acka-voting Digest Wednesday, December 02 1998 Volume 03 : Issue 213 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3849 Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 02:17:06 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3849 Infinitesimalia /dev/joe Due: Wed Dec 9 02:17:06 1998 Create a new rule numbered 103 and titled "Infinitesimalia", with the following ITSY_BITSY-delimited text: ITSY_BITSY Whenever, in a single message, a player performs more than one of any combination of public actions and posts of rule-specified text that cause some game effect (called "player-initiated events" in this rule), these events occur in the order they appear in the message, separated by infinitesimal lengths of time (so that they occur "in order" but also still all occur at the time the post is deemed to occur). If a player uses some sort of shorthand to perform several actions in a single statement, and doesn't specify an order for the events to occur in, then the order is determined randomly. Within each infinitesimal time between these events, all automatic events in the rules that occur as a direct or indirect result of the preceding player-initiated event will occur, and the next player-initiated event will not occur until there are no more automatic events waiting to be processed. Whenever more than one automatic event is triggered as a direct or indirect result of another event, the order of these events is determined as follows: 1. The rules which cause these events are considered in conflict, and Rule 102 is applied to determine which of them has precedence, and that one is chosen to occur first. If Rule 102 is not sufficient to determine one event that has precedence over the others, one event is chosen randomly. If only one event remains, that one is chosen. 2. The event chosen in step 1 occurs. 3. All automatic events which occur as a result of the event in step 2 occur, as well as all events which occur as a result of those events, etc., which may result in one or more separate instances of this procedure happening for those events, which complete before this procedure ends. 4. If there was more than one event to choose between in step 1, this entire procedure is repeated, excluding from the set of triggered events under consideration in that iteration the one event which was chosen in this iteration's step 1. This rule takes precedence over all other rules. ITSY_BITSY {{[ Whenever something in the rules triggers, all those things happen, and anything triggered off of that happens, etc., and when all that is through, whatever we were dealing with before continues, and the series of events in a public message has the lowest priority of all. This may break a few things, but considering the apparent brokenness of the rules that has appeared in the Museum/forgery-scam-win issue, they are already broken, and this seems to normally be the way things work, or are designed to work. If this *does* break anything, please fix it; without this rule as a start, we'll never sort out all our timing issues. Also, this *finally* codifies the long-standing game custom about things in public messages happening in sequence but in no actual time, i.e., all happen at the time stamped on the message. ]}} ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3804 accepted Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 17:10:23 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3804 Votes: 15/24 (13 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 14/16: proposal accepted Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) The Razor Boomerangs Unity Vote Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) Euphrates Slakko (SPAM) K 2 /dev/joe (Vulcan) Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) Vynd else...if ThinMan (Vulcan) JT (The Razor Boomerangs) MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) No: smallpox blanket (Klingon) sIRE Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) rufus Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) Wild Card two-star Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) saaremaa (Vulcan) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3804 > >Proposal 3804 >It's dead Jim... >Gromit >Due: Wed Dec 2 16:57:30 1998 > > >Repeal rule 419.2 (Internomic Interface) >Modify rule 419.1 (Ambassador) to read in full: > >"There exists the political office of Ambassador which has one seat. > >The duties of the office are to keep in touch with what is happening in >other nomics, namely: > >1) Providing information about Ackanomic to people holding similar posts >in other Nomics. >2) Requesting similar information about any other nomic at any player's >request." > >Also renumber the rule to 419 > >Repeal rule 419.3 (How are things out there?) > >Remove Pumpkin Patch Nomic from the Organization Metamorph. > >{{[Internomic is dead. Thring died not all that long ago, Agora has >withdrawn, the Pumpkin Patch is dead too (hence them being removed from >Metamorph) and there was a hideously gaping hole in the rules that made >us realise we actually haven't done anything for the past year or so (be >glad we have a pragmatism clause... :-)). Effectively this removes all >of the Internomic stuff which is now unnecessary. It keeps Ambassador >but changes it from functional to political since it really isn't worth >a salary any more. I was reluctant to repeal 419.3 but I can't think how >it can be done without Internomic liaisons. It was never really very >well used though so I don't think it will be terribly missed.]}} > ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3805 accepted Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 18:00:16 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3805 Votes: 15/24 (9 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 9/11: proposal accepted Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) Slakko (SPAM) K 2 /dev/joe (Vulcan) Vynd else...if sIRE JT (The Razor Boomerangs) No: Euphrates Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) Baa: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) smallpox blanket (Klingon) ThinMan (Vulcan) MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) rufus Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) Wild Card two-star Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) saaremaa (Vulcan) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3805 > >Proposal 3805 >It takes way too long >Pol Pot >Due: Wed Dec 2 17:32:55 1998 > > >In rule 1250.22, replace "10" with "5" > >{{[shorten the length of bacon games]}} > >{{If any game of bacon has any players with more than 5 points, the game >immediately ends and the player with the higher score is the winner.}} ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3850 Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 20:17:37 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3850 Nekashtuamani Alfvaen Due: Wed Dec 9 20:17:33 1998 This is a Modest proposal. Amend Rule 1250.18, "Ye Olde Rusty Lantern", as follows: Replace the text(delimited by INNU): INNU There must be at least two Bards for a tale to proceed, and no more Bards than benches; any time this is not the case for a particular instance of Ye Olde Rusty Lantern, that tale is suspended until the requirements are both met. (In the meantime, Bards are free to join or leave, but no cards may be played.) INNU with the following text(delimited by KASHTIN): KASHTIN There must be at least two Bards for a tale to proceed, and no more Bards than benches; any time this is not the case for a particular instance of Ye Olde Rusty Lantern, that tale is suspended until the requirements are both met. (In the meantime, Bards are free to join or leave, but no cards may be played.) If the game is being played as a Duel, however, then if at any time there is only one Bard, that player is the winner. KASHTIN {{ If there is a YORL Duel in progress with only one Bard, then that player wins that Duel. }} ------------------------------ End of acka-voting Digest V3 #213 *********************************