From: owner-acka-research@wilma.che.utexas.edu (Ackanomic Research Digest) To: acka-research-digest Subject: Ackanomic Research Digest V2 #119 Reply-To: acka-research@wilma.che.utexas.edu Sender: owner-acka-research@wilma.che.utexas.edu Errors-To: owner-acka-research@wilma.che.utexas.edu Precedence: bulk Ackanomic Research Digest Thursday, July 24 1997 Volume 02 : Number 119 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Jul 1997 12:48:38 CST/CDT From: Shimmin@hrn.bradley.edu Subject: Ackanomic Research Digest V2 #118 AC>Ackanomic Research Digest Wednesday, July 23 1997 Volume 02 : Number 118 AC>---------------------------------------------------------------------- AC>Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:06:31 -0500 (CDT) AC>From: Jason Orendorff AC>Subject: Re: Acka: Modesty, scoring, and anti-voting AC>> Does anyone else agree that these things are broken? Since I'd like AC>> to do away with both points and anti-voting AC> More power to you. You have whatever support I can muster any AC>time you want to try this. AC>- -- AC>Chaos AC>------------------------------ AC>End of Ackanomic Research Digest V2 #118 AC>**************************************** If you do try this, I ask you to separate the two issues. They are very much completely different aspects of the game. I would probably support getting rid of anti-voting IF it was replaced by some other from of vote-related reward. Otherwise, one can expect to see a large increase in PRESENT or perhaps even NO votes. Anti-voting's one saving grace is that it provides some means for arriving at a vote when one really does not care whether the proposal passes or not. As for doing away with points, their removal would leave an even larger gap in the Ruleset. Consider: 1) Almost all player income is point-derived 2) A good half-dozen or so of our most cherished entites would become either broken or at best BWG in a pointless nomic. Doing away with the point win is a worthwhile idea, as is changing the rules for acquiring points (for experimentation's sake, if nothing else). You could make them tradeable, make different flavors of them, or do any number of odd variations that might be more interesting than their current application. I oppose the elimination of points for elimination's sake. There is always less effort involved in repealing than reforming. This is one case where I feel it would be a mistake to take the easy way out. Guy Fawkes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 22:42:31 -0400 (EDT) From: John Frederic Mc Coy Subject: Re: Acka: P2231 rejected (And this is what it all comes down to) On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Acrobot wrote: > Proposal 2231 > And this is what it all comes down to > Mr. Lunatic Fringe > > Votes cast by active players: 14 / 18 = 77.777778% > Yes: 7 No: 6 Present: 1 ...Proposal rejected. > > > YES votes: > two-star > mr cwm > Techno > Alfvaen > Rex Mundi > Guy Fawkes > Vynd > > NO votes: > Chaos > /dev/joe > Niccolo Flychuck > breadbox > ThinMan > Malenkai > > PRESENT votes: > Karma > > Active players who did not vote: > Mr. Lunatic Fringe > You can call me Al > Robert Sevin > CarsesraC > fnord > Antimatter A noble effort, Mr Lnatic Fringe. You should definitely vote in favor os this, if it ever gets proposed again. As long as I'm here... didn't You can call me Al leave us awhile back? - Vynd jmccoy@umich.edu > > > Text of rejected proposal: > > ! Proposal 2231 > ! And this is what it all comes down to > ! Mr. Lunatic Fringe > ! Distributed at 02:01:42 on Wednesday, 16 July 1997 > ! > ! > ! Create a rule entitled "In his wildest dreams", numbered 2, with the > ! following text: > ! > ! {{Mr. Lunatic Fringe is a tradeable entity. His monetary value is A$63. > ! Upon the acceptance of this rule he will be transported to museum where he > ! will donate himself (to the mueseum). These actions are automatic and do > ! not require any public messages by Mr. Lunatic Fringe to be carried out}} > ! > ! Umm, er, uh, this is like the greatest day of my life, Beavis. > ! > ! > ! > ------------------------------ End of Ackanomic Research Digest V2 #119 ****************************************