acka-voting Digest Saturday, November 28 1998 Volume 03 : Issue 208 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3766 rejected Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:41:21 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3766 Votes: 18/24 (9 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 9/20: proposal rejected Tammany Bribes: Gromit A$42 no Yes: Euphrates Slakko (SPAM) /dev/joe (Vulcan) else...if JT (The Razor Boomerangs) Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Thomas Jute (Giant Objectionable Potato) ThinMan (Vulcan) sIRE (Klingon) No: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Pol Pot (Giant Objectionable Potato) **** Bonus Vote (Gromit) **** smallpox blanket (Klingon) K 2 Gromit (The Razor Boomerangs) Vynd Tammany Wild Card (SPAM) two-star Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes (HARF) rufus (SPAM) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) The Green Ripper (The Razor Boomerangs) Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3766 > >Proposal 3766 >The One Person, One Name Principle >else...if >Due: Fri Nov 27 21:38:04 1998 > >Remove ", at which time the player in question shall pay the Standard >Harfer Fee" from rule 251 (Player Names). > >Append "Three days after this sentence is added to this rule, all >paragraphs in this rule other than the first are repealed." to the end of >rule 251. ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3767 accepted Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:41:32 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3767 Votes: 19/24 (16 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 17/19: proposal accepted Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) else...if Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) Pol Pot (Giant Objectionable Potato) Slakko (SPAM) K 2 /dev/joe (Vulcan) Gromit (The Razor Boomerangs) Vynd JT (The Razor Boomerangs) Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Giant Objectionable Potato Unity Vote Thomas Jute (Giant Objectionable Potato) ThinMan (Vulcan) sIRE (Klingon) Wild Card (SPAM) two-star No: Euphrates smallpox blanket (Klingon) Baa: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Abstain Wallace Calvin N Hobbes (HARF) rufus (SPAM) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) The Green Ripper (The Razor Boomerangs) Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3767 > >Proposal 3767 >Creme d'Impeachmant a la Mode >Vynd >Due: Fri Nov 27 23:20:36 1998 > > >This is a Modest Proposal. > >{{[As the impeachment rule stands a successful IP is practically >impossible. It seems to me that the rule as it stands is designed to >prevent an unduly small number of players from being able to remove >someone from office, but I think its requirements can easily be relaxed >without increasing the risk of trivial or spiteful impeachments. But maybe >I was a little overzealous in my first draft, so I've gone ahead and >included a minimum of 25% of voting players, as requested. By my count, >this would require at least 6 votes if the rule were in force today, I >guess I can live with that. But if we ever actually have every single >active player vote in an IP, and their votes split exactly down the >middle, well maybe, MAYBE, then we will need to think about "fixing" the >other condition. Maybe.]}} > >In Rule 404 Offices, Impeachments, replace section (iv) with the following >EASIER delimited text: > >EASIER > >(iv) At the expiration of the voting period, there will be a resolution of >ACCEPTED or REJECTED for the IP. An IP is always rejected if less than >25% of all active players, excluding the Officer named in the IP, vote on >that IP. An IP is also REJECTED unless it meets one or more of the >conditions below, in which case it is ACCEPTED: a) at least 1/2 of all >active players, excluding the Officer named in the IP, voted YES. b) At >least 2/3 of all players who voted on the IP voted YES. > >EASIER > ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3768 accepted Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:08:35 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3768 Votes: 17/23 (12 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 12/17: proposal accepted Yes: else...if Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Pol Pot (Giant Objectionable Potato) Slakko (SPAM) K 2 /dev/joe (Vulcan) Gromit (The Razor Boomerangs) JT (The Razor Boomerangs) Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Thomas Jute (Giant Objectionable Potato) ThinMan (Vulcan) sIRE (Klingon) No: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) smallpox blanket (Klingon) Vynd Wild Card (SPAM) two-star Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes (HARF) rufus (SPAM) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) The Green Ripper (The Razor Boomerangs) Pending & did not vote: Euphrates Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3768 > >Proposal 3768 >It Hurt My Eyes >Alfvaen >Due: Sat Nov 28 00:53:12 1998 > > >This is a Modest proposal. > >Repeal Rule 206, "Keep 'Em In The Game". > >{{[ The Otzma Creation loophole should be patched soon, but if anything >like it comes along in the future, it would be a bad idea. And there's >also all those Puppetheaders who've been taking advantage of it. ]}} > ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3769 rejected Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:08:46 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3769 Votes: 18/24 (8 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 9/19: proposal rejected Tammany Bribes: Pol Pot A$38 no JT A$26 yes Yes: Euphrates Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) /dev/joe (Vulcan) Gromit (The Razor Boomerangs) else...if JT (The Razor Boomerangs) Thomas Jute (Giant Objectionable Potato) sIRE (Klingon) **** Bonus Vote (JT) **** No: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) Pol Pot (Giant Objectionable Potato) Slakko (SPAM) K 2 smallpox blanket (Klingon) ThinMan (Vulcan) Tammany Wild Card (SPAM) two-star **** Bonus Vote (Pol Pot) **** Baa: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Vynd Abstain Wallace Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) Calvin N Hobbes (HARF) rufus (SPAM) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) The Green Ripper (The Razor Boomerangs) Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3769 > >Proposal 3769 >Don't Annoy the Harfers >JT >Due: Sat Nov 28 02:51:56 1998 > >This is a modest proposal. >Amend rule 721 (Annoyances) as follows by replacing section IV with the >following text as delimited by EVEN_MORE_ANNOYING >EVEN_MORE_ANNOYING > IV. Disrespecting the Harfers > > Showing a lack of respect to the officers who harf the game when they > are acting in their capacity as officers, or refusing to acknowledge > the work done by such functional officers is Annoying. It is also very > impolite. > > It is considered disrepectful to the harfers to include actions in a > majority of messages over a given 24 hour period such that those > actions continuosly require a harfer to check or modify some piece of > data. [Examples of this would be adding "More than 50% of the players > have a rebelliousness characteristic set to 'on'" or "Happy! Happy! > Happy!" or "I remove myself from the CFJ ineligibility list".] A > player who does not take the time to check the game conditions to the > best of eir ability before performing an action that is dependant > on game conditions is Annoying, Impolite, and downright Obnoxious. >EVEN_MORE_ANNOYING ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3770 accepted Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 13:29:06 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3770 Votes: 17/24 (10 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 10/16: proposal accepted Yes: else...if Pol Pot (Giant Objectionable Potato) Slakko (SPAM) K 2 Gromit (The Razor Boomerangs) Vynd JT (The Razor Boomerangs) Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Wild Card (SPAM) two-star No: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Euphrates /dev/joe (Vulcan) smallpox blanket (Klingon) ThinMan (Vulcan) Baa: sIRE (Klingon) Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes (HARF) rufus (SPAM) Thomas Jute (Giant Objectionable Potato) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) The Green Ripper (The Razor Boomerangs) Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3770 > >Proposal 3770 >Space Travel >else...if >Due: Sat Nov 28 10:16:48 1998 > > Create rule 827, "Cross-Temporal Hyper-Undulating Location Harfing >Unstabilizers" reading as delimited by GADGET >GADGET > Cross-Temporal Hyper-Undulating Location Harfing Unstabilizers may >be purchased by a player from the Treasury for A$200. CTHULHUs are >nameless, tradeable entities which are either ACTIVE or INACTIVE. The >owner of an INACTIVE CTHULHU may link it to a building e owns which does >not already have a CTHULU linked to it; it ceases to be linked to any other >buildings the CTHULHU was already linked to. A linked CTHULHU may be >ACTIVEated. An ACTIVE CTHULHU may be INACTIVEated. An INAVCTIVE linked >CTHULHU may be delinked, at which time it ceases to be linked to any >buildings. An ACTIVE CTHULHU may not be delinked or traded. > When a CTHULHU is ACTIVE, a dial appears on it which has all the >numbers from 1 to the number of kaas the building it is linked to is on, >however it may only be set to integers in that range. Only the owner of a >CTHULHU may set its dial. When an earthquake occurs, a building which is >linked to an ACTIVE CTHULHU should consist of a number of non-contiguous >pieces equal to the number on the dial after the earthquake. > The owner of an ACTIVE CTHULHU may pay one SHF to the Treasury and >one to the Map-Harfer to trigger an earthquake. > This rule takes priority over rules which would allow ACTIVE >CTHULHUs to be traded or rules which give alternate instructions for what >should be done with buildings during an earthquake. >GADGET ------------------------------ From: Kelly Hubert Kelly Subject: Acka: Retractions Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:02:33 -0500 (EST) #retract 3795 #retract 3785 #end I retract Proposals 3795 & 3785. K 2 ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3823 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:02:39 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3823 Humph K 2 Due: Sat Dec 5 16:02:39 1998 This is a Modest Proposal. {{[The previous version deleted Jt's unscam section.]}} {{[The intent of this proposal is that points may be converted to a random otzma. If the random otzma exceeds limits its destroyed.]}} Replace sub-sections i, ii and iii of section a (Otzma Card Conversion) of Rule 1045 (Alternative uses for points) with: " (i) A Player may convert 10 points into an Otzma Card randomly selected from those types with an F-Designation of Common. (ii) A Player may convert 15 points into an Otzma Card randomly selected from those types with an F-Designation of Normal or Common. (iii) A Player may convert 20 points into an Otzma Card of a randomly determined type. " ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3824 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:02:53 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3824 Generic Proposal Title #3824 K 2 Due: Sat Dec 5 16:02:52 1998 Amend Rule 560 (Contracts) in the following ways: I. replace the following paragraph: " A Contract may specify a penalty clause for breaking any of the terms of the Contract. This penalty clause may only specify the loss of a positive number of points, tradeable entities or some combination thereof. If a penalty clause is not specified explicitly, it is considered to specify the loss of 5 points. If the clause specifies entities and the player who broke the terms of the Contract does not own that number or type of entities then that player shall lose 5 points in addition to any points specified by the penalty clause. " with: " A Contract may specify a penalty clause for breaking any of the terms of the Contract. If a penalty clause is not specified explicitly, it is considered to specify the loss of 5 points. A contract's penalty clause(s) may only specify the loss of a positive number of points, tradeable entities or some combination thereof. If a clause specifies entities and the player who broke the terms of the Contract does not own that number or type of entities then that player shall lose 5 points in addition to any points specified by the penalty clause. " II. replace the following paragraph: " No Contract will have any game effect until it has been signed by at least two players (including the creator) " with: " A player may unsign any contract e has signed as a public action provided that the contract permits such an action. At the time a player unsigns a contract any penalty for unsigning specified by the contract is applied and the player is no longer considered to have signed the contract. No Contract will have any game effect while less than two players have signed it. " ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3825 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:03:07 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3825 XXXX K 2 Due: Sat Dec 5 16:03:06 1998 This is a Modest Proposal. {{[Repeal of the amber banana]}} Replace the following text from Rule 613 "Winning is pretty harfy (Winning by doing a lot of stuff)": "18 Jazz JackRabbit, Passive Contemplator, or Owner of the Amber Banana Tree" with: "18 Jazz JackRabbit or Passive Contemplator" Replace the following text from Rule 910 (The Ackanomicon): " Not so Forbidden Fruit (4 pages): The player has an out of body experience in which he is transported to an primordial jungle where he is worshiped as a god by the natives. Upon waking up, he will find that all he has left to remember it by is an Amber Banana. " with: " Not so Forbidden Fruit (4 pages): The player has an out of body experience in which he is transported to an primordial jungle where he is worshiped as a god by the natives. Upon waking up, he will find that all he has left to remember it by is a pint of lager. " Repeal Rule 921 (Acid Rain Dance). Repeal Rule 923 (The Amber Banana). Replace the phrase "eating an Amber Banana" with "frinking Ali'i Macadamia Nut Ale" in Rule 943 (Hula!). Replace the phrase "III. If a player is in the Wilds of Ackanomic, he receives an Amber Banana" in Rule 975 (Yes Virginia) with "III. If a player is in the Wilds of Ackanomic, he receives a pint of lager." {{All Amber Bananas are turned into a pint of lager.}} ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3826 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:03:26 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3826 On the subject of Tax K 2 Due: Sat Dec 5 16:03:26 1998 Replace subsection ii of Section e of Rule 666 (End of Cycle) which currently reads: " ii) All entities with a Total Wealth greater than zero and all players with a negative Total Wealth, shall be placed on The List in decreasing order of Total Wealth. If there is a tie for Total Wealth, the Financier shall make the random determination necessary to order the entities on the list. " With " ii) All entities with a Total Wealth greater than zero and all players with a Total Wealth of zero or less, shall be placed on The List in decreasing order of Total Wealth. If there is a tie for Total Wealth, the Financier shall make the random determination necessary to order the entities on the list. " ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3827 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:03:37 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3827 More like a Cyclone less like the Cayman Islands K 2 Due: Sat Dec 5 16:03:36 1998 Replace subsection iii of Section e of Rule 666 (End of Cycle) which currently reads: " ii) The entity appearing highest on The List, shall transfer 5% of eir total wealth to the player lowest on The List and both entities shall be removed from The List. " with: " iii) A random entity appearing in the first half of The List, shall transfer 5% of eir total wealth to the active player lowest on The List and both entities shall be removed from The List. " ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3828 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:03:47 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3828 As if Winning wasn't enough K 2 Due: Sat Dec 5 16:03:47 1998 This is a Modest Proposal. Replace subsections i of Section e of Rule 666 (End of Cycle) which currently reads: " i) Excluding the winner, all entities with a Total Wealth greater than zero shall transfer 10% of eir Total Wealth to the Treasury. " with " i) All entities with a Total Wealth greater than zero shall transfer 10% of eir Total Wealth to the Treasury. " ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3829 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:09:47 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3829 Debunking the OiCoRT K 2 Due: Sat Dec 5 21:09:46 1998 1. Append the following text to Rule 412 (Financier and Free Market) as a new section: " e) To perform any random determinations involved in a process related solely to the transfer of tradable entities. " 1.1 Delete the following text from section e.iii in Rule 666 (End of Cycle): " If there is a tie for Total Wealth, the Financier shall make the random determination necessary to order the entities on the list. " {{[This duty will cover any random determinations encountered during EOC taxes and as the result of a successful Gold Digger - easier than waiting for the OiCoRT before harfing a particular event. As a side effect Guardian Angel random determinaions will need to be made by the financier as well. Since Museum Theft can involved "being caught" hopefully it isn't "a process related solely to the transfer of tradable entities".]}} 2. Append the following text to Rule 410 (Scorekeeper) as a new section: " (d) To perform any random determinations involved in a process solely involving Points. " 2.1 Delete the following text from Rule 1313 (Tornado): " The Scorekeeper is responsible for carrying out this procedure, when the Rules call for it to occur. " {{[Different Officer similar effect]}} 3. Amend Rule 441 (Dungeon Master) by: 3.1 replacing the following text: " (i) to generate Basic Player Characteristics when required to do so. " with: " (i) to perform any random determinations that only effect Characteristics. " 3.2 replacing the following text: " (iii) to track the membership of each of the Castes [See rule 1030]. " with: " " (iii) to assign players to Castes and track the membership of each of the Castes [See rule 1030]. " {{[Essentially random determinations effecting the things they track - The DM does get paid now after all :)]}} ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3830 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:09:58 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3830 Higher! I want to go higher! K 2 Due: Sat Dec 5 21:09:56 1998 This is a Modest Proposal. Delete the following text from section i of rule 666 (End of Cycle) : " If the last two cycles were not won by points, then amend Rule 603 to change the base value of the Magic Number to the smallest prime number greater than (the current Magic Number*0.9). " ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3831 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:24:53 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3831 Generic Proposal Title #3831 Wild Card Due: Sat Dec 5 21:24:52 1998 "{{Wild Card is given sufficient A$ from the treasury to make his sum total of A$ non-negative}}" ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3771 accepted Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:33:40 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3771 Votes: 17/24 (14 YES votes): Quorum met Yes votes: 14/15: proposal accepted Yes: r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) else...if Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Pol Pot (Giant Objectionable Potato) Slakko (SPAM) K 2 /dev/joe (Vulcan) Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) smallpox blanket (Klingon) Vynd JT ThinMan Wild Card two-star No: Euphrates Baa: Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) sIRE Abstain Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) Wallace Calvin N Hobbes rufus Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) Pending & did not vote: Danek scout Red Barn Vacationing & did not vote: Aunt Froot Ethelred J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) saaremaa (Vulcan) >Subject: Acka: Proposal 3771 > >Proposal 3771 >Beyond The Bounds of Reason >Alfvaen >Due: Sat Nov 28 23:32:05 1998 > > >This is a Modest proposal. > >Amend Rule 431, "Illuminatus", to replace the sentence >"The Illuminatus shall announce a call for Agenda Condition submissions >if, for any reason, the player currently holding the office of >Illuminatus has announced no such call during the current cycle." >with >"The Illuminatus has the Duty to announce a call for Agenda Condition >submissions if, for any reason, the player currently holding the office >of Illuminatus has announced no such call during the current cycle, >and there is no call for Agenda Conditions currently in progress." > ------------------------------ From: devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu Subject: Acka: Proposal 3832 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:46:42 -0500 (EST) Proposal 3832 Police State K 2 Due: Sat Dec 5 23:46:41 1998 Create a new rule as part of the the rule suite numbered 320 (Governments Rule Suite) with the title "Government Type: Police State" and the following text: " The following shall apply while the Police State is active: i) Tammany will not vote on any proposal. ii) All Proposals are guarded. iii) All proposal bribes are invalid. iv) Political parties will not generate unity votes. " If rule 923 (The Amber Banana) exists append the following text to the end of the list in the rule that was just created by this proposal: " v) Eating an Amber Banana shall have no effect on the owner of the Amber Banana Tree. vi) The Amber Banana Tree can not vote on any proposal " ------------------------------ End of acka-voting Digest V3 #208 *********************************