From: owner-acka-games@wilma.che.utexas.edu (Ackanomic Games Digest) To: acka-games-digest Subject: Ackanomic Games Digest V2 #109 Reply-To: acka-games@wilma.che.utexas.edu Sender: owner-acka-games@wilma.che.utexas.edu Errors-To: owner-acka-games@wilma.che.utexas.edu Precedence: bulk Ackanomic Games Digest Friday, July 4 1997 Volume 02 : Number 109 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:51:31 +0300 (EET DST) From: Uri Bruck Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe /dev/joe has won this round. The xt round begins, Alfaven starts. Niccolo Flychuck On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote: > I'll take the one point and finish this thing. The other strands are > just too long. I would love to surround 4 pieces at once and win the > whole game, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. > > Move 20 (C): > > Cb > CCbb > AbbAA > CCAAb Ac > CbbCCacc > AAbCaaBB > A aBBcB > BaaBcc > aBBcAAb > aacc Abb > CC > C > > /dev/joe > > ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:33:59 -0400 From: Malenkai Subject: Re: Acka: YORL play > play: betrayal betrayal is successfully played and burned. diamond is tied off and /dev/joe receives an ale. > I am attempting to interrupt this with the card "voices" This interrupt is successful. It is Vynd's turn. The game state is: Alfvaen (4 cards) /dev/joe (6 cards) (1 Ale) Voting Gnome (7 cards) - --> Vynd (6 cards) Mohammed (7 cards) ThinMan (7 cards) [Open Bench] [Open Bench] Remaining Cards: 39 Loose Ends: prophecy Burned Cards: 9 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 09:09:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe > /dev/joe has won this round. The xt round begins, Alfaven starts. Ah, now I'm back on familiar ground...:-) Move 1 (A) AA A - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--The Greg Kihn Band:Cheri Baby Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight If a Stealth craft crashes in a forest, does it make a sound? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:30:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 2 (b) AA bA bb /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:34:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 3 (C) AA bA bbC CC - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--The Beatles:Revolution No. 1 Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight Every word is like an unnecessary stain on silence and nothingness. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:42:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 4 (a) AA bAaa bbCa CC I had wondered why the rules left this little possibility for the 4th play. I guess we'll see what it turns into. /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:56:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 5 (B) AABB bAaaB bbCa CC > I had wondered why the rules left this little possibility for the 4th play. > I guess we'll see what it turns into. I wanted to try that...:-) - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--They Might Be Giants:Absolutely Bill's Mood Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight Look under the surface, and, if you're really lucky, there's more surface. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:04:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 6 (c) cc cAABB bAaaB bbCa CC /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:07:53 -0500 From: "Bollinger, John C." Subject: RE: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe /dev/joe wrote: > Move 4 (a) > > AA > bAaa > bbCa > CC > > I had wondered why the rules left this little possibility for the 4th > play. > An oversight? Is there any other possible configuration that would allow the move 4 a tromino to touch the move 1 A tromino? > I guess we'll see what it turns into. > Indeed. My first inclination would be to guess that symmetry, especially early on, favors the first player. To what degree, I cannot say. ThinMan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:16:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe > > AA > > bAaa > > bbCa > > CC > An oversight? Is there any other possible configuration that would > allow the move 4 a tromino to touch the move 1 A tromino? There are others if the second play is different, e.g. AAb Abb aaCC ac > My first inclination would be to guess that symmetry, > especially early on, favors the first player. To what degree, I cannot > say. Yeah, but the different letters break the symmetry. The letters are what really makes this an interesting game. /dev/joe Nice to see somebody else is watching the game. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:24:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 7 (A) > cc > cAABB > bAaaB > AbbCa > AACC - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--Prince:Automatic Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight Shared pain is lessened, and shared joy is increased. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:36:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 8 (b) cc cAABB bAaaB AbbCa AACCb bb /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:41:01 -0500 From: "Bollinger, John C." Subject: RE: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe /dev/joe wrote: [I wrote:] > > An oversight? Is there any other possible configuration that would > > allow the move 4 a tromino to touch the move 1 A tromino? > > There are others if the second play is different, e.g. > Okay, that doesn't preclude an oversight, but it does make it at least a little less likely. > > My first inclination would be to guess that symmetry, > > especially early on, favors the first player. To what degree, I > cannot > > say. > > Yeah, but the different letters break the symmetry. The letters are > what > really makes this an interesting game. > Indeed. > Nice to see somebody else is watching the game. :-) > I have been following the entire duel. I am, of course, an interested party (as /dev/joe's second), but the game goes quickly and has relatively simple rules and thus is easy to follow. Indeed, with /dev/joe and Alfvaen spending as much time at their keyboards as they (and I) apparently do, this duel seems to be going lightning quick. ThinMan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:53:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 9 (C) cc cAABB bAaaB AbbCaC AACCbCC bb - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--They Might Be Giants:Hot Cha Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight Pardon me, the cheese slipped off my cracker for a moment. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:25:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 10 (a) cc cAABB bAaaB AbbCaC AACCbCCa bbaa /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:30:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 11 (B) BB ccB cAABB bAaaB AbbCaC AACCbCCa bbaa - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight Does the name "Pavlov" ring a bell? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:37:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 12 (c) BB ccB cAABB ccbAaaB cAbbCaC AACCbCCa bbaa /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:44:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 13 (A) AABB AccB cAABB ccbAaaB cAbbCaC AACCbCCa bbaa - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight The apotheosis of the amanuensis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:52:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 14 (b) AABB AccB cAABB ccbAaaB cAbbCaC bAACCbCCa bb bbaa /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:56:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 15 (C) AABB AccB cAABB ccbAaaB cAbbCaC bAACCbCCa bbC bbaa CC - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight Stupid == careful plots to assassinate the cemetery. --billbill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:04:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 16 (a) AABB AccB cAABB ccbAaaB cAbbCaC bAACCbCCa bbC abbaa CCaa /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:19:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 17 (B) AABB BAccB BBcAABB ccbAaaB cAbbCaC bAACCbCCa bbC abbaa CCaa - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight I've got a match--your embrace and my collapse. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:24:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 18 (c) AABB BAccB BBcAABB ccbAaaBcc cAbbCaC c bAACCbCCa bbC abbaa CCaa /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:38:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 19 (A) AABB BAccB BBcAABB ccbAaaBcc cAbbCaC c bAACCbCCa AbbC abbaa AACCaa - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Song In My Head--Gwen Guthrie:Padlock Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight Nostalgia--stuffing seaweed cuttings up your nose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:25:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 20 (b) AABB BAccB BBcAABB ccbAaaBcc cAbbCaC c bAACCbCCa bbAbbC abbaa bAACCaa /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:06:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 21 (C) AABB BAccB BBcAABB ccbAaaBcc C cAbbCaC c CCbAACCbCCa bbAbbC abbaa bAACCaa - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Current Album--Firesign Theatre:The Tale of The Giant Rat of Sumatra Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight You were born, and so you're free. So Happy Birthday. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:51:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe Move 22 (a) AABB BAccB a BBcAABB aaccbAaaBcc C cAbbCaC c CCbAACCbCCa bbAbbC abbaa bAACCaa /dev/joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 20:54:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Humphrey Subject: Re: Acka: Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe > Move 22 (a) Ooh, clever. Move 23 (B) AABB BB BAccB Ba BBcAABB aaccbAaaBcc C cAbbCaC c CCbAACCbCCa bbAbbC abbaa bAACCaa - -- - --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/) Current Album--Billy Falcon:Pretty Blue World Current Book--Tanith Lee:East of Midnight Don't be too open-minded, your brains may slide out. ------------------------------ End of Ackanomic Games Digest V2 #109 *************************************