were not intended for this purpose. Malpractice is a crime that should only be prosecuted when it has truly damaging effects on the game or a player, neither of which was true in this case. Having stated this for the record, we choose to keep the original penalty of a FINE of A$1. Let the appealer of this CFCJ be penalized with a 0 point deduction. Appellant's Reasoning (2): After giving the matter some consideration, I searched the mail logs to see if there was any publicly knowable evidence that I did not harf Weishaupt's entry into Acka on the 28th. The logs confirm that I posted messages on the 26th of August (~13:06) and then again on the 29th of August (~13:32). It seems reasonable to assume that I downloaded my mail at these times as well. Furthermore the messages posted on 29th of August: i) Sat, 29 Aug. 1998 16:48:03 (v03.n290), in reply to an action on 28 Aug. 1998 14:22:40 (v03.n288). ii) Sat, 29 Aug. 1998 13:33:22 (v03.n204), publicly delivering a verdict to CFJ 648 distributed on 27 Aug. 1998 15:13:18 (v03.n287) and retracted on 28 Aug. 1998 03:59:40 (v03.n288), followed by my oops statement on 29 Aug. 1998 16:47:57 (v03.n204). would indicate the case of i) that I had only recently read the message from 28 Aug. 1998 14:22:40 and in the case of ii) that I had not read the retraction message from 28 Aug. 1998 03:59:40, at the time I posted my replies (i.e. 29 Aug. 1998 ~13:00). While it is possible I downloaded my mail between 26th and 28th of August without sending mail, it is highly unlikely I silently downloaded after 3:52:29 (when Weis joined) but before 3:59:40 (the time of the CFJ retraction I didn't know about) on the 28th of August. Thus it is impossible (or nearly so) for me to have harfed Weishaupt's possessions on the 28th of August simply because I had not downloaded/read my mail at that time. Supreme Court's Reasoning: (provided by /dev/joe): The submitter of this CFCJ has not provided evidence that the crime was actually committed on the day in question, and the accused has testified that it did not happen until a later day. Thus we judge this CFCJ FALSE, with no penalty to the earlier judges. ------------------------------ From: K 2 Subject: [Fwd: Acka: Waaaaay too ambiguous.] Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 21:21:32 -0500 (EST) -- Listar MIME Decryption -------------- -- Content: Included message Message-ID: <52A0EE58.4A11BAE7@connexus.net.au> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:21:28 +1100 From: K 2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ackanomic@ackaomic.org Subject: Acka: Waaaaay too ambiguous. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't harfed this transaction; Which proposals; since you joned the game? As per the offer from whenever? Did e vote yes on all of the proposals in the offer? Which reminds me I pay Slakko A$15 for the proposal that I bribed Wild Card on, in the hope that e will pass it on when Wild Card returns from the moon. K 2 From: Gabe Drummond-Cole Subject: Re: Acka: Stuff. Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:16:33 -0500 (EST) If i have not already given money to Wild Card for voting YES on my proposals, i give Slakko A$15 for each one WC voted yes on (remember the extra misharfed retraction) -- Pol Pot Crazy French-Scotsman, Daring Adventurer, Dungeon Master, Really Weird, Rules-Harfer, Worker Caste, Weird ------------------------------ End of ackanomic Digest V3 #435 *******************************