From: owner-acka-voting-digest@muppetlabs.com (acka-voting-digest) To: acka-voting-digest@muppetlabs.com Subject: acka-voting-digest V3 #122 Reply-To: acka-voting@muppetlabs.com Sender: owner-acka-voting-digest@muppetlabs.com Errors-To: owner-acka-voting-digest@muppetlabs.com Precedence: bulk acka-voting-digest Wednesday, August 5 1998 Volume 03 : Number 122 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:10:23 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3321 rejected Results of Proposal 3321 16/24 votes: Quorum achieved 8/16 YES votes: Proposal rejected YES: Vynd (Vulcan) /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred NO: else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) breadbox Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) BAA!: ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) Studge Piz INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden > Proposal 3321 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:24 EDT > If we're going to keep it then why not make it a bit more > Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley) > > interesting > > This is a modest proposal. > > Modify rule 340 by replacing: > > "VI. Whenever division is performed in Ackanomic, and the denominator of > that division evaluates to 0, then the result of that entire division shall > be 0. > " > > with: > > "VI. Whenever division is performed in Ackanomic, and the denominator of > that division evaluates to 0, then the result of that entire division shall > be 326.47." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:10:40 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3322 rejected Results of Proposal 3322 16/24 votes: Quorum achieved 6/15 YES votes: Proposal rejected YES: /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Publius Slakko (SPAM) Ethelred NO: Vynd (Vulcan) K 2 else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) JT (Boomerangs) Attila the Pun breadbox Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) BAA!: Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) Studge Piz INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden > Proposal 3322 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:26 EDT > Lager, sir... > Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley) > > This is a modest proposal. > > Amend rule 1390.2 by appending the following text immediately following the > first sentence: > > "Any frink defined as regal is also Royal." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:11:07 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3323 rejected Results of Proposal 3323 16/24 votes: Quorum achieved 6/16 YES votes: Proposal rejected YES: /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) Ethelred NO: Vynd (Vulcan) K 2 else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) JT (Boomerangs) breadbox Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) BAA!: ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) Studge Piz INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden > Proposal 3323 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:27 EDT > Another of these boring minor fixes > Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley) > > This is a modest proposal. > > In rule 594 replace the text: > > "XI. All Blueprints defer precedence to rules which are not Blueprints. " > > with the text: > > "XI. All Blueprints defer precedence to rules which are not Blueprints > unless they explicitly claim precedence over a given rule or rules in which > case they take precedence over that/those rule(s) only." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:11:54 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3324 accepted Results of Proposal 3324 16/24 votes: Quorum achieved 12/17 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 else...if (SPAM) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) MetaMorph Unity Vote NO: Vynd (Vulcan) Rex Mundi (Klingon) JT (Boomerangs) breadbox Ethelred BAA!: ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) Studge Piz INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden > Proposal 3324 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:29 EDT > The Great Debunk > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > {{[Initially I thought I'd write six separate proposals debunking those > gadgets I thought had outlived eir usefulness, but since such minimalist > proposals are frowned upon I thought I'd try a slightly different > approach.]}} > > Create a rule numbered 592 Titled "The Great Debunk" with the following > HERRING delimited text: > > ---- > HERRING > [During The Great Debunk, specifying a gadget is effectively a Yes vote for > its repeal. Not specifying a gadget is a No vote and not voting in the > hearing is an abstention.] > > This rule takes precedence over Rule 360 (Hearings). > > The Great Debunk is a hearing in which: > > i) only active voting players may vote. > ii) a valid response consists of a list of gadgets refereed to by name or > by the rule number that defines them, or any combination of the two. > iii) in addition to those responses deemed valid by section ii, a blank > list, or one which states that no gadgets should be debunked, is also a > valid response. > iv) the verdict is a list of gadgets for which the number of valid > responses to the hearing that included that gadget was equal to or greater > than three fifths the total number of valid responses. > > At the conclusion of The Great Debunk if at least half of all active voting > players submitted a valid response, all gadgets listed in the verdict are > debunked. > > One week after this rule is created it is repealed. > HERRING > ---- > > {{The Great Debunk hearing is called}} > > {{[The six gadgets I had in mind... > Gravitational Monopole (Rule 594.6) > Jukkasjarvi Mind Control Laser (Rule 594.8) > Bonus Vote Add-On (Rule 594.11) > Gimme Shelter (Rule 594.12) > Cheez-Whiz (Rule 594.14) > Pulse Laser (Rule 594.15)]}} ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:13:20 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3325 accepted Results of Proposal 3325 16/24 votes: Quorum achieved 9/13 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) Attila the Pun Ethelred NO: Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) breadbox Publius Slakko (SPAM) BAA!: Vynd (Vulcan) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) Studge Piz INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden > Proposal 3325 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:30 EDT > The Senate > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > {{[before it gets repealed ;) it should prolly be made less of a Hubert > situation]}} > > Rule 437 (Providing Meaning Where We Can) to replace the following > sentence: > ---- > All Calls last until the end of the next day after they were issued, unless > canceled by the President. > ---- > with: > ---- > All Calls last for three days after they were issued, unless canceled by > the President. > ---- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:13:49 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3326 rejected Results of Proposal 3326 16/24 votes: Quorum achieved 8/14 YES votes: Proposal rejected YES: /dev/joe (Vulcan) else...if (SPAM) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) Attila the Pun Slakko (SPAM) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred NO: Vynd (Vulcan) Brie Clump Rex Mundi (Klingon) Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) breadbox Publius BAA!: K 2 Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) Studge Piz INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden > Proposal 3326 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:32 EDT > There's a place for those who love their poetry > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > This is a Modest Proposal. > > Repeal Rule 424 (Poet Laureate) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:14:22 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3327 accepted Results of Proposal 3327 16/24 votes: Quorum achieved 12/15 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: Vynd (Vulcan) /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 else...if (SPAM) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) NO: Rex Mundi (Klingon) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred BAA!: breadbox ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) Studge Piz INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden > Proposal 3327 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:33 EDT > May > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > This is a Modest Proposal. > > {{[Writing it the way its played.]}} > > Amend Section c of Rule 207.3 (Foolishness) that currently reads: > ----- > c) Either the player submitting the proposal was the author of the previous > proposal, or the player submitting the proposal gives proper credit to the > original author. If the original author is still a player of Ackanomic, it > is considered good form to transfer some of the points gained through the > resubmitted proposal's Foolishness to em. > ----- > to read: > ----- > c) The player submitting the proposal was the author of the previous > proposal. > ----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:23:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Raiter Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3321 rejected Looks like my scripts are still a bit faulty, specifically regarding the pending status. Studge and Piz ought to be listed under Pending (instead of under Abstained). Also, will the Scorekeeper and Registrar please note that Publius lost eir Pending status with the publishing of Proposal 3309 on 30 Jul 1998 08:34 EDT (Thursday). I failed to note this fact, so it may have gone unrecorded elsewhere as well.... We apologize for the inconvenience. breadbox ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:26:23 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3328 accepted Results of Proposal 3328 16/22 votes: Quorum achieved 10/15 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: Vynd (Vulcan) /dev/joe (Vulcan) K 2 else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) Attila the Pun breadbox Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) Ethelred NO: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) Publius J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) BAA!: Brie Clump ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3328 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:34 EDT > Treasured Treasure > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > This is a Modest Proposal. > > {{[Its been used once and we weren't exactly buried ;) in undiscovered > treasure then. If it proves necessary in the future (IMVUHO) a better > implementation (ie more in the spirit of Treasure hunting) would be to > allow the treasure harfer to create a new, publically knowable map for > which all players would be eligible and to which any two players could > object...]}} > > Amend Rule 1217 (Buried Treasure!) by delting the following "----" > delimited text: > ---- > IV. > > If there currently exist Treasures which have not yet been found, for which > no map custodian or map writer is a current player, and for which both of > the previous states have been true for more than 90 days, then the > Archaeologist has the prerogative of organizing an Expedition. They > announce an Expedition as a public action. Any treasure which meets the > three Treasure criteria defined in the first sentence is known as a > Historical Artefact. > > The Archaeologist is automatically a member of an expedition. Any active > player may become a member of an expedition by stating so as a public > action, and paying A$40 to the Treasury. When the Archaeologist announces > an Expedition, e may also specify a certain set of Treasures which are not > to be considered Historical Artefacts for the purposes of this Expedition. > > An Expedition happens 3 days after it is announced, with the proviso that > if there are fewer than 3 players in the Expedition, it shall not happen > and all monies paid to gain membership in the Expedition shall be refunded. > At the time of the Expedition, if there are at least as many Historical > Artefacts as members of the Expedition, then the Archaeologist will > randomly determine one Historical Artefact to be assigned to each member of > the expedition, including emself. Each Treasure assigned in this way is > "found" by the player it is assigned to. > > If, on the other hand, at the time of the Expedition there are more > Expedition members than Historical Artefacts, then the Archaeologist shall > randomly determine one expedition member to be assigned to each Historical > Artefact. Each player assigned shall find the Treasure they are assigned > to. > > Only one Expedition may be announced in any calendar month. > ---- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:26:48 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3329 rejected Results of Proposal 3329 16/22 votes: Quorum achieved 7/14 YES votes: Proposal rejected YES: Vynd (Vulcan) K 2 else...if (SPAM) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred NO: /dev/joe (Vulcan) Rex Mundi (Klingon) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) breadbox Publius Slakko (SPAM) BAA!: Brie Clump Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3329 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:35 EDT > Putting the "K 2 wins the / > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > current cycle" back into mimsy. > This is a Modest Proposal. > > Amend Rule 250 (Players and Player States) to insert between items f and g > of section VI "Upon Becoming (and while) On Ice" the following item: > --- > g) All of their mimsy entities are transferred to the treasury. > --- > and reletter the list appropriately. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:27:13 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3330 rejected Results of Proposal 3330 16/22 votes: Quorum achieved 6/14 YES votes: Proposal rejected YES: K 2 Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred NO: Vynd (Vulcan) /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) breadbox BAA!: Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3330 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:38 EDT > Prop Dream > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > This IS a modest proposal. > > {{[Fiddling with the proposal scores > currently: > Modest Non modest Grandiose > Accept|--------------------------- > Author| 5 10 16 > Anti | 1 3 5 > Reject|--------------------------- > Author| -4(-3) -7(-4) -12(-7) > Anti | 1 3 5 > > ]}} > > Amend Section III (Scoring on Proposals) of Rule 207 (Scoring When A > Proposal's Voting Results are Reported) to read: > " > III. Scoring on Proposals > > If a Modest proposal is accepted, the player who proposed it receives 5 > points, and every player who voted NO on it receives 1 point. If a > Grandiose proposal is accepted, the player who proposed it receives 10 > points, and every player who voted NO on it receives 3 points. If a > proposal which is neither Modest nor Grandiose is accepted, the player who > proposed it receives 7 points, and every player who voted NO on it receives > 2 points. > > If a Modest proposal is rejected, but meets quorum, the player who proposed > it loses 4 points, and every player who voted YES on it receives 1 point. > If a Grandiose proposal is rejected, but meets quorum, the player who > proposed it loses 8 points, and every player who voted YES on it receives 3 > points. If a proposal which is neither Modest nor Grandiose is rejected, > but meets quorum, the player who proposed it loses 6 points, and every > player who voted YES on it receives 2 points. > " > > {{[Translation: > Modest Non modest Grandiose > Accept|--------------------------- > Author| 5 7 10 > Anti | 1 2 3 > Reject|--------------------------- > Author| -4(-3) -6(-4) -8(-5) > Anti | 1 2 3 > > ]}} > > {{ K 2 loses 6 points. Vynd gains 6 points. }} ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:27:39 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3331 accepted Results of Proposal 3331 17/22 votes: Quorum achieved 13/18 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 else...if (SPAM) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred MetaMorph Unity Vote NO: Vynd (Vulcan) Rex Mundi (Klingon) rufus (SPAM) JT (Boomerangs) breadbox BAA!: ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3331 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:41 EDT > O Freunde, nicht diese Tone! > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > Create a new rule titled "ASS song: Ode to Joy" as a member of the > "Ackanomic Sound System Rule Suite" (Rule 950) with the text: > " > Title: Ode to Joy; Allegro assai, fr Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125, Choral > Artist: Music by Beethoven > Trigger: Whenever a proposal has been accepted which was authored by a > player who had never had a proposal accepted before. > Effect: > i) Every player that voted yes on the proposal that triggered the song > gains one point. > ii) Any player who's score is within 5% of the happy number may change eir > score to the happy number as a public action. > iii) Whenever a player has a score which is exactly equal to the sad number > e gains one point. > Duration: Three Acka days. > Explanation: "That way, everyone's happy." [Terry Pratchett, Small Gods] > " ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:33:36 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3333 accepted Results of Proposal 3333 17/22 votes: Quorum achieved 14/22 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 else...if (SPAM) JT (Boomerangs) Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred Bonus Vote [/dev/joe used a Bonus Vote] Bonus Vote [Niccolo Flychuck used a Bonus Vote] Bonus Vote [Brie Clump used a Bonus Vote] Tammany [JT bribed Tammany A$25] [Brie Clump bribed Tammany A$112 (YES)] NO: Vynd (Vulcan) Rex Mundi (Klingon) rufus (SPAM) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) breadbox Bonus Vote [Rex Mundi used a Bonus Vote] BAA!: ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato Bonus Vote [JT used a Bonus Vote] INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3333 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:44 EDT > If at first you don't succeed... > Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley) > > {{[Warning: Repeals antivoting]}} > > Modify rule 207 by replacing the following ZXCVBNM delimited text: > > ZXCVBNM > III. Scoring on Proposals > > If a Modest proposal is accepted, the player who proposed it receives 5 > points, and every player who voted NO on it receives 1 point. If a > Grandiose proposal is accepted, the player who proposed it receives 16 > points, and every player who voted NO on it receives 5 points. If a > proposal which is neither Modest nor Grandiose is accepted, the player who > proposed it receives 10 points, and every player who voted NO on it > receives 3 points. > > If a Modest proposal is rejected, but meets quorum, the player who proposed > it loses 4 points, and every player who voted YES on it receives 1 point. > If a Grandiose proposal is rejected, but meets quorum, the player who > proposed it loses 12 points, and every player who voted YES on it receives > 5 points. If a proposal which is neither Modest nor Grandiose is rejected, > but meets quorum, the player who proposed it loses 7 points, and every > player who voted YES on it receives 3 points. > > Voting NO on a proposal which is accepted, or voting YES on a proposal > which is rejected, is called "anti-voting". > > A proposal can only be declared to be Modest or Grandiose as defined by the > Rules. > ZXCVBNM > > with the following ASDFGHJKL delimited text: > > ASDFGHJKL > III. Scoring on Proposals > > If a Modest proposal is accepted, the player who proposed it receives 5 > points. If a Grandiose proposal is accepted, the player who proposed it > receives 16 points. If a proposal which is neither Modest nor Grandiose is > accepted, the player who proposed it receives 10 points. > > If a Modest proposal is rejected, but meets quorum, the player who proposed > it loses 4 points. If a Grandiose proposal is rejected, but meets quorum, > the player who proposed it loses 12 points. If a proposal which is neither > Modest nor Grandiose is rejected, but meets quorum, the player who proposed > it loses 7 points. > > A proposal can only be declared to be Modest or Grandiose as defined by the > Rules. > > All players who voted on any proposal receive one point. > ASDFGHJKL > > {{[I know that I'm not going to be able to convince many of you that > antivoting is a bad thing so I won't even try, but this at least solves two > of the problems people have pointed out. It keeps the incentive for voting, > and it doesn't risk ruining the "economy".]}} ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:35:05 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3334 accepted Results of Proposal 3334 17/22 votes: Quorum achieved 10/15 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: Vynd (Vulcan) /dev/joe (Vulcan) K 2 Rex Mundi (Klingon) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred NO: else...if (SPAM) rufus (SPAM) Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) BAA!: Brie Clump breadbox ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3334 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:45 EDT > proposal submit > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > Remove the following text from Rule 950.3 (ASS Song: Werewolves of London) > " > b) it is determined that a player is being followed by the B-Ack, > " > and reletter the list from which it was removed. > > Repeal Rule 961 (Curse of the B-Ack). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:35:27 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3335 rejected Results of Proposal 3335 17/22 votes: Quorum achieved 7/12 YES votes: Proposal rejected YES: K 2 else...if (SPAM) JT (Boomerangs) Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) Slakko (SPAM) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred NO: /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump rufus (SPAM) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Publius BAA!: Vynd (Vulcan) Rex Mundi (Klingon) Attila the Pun breadbox Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3335 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:47 EDT > Punish The Unworthy > K 2 (Kelly Kelly) > > This is a Modest Proposal. > {{[It will prolly be a Boring Proposal as well ;)]}} > > Amend the paragraph of Rule 1250.22 (Bacon) wich currently reads: > " > If one player thinks that the other player's chain is invalid, then e may > challenge it up to three days after the chains are posted. The referee will > check each link in the Movie Database, and determine whether the chain is > valid. Otherwise, a chain will be assumed to valid if it goes unchallenged > for the three days. (If a player did not submit a Bacon chain for that > round, then eir chain is considered invalid.) > " > to read: > " > If one player thinks that the other player's chain is invalid, then e may > challenge it up to three days after the chains are posted. The referee will > check each link in the Movie Database, and determine whether the chain is > valid. If the chain is shown to be invalid, the player who challenged it > gains one gamepoint, however, if the chain is shown to be valid its author > shall gain one gamepoint. A chain will be assumed to valid if it goes > unchallenged for the three days. (If a player did not submit a Bacon chain > for that round, then eir chain is considered invalid.) > " ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:35:59 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3336 accepted Results of Proposal 3336 17/22 votes: Quorum achieved 14/16 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: Vynd (Vulcan) /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) JT (Boomerangs) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred NO: rufus (SPAM) breadbox BAA!: Alfvaen (MetaMorph) ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3336 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:54 EDT > She Set Your Goldfish Free > Publius (Brandon Ray) > > This is a modest proposal. > > Rule 211 is amended as follows: > > After the phrase: “Any CFJ whose statement is substantially similar, or > whose negative is substantially similar, to the statement of another CFJ > submitted by the same player within the past week, in the judgement of the > judge, shall be judged Invalid. This applies even in the case that the > previously submitted CFJ was retracted by the player in question.” > > Add the following JUSTICE delimited text: > > JUSTICE > However, the provisions of this paragraph shall not apply if the prior CFJ > was declared Invalid by the Clerk of Court due to a lack of eligible > judges, as provided in Rule 212. > JUSTICE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:36:23 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3337 rejected Results of Proposal 3337 17/22 votes: Quorum achieved 7/17 YES votes: Proposal rejected YES: /dev/joe (Vulcan) else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) Publius Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) NO: Vynd (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 rufus (SPAM) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) breadbox Ethelred BAA!: ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3337 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:55 EDT > To define Name Gaming as Annoying > Publius (Brandon Ray) > > This is a modest proposal. > > Add the following to the end of Rule 721: > > VI. Name Gaming > > Attempting to adopt an Ackanomic name which is substantially similar, in > the opinion of the Registrar, to the real name of any current or former > player of Ackanomic, regardless of the status of that current or former > player, is Annoying. It is also Confusing. > > {{Within seven days of this Rule taking effect, the Registrar shall make > Public Notice as to which Ackanomic names currently in use e deems to be > substantially similar to the real name of any current or former player of > Ackanomic. Within seven days of that Public Notice, the player(s) using the > Ackanomic names listed in the Public Notice must change those Ackanomic > names to legal names. Failure to do so is Annoying, as well as Stubborn.}} > > In addition to or in place of other penalties which may be prescribed in > the Rules, the Registrar may penalize those e finds in violation of Rule > 721, Section VI, by changing eir Ackanomic names to a random word chosen > from an unabridged dictionary, and posting this change as a Public Notice. > An Ackanomic name changed in this manner may not be changed again for such > period as the Registrar may prescribe (but such period shall not be greater > than 30 days). The Registrar may take the actions described in this > paragraph regardless of whether there has been a CFJ or CFCJ, and > regardless of the status or verdict of any CFJ or CFCJ, unless the verdict > specifically orders im not to do so, or specifically orders that the > disputed Ackanomic name be restored. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:36:40 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3338 accepted Results of Proposal 3338 17/22 votes: Quorum achieved 13/17 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: Vynd (Vulcan) /dev/joe (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) Attila the Pun Publius Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) MetaMorph Unity Vote NO: rufus (SPAM) Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) breadbox Slakko (SPAM) BAA!: Ethelred ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) IdiotBoy two-star Fortunato INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3338 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:56 EDT > A name is a name > JT (JT Traub) > > This is a modest proposal. > > Amend rule 251 (Player Names) as follows > Insert the following NAMES delimited text > NAMES > No player may choose as their Ackanomic name the Real Life name of any > current or former player at the time they make this choice. > NAMES > > {{ > If the player with the Real Life Name of Tom Walmsley has the Ackanomic > Name of 'Eric Plumb' or any anagram thereof, that player is renamed to Mr. > Tambourine Man. > }} > {{ > If the player with the Real Life Name of Eric Plumb has the Ackanomic Name > of 'Tom Walmsley' or any anagram thereof, that player is renamed to > 867-5309. > }} > > {{[ > I believe this allows any existing player who has their own RL name or the > RL name of some unknown future player to keep that name, as well as > preventing new players or existing players from taking on the RL name of > other players, which I consider to be a bad idea. The final two one-time > actions are done merely to reset the two names which prompted this proposal > to the names prior to their most recent change, including negating any use > of Blue Things to circumvent this. > ]}} ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:37:37 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3341 rejected Results of Proposal 3341 16/21 votes: Quorum achieved 7/13 YES votes: Proposal rejected YES: Vynd (Vulcan) Brie Clump K 2 Alfvaen (MetaMorph) Attila the Pun Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) Ethelred NO: /dev/joe (Vulcan) Rex Mundi (Klingon) JT (Boomerangs) Publius Slakko (SPAM) J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) BAA!: breadbox Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) IdiotBoy ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) two-star Fortunato rufus (SPAM) INACTIVE: else...if (SPAM) Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Zaknafein Dourden Studge Piz > Proposal 3341 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 10:59 EDT > A Million Household Uses > Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey) > > Amend Rule 1155, "Colours", by replacing "grey; indigo" with > "grey; harf; indigo". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:40:47 -0400 (EDT) From: nomicbot Subject: Acka: Proposal 3342 accepted Results of Proposal 3342 18/23 votes: Quorum achieved 14/19 YES votes: Proposal accepted YES: /dev/joe (Vulcan) else...if (SPAM) Rex Mundi (Klingon) Alfvaen (MetaMorph) JT (Boomerangs) Attila the Pun Slakko (SPAM) Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) Tom Walmsley (Boomerangs) Studge [Studge is no longer pending] IdiotBoy J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) Ethelred MetaMorph Unity Vote NO: Brie Clump K 2 two-star breadbox Publius BAA!: ABSTAINED: Calvin N Hobbes (Harf) ThinMan (Vulcan) Vynd (Vulcan) Fortunato rufus (SPAM) INACTIVE: Wild Card (SPAM) Joe Java (Boomerangs) Ayla Horny Protoceratops PENDING: Robin Hood Zaknafein Dourden Piz Rig R. Mortis > Proposal 3342 - Wed 29 Jul 1998 07:37 EDT > True Names > JT (JT Traub) > > {{[This is an attempt at a better solution than the one I submitted > earlier, and I think more poetic. However, I want to undo those changes if > they passed.]}} > > Remove section VI. titled Name Gaming from rule 721 if such a section > exists. {{[This undoes the annoying crime since if this passes, it won't be > possible to do.]}} > > Remove the following sentance, delimited by HACK from rule 251 (Player > Names) if it exists in that rule > HACK > No player may choose as their Ackanomic name the Real Life name of any > current or former player at the time they make this choice. > HACK > {{[I'd prefer to see the solution proposed here take effect, but if this > fails and P3338 passes, I'm willing to live with that fix in place which is > why I'm not retracting that proposal]}} > > Create a new rule 251.1 titled True Names with the following VINGE > delimited text > VINGE > Every Ackanomic player possesses, in addition to eir Ackanomic Name, > something known as eir True Name. > > When a player first joins Ackanomic, the Registrar will choose the new > players True Name as follows. > a) The True Name for the new player is initially set to that players Real > Life name. > b) If the form of this player's True Name is equivalent to the primitive > form of the True Name of any current or former player, the True Name of the > new player shall be suffixed by the '/' (slash) character followed by the > smallest possible positive integer that creates a unique name. [IE if two > players with the RL name of JT Traub joined the game, their True Names > would be 'JT Traub' and 'JT Traub/1' respectively] > > No player may (through any means) aquire an Ackanomic Name whose primitive > form is identical to the primitive form of the True Name of any current or > former player. This paragraph takes precedence over all other rules > regarding player names and their modification. > > No player may change their True Name, and the True Name of a player may > always be used as a valid and unambiguous reference for that player. > > {{ > All current and former players are assigned True Names as if they had just > joined the game. [I don't think there are any current conflicts] > }} > > Any player who has an Ackanomic Name which is currently in violation of > this rule has 7 days to choose a new valid Ackanomic Name. If they have not > chosen an Ackanomic name within that time, the Registrar will choose an > Ackanomic Name for them. At the end of 7 days, this paragraph repeals > itself from the rules. > > "the prudent sorceror regarded his own true name as his most valued > possession but also the greatest threat to his continued good health" > [Vernor Vinge, True Names] > VINGE > > Modify rule 409 (Registrar) by inserting the word 'player' between the > words 'their' and 'states' and by inserting the word 'current' between the > words 'their' and 'Ackanomic names' in section (a). {{[This just cleans up > some language.]}} > > Modify rule 409 (Registrar) by inserting the following ARCHIVE delimited > text as item (b) and then relettering the list as appropriate > ARCHIVE > (b) maintaining a list of all current and previous players, all Ackanomic > names held by them at any point, and their True Names. > ARCHIVE > {{[This last bit just makes formal the duties of the Registrar to maintain > a document which helps satisfy rule 348.]}} ------------------------------ End of acka-voting-digest V3 #122 *********************************