acka-voting Digest Wednesday, January 06 1999 Volume 04 : Issue 006 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Acka: Proposal 3999 From: jtraub@dragoncat.net Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 01:04:22 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3999 Repeal of PW Trent Due: Wed Jan 13 01:04:21 1999 {{[Paradox Wins are attainable in 3 ways: a) changing the rules is impossible b) the legality of a player action that would affect the game state cannot be determined with finality c) a player action which would affect the game state appears equally legal and illegal Now, if a) is true, we're in a world of hurt. And it's highly unlikely that we could be in that state, have it not be an obvious Hubert situation, and have CFJs be submittable b) is the weasally version I put back in. It makes paradoxes way too easy. I highly suspect that with a slightly different paradox, else...if could have won with treasure. I also think there is a similar possibility with contracts, and perhaps with trust funds. All in all, b) is much too easy, and it was right to take it out. c) is just about impossible to achieve. If a player action is indeterminate with respect to the rules, Game Custom and/or the Spirit of the Game can be used by the judge to make an "arbitrary" ruling. so...]}} remove the final paragraph of rule 3 (invoking judgement) remove " unless the CFJ was a paradox win CFJ or a cycle win CFJ in which case e loses 3 points" from rule 1-8 (retractions) remove "and Paradox Win CFJs " from rule 8 (Winning Conditions) repeal rule 8-3 (Winning by Paradox) remove the final sentence of section XI of rule 12-1 ------------------------------ Subject: Acka: Proposal 4000 From: jtraub@dragoncat.net Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 09:01:11 -0500 (EST) Proposal 4000 Livix K 2 Due: Wed Jan 13 09:01:10 1999 {{[Update all rule pointers]}} This is a Modest Proposal. I. Amend Section 5c [Permissible Stingings] in Rule 1-2-2 (Spelling Bee) by deleting the text "from R 214" and placing the final sentence in notes brackets. II. Replace the following text of Amend Rule 1-2-2-1 (Spellbooks) "as in Rule 342." with "as in this Rule's Parent." III. Replace the following text from Rule 1-2-4-1 (No E-mail, No Game) "see Rule 422." with "see the rule entitled 'Postmaster'.". IV. Replace all occurrences of "R 207" in [sections 1d, 4 and 7] of Rule 1-4 (When Score Changes Take Effect) with "Rule 2-2". V. Amend Rule 1-6-2 (Proposal and Rule Titles) in the following ways: a) Replace the text "(This paragraph takes precedence over Rule 348.)" with "(This paragraph takes precedence over its parent.)" b) Replace the text "(This paragraph takes precedence over Rule 500.1.)" with "(This paragraph takes precedence over its siblings.)" VI. Replace the text "in Rule 855 (Monolith)" in Rule 1-7-4 (Paradigm Type: Inflationary) with "in the rule titled 'Monolith'". VII. In Rule 330 (Retractions) Replace the text "as described by Rule 1250.1" with "as described in Rule 12 and its decedents" VIII. In Rule 2 (Proposals) replace the text "as described in Rules 301 and 303." with "as described in Rules 2-3 and 1-6-2." IX. replace the text "as defined by rule 106." in Rule 2-1-1 (Fair Voting Practices) with "as defined by this rule's ancestor." X. Replace the text "effect under Rule 104" from [section V (Null Proposals)] of Rule 2-2 (Scoring When A Proposal's Voting Results are Reported) with "effect according to this rule's parent". XI. Delete the text "for the purposes of Rule 207" from Rule 2-2-1 (Modesty and Pride). XII. Amend Rule 2-2-2 (Literature) in the following ways: a) Replace the text "; this takes precedence over Rule 340." with "; this takes precedence over Rule 1-2." b) Replace the text "as described in Rule 346" with "as described in Rule 1-2" XIII. Amend Rule 3 (Invoking Judgement) by replacing the text "as provided in Rule 212." with "as provided in this rule's decedents". XIV. Amend Rule 4 (Players and Player States) by : a) replacing the text "as described in rule 252." with "as described in this rule's decedents.". b) replacing the text "assigned as in Rule 212." with "assigned as in Rule 3-1.". c) replacing the text "in accordance with R 401" with "in accordance with Rule 6". XV. Delete from Rule 4-3 (No Dead Players Allowed) the phrase "as described in rule 254.". XVI. Replace the text "from Rule 1112" in Rule 4-4-3 (Characteristic: Harf) with "from Rule 2-2-6". XVII. Replace the phrase text "as described in Rule 210" in Rule 4-7 (Rainy Day Women #12 & #35) with "as described in Rule 2-2-2" XVIII. Amend Rule 6 (Offices, Commonalities) by: a) Removing the text "and R 403." from Rule 6 (Offices, Commonalities). b) Removing the text "(by the procedure in R 402)". XIX. Amend Rule 6-1 (Acting Officers) by: a) replacing the text "this one and Rule 401." with "this one and its parent.". b) removing the text ", e.g. by Rule 404.". XX. Amend Rule 6-2 (Offices, Related Definitions) by replacing the text "[qv Rule 401, section (ix)]." with "[qv section (ix) of this rules parent].". XXI. Amend Rule 6-4 (Functional Offices, Commonalties) by replacing the phrase "over rule 401." with "over its parent.". XXII. Amend Rule 6-4-1 (Speaker) by replacing the text "over all other rules." with "over its parent and all rules which are decendents of its parent." {{["over its entire family".]}} XXIII. Amend Rule 6-4-9 (Count Tabula) by replacing: a) "[see Rule 360]" with "[see Rule 5]" b) "[Rule 404]" with "[see Rule 6-3]" c) "[Rule 402]" with "[see Rule 6-2]" XXIV. Amend Rule 6-4-16 (Treasure-Harfer) by replacing the text "as in Rule 1217." with "as in Rule 12-9.". XXV. Amend Rule 6-4-19 (Dungeon Master) by : a) replacing "[See rule 1030]." with "[See rule 11-2].". b) replacing "characteristics defined in Rule 540.2 (Basic Player Characteristics)" with "Basic Player Characteristics". XXVI. Amend Rule 6-5-1 (President) by replacing "over rule 401." with " over its parent.". XXVII. Amend Rule 6-5-8 by replacing: a) "(See Rule 1160.)" with "(See this rule's decedents)" b) "as described in Rule 1160." with "as described in this rule's decedents." XXVIII. Amend Rule 7-5 *AckaDollars and Trinkets) by replacing "as described in rule 348." with "as described in rule 1-6.". XXIX. Amend Rule 7-13-3 (Souvenirs) by replacing the text "over Rule 1145" with "over Rule 4-7". XXX. Amend Rule 7-14 (Definition of Otzma Cards) by replacing "are not grouped for the purposes of R516." with "are not grouped for the Auction.". XXXI. Amend Rule 7-14-3 (Otzma Card of type Map Shard) "over Rule 1217" with over "over Rule 12-9". XXXII. Amend Rule 7-16-1 (ASS Song: Chess Piece Face) by replacing "Rule 374 (Politeness Moon)" with "Politeness Moon". XXXIII. Amend Rule 8 (Winning Conditions) by replacing: a) "Rule 601, Rule 603, Rule 620, and Rule 666" with "Rule 8-1, Rule 8-2, Rule 8-3 and Rule 8-4" b) "established by Rule 603" with "established by Rule 8-4". XXXIV. Amend Rule 8-1 (Chartreuse Goose) by replacing "under Rule 600" with "by this rule's parent". XXXV. Amend Rule 8-2 (End of Cycle) by replacing: a) "Rule 600 or 601" with "Rule 8 or 8-3". b) "[see rules 593, 611 and 670]" with "[see rules 8-2-4, 8-6 and 8-7]". XXXVI. Amend Rule 8-3 (Winning By Paradox) by replacing "over Rule 600" with "over this rule's parent". XXXVII. Amend Rule 8-4 (Winning by Points) by replacing "in Rule 600" with "in this rule's parent". XXXVIII. Amend Rule 8-6 (Winning by Agenda) by replacing "[See Rule 666]" with "[See Rule 8-2]". XXXIX. Amend Rule 9 (Crime) by replacing "in rule 101" with "in rule 1". XL. Amend Rule 9-1 (Gaol) by: a) replacing the text "over R505" with "over Rule 7-4". b) deleting "8) A player in the Gaol may remove a Puppet Head." and "5) A player in Gaol may change their player state." and renumbering the list from which they came. XLI. Amend Rule 10-1-7 (Ackanomic Institute of Genetic Replication) by replacing "[See also rule 931]" with "[See also rule 7-13]". XLII. Amend Rule 12-1 (Games & Contests) by replacing: a) [Sec III.h] "[Trophies are described in rule 1250.2.]" with "[Trophies are described in rule 12-2.]". b) [Sec V.e.i] "in Rule 1250.3, appended to Rule 1250.3." with "in Rule 12-3, appended to Rule 12-3.". c) [Sec XIV] "[in rule 1250.3]" with "[in rule 12-3]". XLIII. Amend Rule 12-3-1 (Limerick Contest) by replacing "As described in rule 1250.1" [Sec 3] with "As described in rule 12-1". XLIV. Replace the text "in rule 1250.1" were it appears [usually in the 3rd main section] of each of the following rules: Rule 12-3-3 (Fictionary), Rule 12-3-5 (Double Crash), Rule 12-3-6 (Triple Double Crash), Rule 12-3-7 (Single Capture Go), Rule 12-3-12 (Word un-association), Rule 12-4-1-1 (Game of Pure Skill), Rule 12-4-1-2 (Spades), Rule 12-3-9 (Viruses), Rule 12-3-4 (Tromino Go), Rule 12-3-10 (Mediocrity), Rule 12-3-13 (Abstract Crescent) and Rule 12-4-2-1 (Eleusis) with "in rule 12-1". XLV. Amend rule Rule 12-6 (The Machine That Goes *ping*) by replacing "(this takes precedence over Rule 374)" with "(this takes precedence over Rule 5-2)". XLVI. Amend Rule 12-7 (Grab-a-Donkey) by replacing "in Rule 1250.1" with "in Rule 12-1". XLVII. Amend Rule 12-8-2 (Swingers Like to Play Around II - Let's play) by: a) replacing "according to rule 1240.9" with "according to rule 7-14-7". b) replacing "in accordance with Rule 1240.10" with "in accordance with Rule 7-14-8". ------------------------------ Subject: Acka: Proposal 4001 From: jtraub@dragoncat.net Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:11:56 -0500 (EST) Proposal 4001 Spiro Agnew: Grow a WHAT?!? Eric. Due: Wed Jan 13 13:11:54 1999 There exists a unique tradeable entity known as the The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really. The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really shall always have dimensions slightly larger then those of the location in which it's owner is located (which causes horrific problems when transporting The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really). It is initially Baby Blue, though the shade of blue can be changed at the whim of the owner. The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really changes shape. On Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday it is round. On Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday it is shaped similarly to a 1968 Ford Mustang Fastback. No matter what shape or size The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really is, it shall always have a button somewhere upon it marked "ENERGIZE." The owner of The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really may use it to change the player name of any active player to another name which is an anagram of the original. This is a public action. In order to fully specify this action, the owner must state that he has pointed The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really at x (where x is the name of the player being renamed) and pressed the ENERGIZE button, and he must give an anagram of the original name. If this action is successful then The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really changes x's name to the specified anagram, and The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really is transferred to the possession of x. The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really runs on rechargeable 9 volt batteries, and may be used no more than once every two weeks, or the batteries will overheat and explode before The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really is able to change a players name (and thus causing The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really to be transferred to a random player for recharging). Should The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really remain unused for a period of longer than a week, it will transfer itself to the possession of the first player to point this out publically. {{ Renumber this Rule to a number of the Rule-Harfer's choosing. [ Sorry, I have no idea how the new rule numbers work. ] Change its authorship credit to "snowgod (Phil Ackley)". The Really Big Blue Thing That Doesn't Do Too Much, Really is transferred to the possession of an active player. }} ------------------------------ Subject: Acka: Proposal 3969 accepted From: jtraub@dragoncat.net Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:09:21 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3969 Yes votes: 11/12: proposal accepted Yes: Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) K 2 NY E NJ (The Razor Boomerangs) Danek smallpox blanket (Klingon) else...if Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) ThinMan (Vulcan) JT (The Razor Boomerangs) Eric. (The Razor Boomerangs) No: Calvin N Hobbes Abstain r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) 404 Not Found rufus Vynd (Vulcan) O Olde Alpha two-star Pending & did not vote: WoHo Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Euphrates Slakko (SPAM) /dev/joe (Vulcan) Wild Card Subject: Acka: Proposal 3969 Proposal 3969 lasoporp timbus K 2 Due: Wed Jan 6 13:16:34 1999 Status: accepted {{[ JT's recent cycle win, while being essentially a win by points, is not covered by rule 8-4's short cut clause. This proposal changes that. Additionally, Winning conditions established by Rule 603 and for which the scorekeeper made a declaration were not destroyed at the end of the cycle - rule 8 only destroys winning onditions attached to CFJ in the finalized state.... fortunately this situation has not arisen... yet. ]}} I. Replace the following paragraph (delimited by THISISADELIMITERNOTACLUE) in Rule 8-4 (Winning by Points): THISISADELIMITERNOTACLUE A player achieves a Winning Condition at the instant their number of points first reaches or exceeds the Magic Number in any given Cycle, provided that no one else has previously had a score reach or exceed the Magic Number during that cycle. In addition to the process outlined in Rule 600, it is also possible for a player (other than the Scorekeeper) to win the Cycle if the Scorekeeper declares em to have satisfied the above condition. If no player objects to the Scorekeeper's announcement within three days, then the above-mentioned player wins the Cycle. (Otherwise, the player may still resort to CWCFJ as outlined in Rule 600.) THISISADELIMITERNOTACLUE with the following text (delimited by TIHTIESRIASNADDAECLLIUME): TIHTIESRIASNADDAECLLIUME A player achieves a Winning Condition at the instant their number of points first reaches or exceeds the Magic Number in any given Cycle, provided that no one else has previously had a score reach or exceed the Magic Number during that cycle. If the rules specify that a player, other than the ScoreKeeper, gains a winning condition as a result of having a certain number of points, the scorekeeper may declare them to have won. If no player objects to the Scorekeeper's declaration within three days, then the above-mentioned player wins the Cycle and the winning condition is destroyed. (Otherwise, the player may still resort to CWCFJ as outlined in Rule 8.) A Cycle-Win CFJ shall be judged INVALID if it claims a Winning Condition which is subject to a declaration by the scorekeeper, made according to the previous paragraph, and no player has objected to that declaration. TIHTIESRIASNADDAECLLIUME II. Remove the following text from Rule 8 (Winning Conditions): " A Cycle-Win CFJ shall be judged INVALID if it claims a Winning Condition established by Rule 603, and, at the time it was submitted, it was less than three days since the Scorekeeper announced the CFJ's author to have achieved a Winning Condition, and no player had objected to that announcement. " ------------------------------ Subject: Acka: Proposal 3970 accepted From: jtraub@dragoncat.net Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:09:31 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3970 Yes votes: 8/10: proposal accepted Yes: Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) K 2 NY E NJ (The Razor Boomerangs) smallpox blanket (Klingon) else...if Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) O Olde Alpha JT (The Razor Boomerangs) No: Calvin N Hobbes Danek Baa: Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) ThinMan (Vulcan) Eric. (The Razor Boomerangs) Abstain r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) 404 Not Found rufus Vynd (Vulcan) two-star Pending & did not vote: WoHo Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Euphrates Slakko (SPAM) /dev/joe (Vulcan) Wild Card Subject: Acka: Proposal 3970 Proposal 3970 Share your income and keep it all K 2 Due: Wed Jan 6 13:17:24 1999 Status: accepted This is a modest proposal. {{[K2 gains a whole lot of A$; K3 plays a SYI; K2 go fishes the play; the sum of A$ remains untouchable by SYIs.]}} Replace the following text in Rule 7-14-5 (Otzma Card of type Share your income): " and amounts which have previously had Otzma Cards of this type played on them. " with: " and amounts which have had uncountered Otzma Cards of this type played on them. " ------------------------------ End of acka-voting Digest V4 #6 *******************************