From: owner-acka-games-digest@muppetlabs.com (acka-games-digest) To: acka-games-digest@muppetlabs.com Subject: acka-games-digest V2 #165 Reply-To: acka-games@muppetlabs.com Sender: owner-acka-games-digest@muppetlabs.com Errors-To: owner-acka-games-digest@muppetlabs.com Precedence: bulk acka-games-digest Monday, September 29 1997 Volume 02 : Number 165 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:15:19 -0400 From: Malenkai Subject: Re: Acka: YORL play Voting Gnome is asleep. He receives a card and it is Vynd's turn. Malenkai ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:23:01 -0400 From: "Vivian Norwood" Subject: Acka: viruses I'm not sure that it is legal for anyone to take over Alfvaen's spot, despite his desire to give it to Rex Mundi. In addition, I'm not sure if it is legal for mr. cwm to return to the game at this point. The relevant rule is shown below. During the first ten turns, new players may join the game by publicly announcing their intent, if they have not played in this instance of Viruses before; each new player gets three Place or Infect moves in his first turn instead of the usual one move. If a player retires from the game or leaves Ackanomic, while there still exist cells infected with that player's virus, a new player may join and take that player's virus as his own instead of the usual method of starting (but any new player doing so gets only one move of any allowed type in his first turn). Despite all the above, if a game of Viruses has the maximum number of players then no additional players may join. This seems to me to indicate that a new player may join by one of two methods, both of which can only be used during the first ten turns. Please let me know what your opinions are before I post the results of Round 14. Balsamic Dragon Referee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:56:59 -0500 From: "Bollinger, John C." Subject: RE: Acka: viruses > I'm not sure that it is legal for anyone to take over Alfvaen's spot, > despite his desire to give it to Rex Mundi. In addition, I'm not sure > if > it is legal for mr. cwm to return to the game at this point. The > relevant > rule is shown below. > > During the first ten turns, new players may join the game by > publicly announcing their intent, if they have not played in this > instance of Viruses before; each new player gets three Place or > Infect moves in his first turn instead of the usual one move. If a > player retires from the game or leaves Ackanomic, while there still > exist cells infected with that player's virus, a new player may > join and take that player's virus as his own instead of the usual > method of starting (but any new player doing so gets only one move > of any allowed type in his first turn). Despite all the above, if a > game of Viruses has the maximum number of players then no > additional players may join. > > This seems to me to indicate that a new player may join by one of two > methods, both of which can only be used during the first ten turns. > > Please let me know what your opinions are before I post the results of > Round 14. > My opinion is that the above portion of the rule does not forbid "new" players from taking over the position of an existing player after turn 10, although it does disallow startups from scratch. But that's just my opinion. I am quite certain, however, that the rule makes no provision for Alfvaen proactively passing his position to Rex Mundi or anyone else. If Rex Mundi asked specifically to take over Alfvaen's position then that might be allowed, but I don't believe that Alfvaen can just bestow the position on him. As for mr cwm, things are a little less clear to me. ThinMan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:08:00 -0400 (EDT) From: mr cwm Subject: Re: Acka: viruses On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Balsamic Dragon wrote: >I'm not sure that it is legal for anyone to take over Alfvaen's spot, >despite his desire to give it to Rex Mundi. In addition, I'm not sure if >it is legal for mr. cwm to return to the game at this point. I had assumed not, which explains my lack of move-submitting. - -mr cwm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:26:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: viruses > I'm not sure that it is legal for anyone to take over Alfvaen's spot, > despite his desire to give it to Rex Mundi. In addition, I'm not sure if > it is legal for mr. cwm to return to the game at this point. The relevant > rule is shown below. > > During the first ten turns, new players may join the game by > publicly announcing their intent, if they have not played in this > instance of Viruses before; each new player gets three Place or > Infect moves in his first turn instead of the usual one move. If a > player retires from the game or leaves Ackanomic, while there still > exist cells infected with that player's virus, a new player may > join and take that player's virus as his own instead of the usual > method of starting (but any new player doing so gets only one move > of any allowed type in his first turn). Despite all the above, if a > game of Viruses has the maximum number of players then no > additional players may join. > > This seems to me to indicate that a new player may join by one of two > methods, both of which can only be used during the first ten turns. When I wrote the rule, I intended for the ten turn limit and the restriction on not having played before to also apply to players taking the place of retired players. However, I don't think the rule actually says that -- "instead of the usual method" isn't particularly precise in this regard. /dev/joe ------------------------------ End of acka-games-digest V2 #165 ********************************