acka-research Digest Sunday, December 06 1998 Volume 03 : Issue 289 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: Auto-added titles in the subject line Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 00:55:39 -0500 (EST) On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, K 2 wrote: >Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! > > >Please don't, > >K 2 >hosing rules. You'll notice a recent proposal of mine. I kept hosing as I like it too :) Does that change your opinion? --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: Tom Walmsley Subject: Re: Acka: Mailing lists. Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 05:36:23 -0500 (EST) JT wrote: > On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote: > > Is it possible, as is the case with a number o other lists I'm on, to get > >the list-serving software to add the Acka: automatically? > > It is certainly possible to get the list software to do this. I was under > the impression that people did not wish this (since surely the old lists > could have done it, and it would mean the end of going postal). I will > certainly entertain doing so if a sufficient number of people would like > it *and* a large number of people don't object. I would strongly object to this. In my experience you often get things like: Acka: Re: Acka: Acka: Fw: Acka: something (fwd) Okay, so I'm exagerating, but the automatic annotation of the subject seems to add things in even when it's already there several times. Jenny. -- Tom Walmsley t.walmsley@lineone.net http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739 Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo. ------------------------------ From: Matt Miller Subject: Re: Acka: Auto-added titles in the subject line Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 09:36:42 -0500 (EST) I once asked esteemed Elder breadbox about doing this selfsame thing. He said that the Will of the People was against it. I will object to this change in the mailing lists, as well. IB On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, K 2 wrote: > Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Please don't, > > K 2 > hosing rules. > > JT wrote: > > > Come monday I am going to add automatically added subject tags to the > > subject lines of Ackanomic mail. > > > > I have heard 2 responses to my previous query, both asking me to do so. > > > > Unless I hear major outrage from large amounts of players, I will do this > > on monday. > > > > --JT > > > > [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] > > [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] > > [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] > > [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] > > > > > ------------------------------ From: Jonathan David Amery Subject: Re: Acka: Mailing lists. Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 09:58:34 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote: > I would strongly object to this. In my experience you often get things like: > > Acka: Re: Acka: Acka: Fw: Acka: something (fwd) > > Okay, so I'm exagerating, but the automatic annotation of the subject seems to > add things in even when it's already there several times. I was assuming that in common with other listservers I'm on that a modicum of sanity was used when coding it.... :-) -- Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ. ##### http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html o__####### Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats. \'####### Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo. Holding the Silver Key to the Vault. Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do. Touch the puppethead. ------------------------------ From: Gabe Drummond-Cole Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3829 Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 12:59:25 -0500 (EST) At 09:09 PM 11/28/98 -0500, you wrote: >Proposal 3829 >Debunking the OiCoRT >K 2 >Due: Sat Dec 5 21:09:46 1998 > > >1.1 Delete the following text from section e.iii in Rule 666 (End of >Cycle): >" >If there is a tie for Total Wealth, the Financier shall make the random >determination necessary to order the entities on the list. >" that text was not there. it was in section ii. -- Trent Crazy French-Scotsman, Daring Adventurer, Dungeon Master, Really Weird, Rules-Harfer, Worker Caste, Weird ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: Mailing lists. Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 13:58:29 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote: >> On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote: >> > Is it possible, as is the case with a number o other lists I'm on, to get >> >the list-serving software to add the Acka: automatically? >> >> It is certainly possible to get the list software to do this. I was under >> the impression that people did not wish this (since surely the old lists >> could have done it, and it would mean the end of going postal). I will >> certainly entertain doing so if a sufficient number of people would like >> it *and* a large number of people don't object. > >I would strongly object to this. In my experience you often get things like: > >Acka: Re: Acka: Acka: Fw: Acka: something (fwd) > >Okay, so I'm exagerating, but the automatic annotation of the subject seems to >add things in even when it's already there several times. Well, I know for a fact that Listar does not do this, and if it did, it would immediately get fixed. If that is your only reason to object, would you reconsider? --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: Auto-added titles in the subject line Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 14:01:09 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Matt Miller wrote: >I once asked esteemed Elder breadbox about doing this selfsame thing. He >said that the Will of the People was against it. See, I'd also asked him way back when and he said the same thing. However, I'm not convinced that's the case any longer. Well, that's why I asked to find out about the 'will' of the people. So far I've heard a couple of objections for reasons which I have tried to dispell. I have also heard 1 or 2 that are just that they plain don't like it. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ From: Gabe Drummond-Cole Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3841 rejected Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 21:54:33 -0500 (EST) I think 3841 was incorrectly reported... it should have read: At 09:47 PM 12/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >Proposal 3841 > >Votes: 15/23 (8 YES votes): Quorum met >Yes votes: 11/17: proposal accepted > >Tammany Bribes: >ThinMan A$50 yes > >Yes: > Alfvaen (MetaMorph) > Trent (Giant Objectionable Potato) > Euphrates > **** Bonus Vote (ThinMan) **** > /dev/joe (Vulcan) > Jenny (The Razor Boomerangs) > **** Bonus Vote (/dev/joe) **** > ThinMan (Vulcan) > Tammany > sIRE > JT (The Razor Boomerangs) > >No: > Robin Hood (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) > smallpox blanket (Klingon) > else...if > Vynd > Studge (Giant Objectionable Potato) > MTM (The Razor Boomerangs) > >Baa: > Slakko (SPAM) > >Abstain > r-attila the farce (Giant Objectionable Potato) > IdiotBoy (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party) > Niccolo Flychuck (MetaMorph) > K 2 > Calvin N Hobbes > rufus > Wild Card > two-star > >Pending & did not vote: > Danek > scout > Ballot Stuffer > >Vacationing & did not vote: > Aunt Froot > Ethelred > J. M. Bear (MetaMorph) > saaremaa (Vulcan) > >>Subject: Acka: Proposal 3841 >> >>Proposal 3841 >>Here Comes the Scam >>ThinMan >>Due: Sun Dec 6 21:09:19 1998 >> >> This is a Modest proposal. >> {{JT, /dev/joe, Trent, sirE, Jenny, and Alfvaen are each given >> A$1000 from the treasury. ThinMan is given A$10000 from the >> treasury}} -- Trent Crazy French-Scotsman, Daring Adventurer, Dungeon Master, Really Weird, Rules-Harfer, Worker Caste, Weird ------------------------------ From: Gabe Drummond-Cole Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3840 accepted Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 22:05:43 -0500 (EST) At 08:00 PM 12/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >Proposal 3840 > this prop had some problems. 1) it replaced indiscriminately in places; our ruleset now includes the phrase "an political partyal action" 2) it failed to replace the word organisation in places 3) it failed to "Renumber rule 1021" and then replace its text seeing as a) rule 1021 did not exist and b) it failed to give a number to which I was to renumber 1021 (I surmise that rule 1009 was to be renumbered to 1021, but it was quite ambiguous) 4) it repealed the rule 1020 that Alfvaen had just created a day or two prior instead of something else (not sure what) all in all, an exciting day for the rule-harfer -- Trent Crazy French-Scotsman, Daring Adventurer, Dungeon Master, Really Weird, Rules-Harfer, Worker Caste, Weird ------------------------------ From: Towsner Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3840 accepted Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 22:15:33 -0500 (EST) >1) it replaced indiscriminately in places; our ruleset now includes the >phrase "an political partyal action" >2) it failed to replace the word organisation in places >3) it failed to "Renumber rule 1021" and then replace its text seeing as a) >rule 1021 did not exist and b) it failed to give a number to which I was to >renumber 1021 (I surmise that rule 1009 was to be renumbered to 1021, but >it was quite ambiguous) >4) it repealed the rule 1020 that Alfvaen had just created a day or two >prior instead of something else (not sure what) I see no reason the newly appointed CSRR can't just fix this. The Will of the People is known, and I, for one, think it should be made official ASAP. The needed changes are to fix "political partyal" back to organizational, part 2 is irrelevant, renumber 1009 to 1021 and amend accordingly. I suggest not replacing 1020, since that needs to be rewritten for the new system anyway. -- -Henry Towsner Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and enjoy it. -Logan Pearsall Smith ------------------------------ End of acka-research Digest V3 #289 ***********************************