acka-voting Digest Thursday, December 03 1998 Volume 03 : Issue 214 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3806 rejected Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 02:45:45 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3806 Votes: 15/24 (8 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 8/14: proposal rejected Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) Euphrates K 2 Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) else...if sIRE MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) No: smallpox blanket (Klingon) Slakko (SPAM) /dev/joe (Vulcan) Vynd ThinMan (Vulcan) JT (The Razor Boomerangs) Baa: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) rufus Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) Wild Card two-star Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) saaremaa (Vulcan) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3806 > >Proposal 3806 >We All Want To Change the World >The Green Ripper >Due: Wed Dec 2 23:44:38 1998 > > >In Rule 320, "Governments," delete any sentence with the string "50%" in >it. [ There are several Proposals in the works to change this sentence, >so I just want to be able to get it no matter what. For those of you who >like it, never fear; it comes back farther on. ] > >In Rule 320, "Governments," replace sections 4 and 5 with the text "4. >When the Revolution ends, the Proto-Government shall become Active. If no >other Rule specifies a means of ending the Revolution, it shall end >exactly one week after it began." > >[ & while I'm here ] >In Rule 320, "Governments," replace "1 and 0 respectively" with "1 and 0 >respectively." > >Create a Rule entitled "ASS Song: Revolution" as a member of the ASS >Rule Suite, containing the following GENERATION-delimited text: > >GENERATION >Title: Revolution > >Artist: The Beatles > >Trigger: 50% or more of all voting players have a Rebelliousness >characteristic of "On" and this fact is pointed out publically. > >Cost: A$1917 {{ [ Cheap at half the price! ] }} > >Effect: When this Song begins playing, a Revolution begins as described in >Rule 320, "Governments." The Revolution ends only when this Song ceases >to play; this sentence takes precedence over Rule 320. Despite the title, >when this Song begins playing, it shall sound randomly exactly like one of >the Beatles' "Revolution," "Revolution 1," and "Revolution 9." > >Duration: One Acka week. > >Explanation: "You say you want a revolution, well, you know we all want to >change the world." [The Beatles, "Revolution"] "Shoo bee doo wap, aaah, >shoo be doo wap." [The Beatles, "Revolution 1"] "Number nine, number >nine, number nine, number nine" [The Beatles, "Revolution 9"] >GENERATION > >If Proposal 3793 was accepted, replace "one week" in section 4 of Rule >320, "Governments," with "three days," and replace "One Acka week" in the >Rule entitled "ASS Song: Revolution" with "Three Acka days". > >Hubert gains a Losing Condition. > ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3807 rejected Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 02:45:56 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3807 Votes: 15/24 (8 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 8/14: proposal rejected Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) smallpox blanket (Klingon) K 2 Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) Vynd else...if MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) No: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Euphrates Slakko (SPAM) /dev/joe (Vulcan) ThinMan (Vulcan) JT (The Razor Boomerangs) Baa: sIRE Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) rufus Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) Wild Card two-star Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) saaremaa (Vulcan) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3807 > >Proposal 3807 >After Us The Deluge >The Green Ripper >Due: Wed Dec 2 23:49:00 1998 > > >A Party Chess Piece Locust is created in the possession of each Swinger. > >[ THIS should get the Scaremonger going. ] > ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3808 rejected Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 02:46:07 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3808 Votes: 15/24 (8 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 8/14: proposal rejected Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) Slakko (SPAM) K 2 /dev/joe (Vulcan) Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) else...if MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) No: Euphrates **** Bonus Vote (JT) **** smallpox blanket (Klingon) Vynd ThinMan (Vulcan) JT (The Razor Boomerangs) Baa: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) sIRE Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) rufus Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) Wild Card two-star Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) saaremaa (Vulcan) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3808 > >Proposal 3808 >Head Games >The Green Ripper >Due: Thu Dec 3 00:03:33 1998 > > >[ Gist: As the title implies, this Proposal plays around with heads. One >can buy heads from the AIGR as usual, or can remove them from the bodies >of opponents vanquished in Duels if one has a Highlander's Sword. (This >provides a reason other than novelty to own an HS.) One can use a head >one has won to win the Thrall of its original owner. Hats stick on Heads >and change ownership when their Heads do. ] > >Amend section a) of Rule 594.28, "Blueprint: Highlander's Sword," to read >"If the loser of the Duel owns any attached heads, the winner's Sword >detaches one at random and transfers it to the possession of the winner. >Otherwise, it transfers one of the loser's unattached heads, chosen at >random, to the winner. In any case, if the loser owns a Highlander's >Sword, that Sword destroys itself out of shame." [ Players with no Heads >can no longer become involved in Duels and forfeit any they might be in. ] > >Delete section b) of Rule 594.28, "Blueprint: Highlander's Sword." [ The >transferred sword is destroyed anyway, as THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! uh, >Highlander's Sword per player. ] > >Delete the text "If both duelists have a sword, the penalties from the >loser's sword are applied first." from the same Rule. [ Since the >penalties have changed from loss of points to loss of heads, I don't see >why the penalties from the loser's Sword should be applied twice, >causing eir Sword to cut off eir own head. ] > >Replace the final paragraph of Rule 594.28, "Blueprint: Highlander's >Sword" [having to do with Sword owners losing points for not being in >Duels] with the text "Each Saturday when the Raft and/or the Oars are >distributed, each player owning a Highlander's Sword who is not involved >in a Duel either as a principal or a Second loses 1 point." > >Create a rule numbered 857, entitled "Getting a Head" with the following >BOLEYN-delimited text: > >BOLEYN >The Head Shop is a cozy building near Vulcan Headquarters. It is owned by >the Headmaster, who is a unique nontradeable entity and owns himself. The >Headmaster's location is always the Head Shop unless specified otherwise >by the Rules. Any player who is in the Head Shop and owns an unattached >head and a neck without a head attached [ i.e., has more necks than >attached heads ] may pay the Standard Harfer Fee to the Treasury, upon >which the Headmaster will attach the specified head to a vacant neck of >that player; the head then becomes attached to that neck and associated >with the attaching player. >BOLEYN > >Create a rule numbered 1372, entitled "Head Games", with the following >LENNON-delimited text: > >LENNON >Necks are nontradeable entities. Heads are nontradeable entities which >exist only in two states: attached and unattached. Each head is >associated with exactly one player, which may or may not be its owner. >Heads may only change association or between the attached and unattached >states as described in the Rules. No player may own more attached heads >than e owns necks. > >The number of heads a player owns is referred to as eir Head Count. It is >the responsibility of the Dungeonmaster to keep track of each player's >Head Count, the state each Head is in (i.e. attached or unattached) and >the players with which each head is associated. [ An attached head should >always be associated with its owner. ] > >If a player has no attached heads, e cannot perform any action for which >the Rules would require em to read (e.g. reading a Scroll of Crumble, >Spell Book of Chorg, or the Ackanomicon) nor can e take any action other >than submitting a public message for which e would be required to speak. >If a player owns no Heads whatsoever, then in addition to the above e >cannot become involved in any Duels and forfeits any Duels e may already >be involved in. However, as having no Heads gives one a remarkably free >and uncluttered perspective on life, the Wisdom characteristic of a player >with no Heads is 3 greater than it would otherwise be, as long as e >remains in that state. > >As a public action, a player may invoke Voodoo Mumbo-Jumbo on an >unattached head in eir possession by unambiguously specifying the head in >question and the player with whom that head is associated. In order for >this action to be successful, the player must say "Memo to myself: do the >dumb things I gotta do. Touch X's head." where X is replaced by the name >of the player with whom the head in question is associated. It is also >considered good form for the message to include some truly vile pun about >heads. > >If the invocation of Voodoo Mumbo-Jumbo succeeds, the invoking player >becomes the Overlord of the player with whom the head is associated (i.e., >the latter's Thrall Attribute is set to the name of the invoking player) >and the Head used in the invocation is transferred to the player with whom >it is associated. >LENNON > >In Rule 854, "Ackanomic Institute of Genetic Replication," replace the >text "Extra head: Cost -- 50 A$." with the text "Extra Neck: Cost -- 50 >A$. An extra neck is created in the purchaser's possession, and the AIGR >will provide free of charge an extra head, created in the player's >possession, associated with that player, and attached to their new neck." > >In Rule 931, "Garments, Especially Hats," replace "A player may wear at >most one hat. This rule defers to any rule describing the the number and >type of hats a player may wear." with "A Hat which is worn must always be >worn on a single Head. At the time a Hat is donned, a player must specify >a Head in eir possession which does not already contain a hat on which e >wishes to don it. Thereafter, the Hat becomes so tightly attached to that >Head that if the Head is transferred from Player A to Player B, the Hat >changes ownership likewise. A player may doff a Hat from a Head e owns at >any time, upon which that Hat becomes unworn. {{ Hubert loses 2 points; >Pol Pot gains 2 points. }}" > >Create a number of Extra Neck mutations in the possession of each player >equal to one greater than the number of Extra Head mutations which that >player owns. > >All Extra Head mutations are destroyed. Each player gains a number of >Heads equal to the number of Extra Neck mutations e owns; these Heads are >created in eir possession, attached to a vacant Neck in eir possession, >and become associated with em. > ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3809 accepted Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 02:46:18 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3809 Votes: 15/24 (12 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 13/15: proposal accepted Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) The Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) smallpox blanket (Klingon) Slakko (SPAM) K 2 /dev/joe (Vulcan) Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) Vynd else...if ThinMan (Vulcan) JT (The Razor Boomerangs) MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) No: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Euphrates Baa: sIRE Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) rufus Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) Wild Card two-star Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) saaremaa (Vulcan) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3809 > >Proposal 3809 >What's one more amendment? >Vynd >Due: Thu Dec 3 00:50:48 1998 > > >{{[Is this the most amended rule? Anyway... I don't like our system of >handling Justices decling judgement. Specifically, I don't like how the >CFJ stays with the same Cortex, but one or even both of that Cortex's >owners are temporarily replaced. It makes it difficult to keep track of >who is judging what, and its well, messy, at least for me. Under the >proposed system, one Justice declining means that the CFJ is reassigned >entirely.]}} > >Amend Rule 217 by replacing the paragraph that follows VI. Declining >Appeal Judgement with the following text: > >When a CFJ is assigned to the Supreme Cortex that a Justice or Acting >Justice owns, that Justice or Acting Justice may, as a public action, >decline judgement on that CFJ, provided that the Cortex has not already >returned a verdict. When a Justice or Acting Justice declines judgement on >a CFJ, that CFJ is reassigned using the normal procedures for assigning a >CFJ to a Cortex, except that it may not be assigned to any Cortex which is >owned by a Justice or Acting Justice who has declined judgement on that >CFJ. If this results in there being no Cortexes eligible to judge the >appeal, then the CFJ will be considered by the entire Supreme Court. > ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3810 rejected Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:24:35 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3810 Votes: 15/24 (6 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 7/14: proposal rejected Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) else...if Giant Objectionable Potato Unity Vote Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) JT (The Razor Boomerangs) MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) No: Euphrates IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) K 2 /dev/joe (Vulcan) Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) Vynd ThinMan (Vulcan) Baa: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) sIRE Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) smallpox blanket (Klingon) Wallace Slakko (SPAM) Calvin N Hobbes Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) rufus Wild Card two-star Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) saaremaa (Vulcan) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3810 > >Proposal 3810 >Teeth For Chewing >Thomas Jute >Due: Thu Dec 3 04:58:43 1998 > > >{{[As the situation currently stands, 101 prevents both effects of CFJs >from occuring. It stops the retroactive fixes CFJ have been thought to >introduce, and it keeps them from doing anything to games custom. Thus, >there only effects are those which are predefined by other rules (Win >Conditions for example), if this is rejected I think my next prop will be >to repeal 215 as unnecessary.]}} > >Amend Rule 215 (Judgement-Rule Interaction) by replacing the TOOTHLESS >delimited text with the DENTURES delimited text. > >TOOTHLESS >All Judgements must be in accordance with all the rules in effect at the >time judgement was invoked, and with respect to the >game state at that time. When the rules are silent, inconsistent, or >unclear on the statement in question, however, then the Judge >shall consider currently existing game custom and the spirit of the game in >reaching a decision. > >A statement verified (or nullified) by judgement applies retroactively to >any past game situation it may concern. > >If a statement on which Judgement has been called is Judged to be true, and >that Judgement is not overruled, it does not >thereby become a rule, or any part of a rule. It merely becomes an explicit >part of currently accepted game custom. >TOOTHLESS > >DENTURES >All Judgements must be in accordance with all the rules in effect at the >time judgement was invoked, and with respect to the >game state at that time. When the rules are silent, inconsistent, or >unclear on the statement in question, however, then the Judge >shall consider currently existing game custom and the spirit of the game in >reaching a decision. > >A statement verified (or nullified) by judgement applies retroactively to >any past game situation it may concern. > >If a statement on which Judgement has been called is Judged to be true, and >that Judgement is not overruled, it does not >thereby become a rule, or any part of a rule. It merely becomes an explicit >part of currently accepted game custom. > >This rule takes precedence over Rule 101, even if Rule 101 says otherwise. >DENTURES > ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3811 rejected Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:24:45 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3811 Votes: 14/24 (7 YES votes): Quorum not met Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) else...if Giant Objectionable Potato Unity Vote Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) sIRE JT (The Razor Boomerangs) MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) No: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Euphrates K 2 /dev/joe (Vulcan) Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) Vynd ThinMan (Vulcan) Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) smallpox blanket (Klingon) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Wallace Slakko (SPAM) Calvin N Hobbes Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) rufus Wild Card two-star Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) saaremaa (Vulcan) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3811 > >Proposal 3811 >local vs. global precedence >Pol Pot >Due: Thu Dec 3 05:01:23 1998 > > >Amend rule 102 by appending to it the following sentence > >If two or more rules claim precedence over each other, then rules which >explicitly take precedence by name and/or number have stronger precedence >than rules which do not. ------------------------------ From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3811 rejected Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:21:44 -0500 (EST) > Proposal 3811 > > Votes: 14/24 (7 YES votes): Quorum not met > Abstain > Wallace As Fortunato pointed out the other day, he is named Fortunato now and changed his state to non-voting, so this proposal actually met quorum (barely) but was still rejected with 8 YESes out of 15 votes. VOTE, people! /dev/joe Tabulator ------------------------------ End of acka-voting Digest V3 #214 *********************************