From: owner-acka-finance-digest@muppetlabs.com (acka-finance-digest) To: acka-finance-digest@muppetlabs.com Subject: acka-finance-digest V3 #112 Reply-To: acka-finance@muppetlabs.com Sender: owner-acka-finance-digest@muppetlabs.com Errors-To: owner-acka-finance-digest@muppetlabs.com Precedence: bulk acka-finance-digest Monday, June 15 1998 Volume 03 : Number 112 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:24:23 -0400 (EDT) From: JT Subject: Re: Acka: Fin: Reserve Meteing. On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Towsner wrote: >How about this: > I propose making the P-setting 0.4 > I propose making the N-setting 0.8 > Making things a little more volatile... I had thought that IB's changes would make things pretty hard. I'm all in favor of a bit more opportunity for market growth, so I also specify a P-setting of 0.4 and an N-setting of 0.8. I would (at least for the summer) so that we don't have a complete market crash if things keep moving so slowly want to consider possibly lowering the D-setting and raising the A-setting. - --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 04:22:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Duncan Richer Subject: Re: Acka: Purchase On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Towsner wrote: > >As an experiment, I hereby purchase 5 stocks. (I would appreciate knowing > >what I pay for them, if possible.) > You bought them (as did IB) at 33.6. What about the commission? 105% of the Stock Value at the time was 1.05*(33.6) = 35.28 The smallest integer greater than or equal to this is 36. So each stock cost Alfvaen and IdiotBoy A$36. Yours, Slakko Commission Guy - -- Duncan C. "" Richer aka Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 04:30:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Duncan Richer Subject: Acka: Auction Results The Otmza Card Shield auction held starting 8 Jun 1998 only had one valid bid in time. JT gets one card for A$10. I get the other card for A$0 (by default). Yours, Slakko - -- Duncan C. "" Richer aka Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 09:11:30 -0400 (EDT) From: K2 Subject: Re: Acka: Purchase And thus cost a round A$ 180... K 2 :) Towsner wrote: > >As an experiment, I hereby purchase 5 stocks. (I would appreciate knowing > >what I pay for them, if possible.) > You bought them (as did IB) at 33.6. > > -- > -Henry Towsner > > > > Success is the child of audacity. > -Benjamin Disraeli ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:32:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Towsner Subject: Re: Acka: Fin: Reserve Meteing. >I would (at least for the summer) so that we don't have a complete >market crash if things keep moving so slowly want to consider possibly >lowering the D-setting and raising the A-setting. I'd be willing to consider a change to A and D, but remember that activity is based on the previous day. Maybe dropping the A-setting to 0.1...(not that that's not a formal suggestion yet) - -- - -Henry Towsner Success is the child of audacity. -Benjamin Disraeli ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:33:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Towsner Subject: Re: Acka: Purchase >What about the commission? >105% of the Stock Value at the time was 1.05*(33.6) = 35.28 >The smallest integer greater than or equal to this is 36. >So each stock cost Alfvaen and IdiotBoy A$36. Sorry, I meant the stock value. I usually leave the commisions up to K2. But don't they pay 5*35.28 rounded up? I though rounding was done at the end of the whole purchase. - -- - -Henry Towsner Success is the child of audacity. -Benjamin Disraeli ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:40:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Duncan Richer Subject: Re: Acka: Purchase On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Towsner wrote: > >What about the commission? > >105% of the Stock Value at the time was 1.05*(33.6) = 35.28 > >The smallest integer greater than or equal to this is 36. > >So each stock cost Alfvaen and IdiotBoy A$36. > Sorry, I meant the stock value. I usually leave the commisions up > to K2. But don't they pay 5*35.28 rounded up? I though rounding was done > at the end of the whole purchase. My amendments which introduced commission made the rounding of purchase price _explicit_. The price anyone pays for each stock is forced to be an integer, without any other rule needing to impose rounding. - -- Duncan C. "" Richer aka Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 11:02:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Miller Subject: Re: Acka: Fin: Reserve Meteing. FWIW, I was considering making the A setting negative. IB Rebel Alliance. On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Towsner wrote: > >I would (at least for the summer) so that we don't have a complete > >market crash if things keep moving so slowly want to consider possibly > >lowering the D-setting and raising the A-setting. > I'd be willing to consider a change to A and D, but remember that > activity is based on the previous day. Maybe dropping the A-setting to > 0.1...(not that that's not a formal suggestion yet) > > -- > -Henry Towsner > > > > Success is the child of audacity. > -Benjamin Disraeli > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 11:08:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Towsner Subject: Re: Acka: Fin: Reserve Meteing. >FWIW, I was considering making the A setting negative. No. There's a risk that the number of actions on a given day + A-setting could be 0. - -- - -Henry Towsner Success is the child of audacity. -Benjamin Disraeli ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:39:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Towsner Subject: Acka: Ackan Reserve Financial Report Stock Market News: Assuming no futher announcements today, the following information will take affect tomorrow: Current Value: 15.5 Positivity Value: 0.0 Activity Value: 15.5 Change Today: -17.1 Change in Positivity: -20.1 (-21.2, PV may not go below 0) Change in Activity: +3.0 Percent Change: -53.3% Activities Today: 2 P-Setting: 0.1 (changed today) N-Setting: 0.05 (changed today) A-Setting: 0.2 D-Setting: 0.125 Market News: The market suffered a catastrophic collapse today as a surprisingly negative voting pattern combined with new settings designed to make the market more volatile resulted in a reduction of the positivity value to below 0. The market simultaneously suffered its largest collapse ever and fell to its lowest point ever. Reserve News: The AREB, already holding a meeting to discuss long term strategy for the next two or three months, has another problem to deal with. The total obliteration of the positivity value has added a new dimension to the discussions. Reserve Chair else promises immediate reforms. - -- The Ackan Reserve Financial Report Published by the board of the Ackan Reserve Coming daily since 1998 else...if ELSE...IF Chair, Ackan Reserve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:40:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Towsner Subject: Acka: Fin: Reserve Problems I go to the top floor of the Ackan Reserve's building. Alright, we have a problem. I suggest we set the P-setting to 0.1 and the N-setting to 0.05. Since IB already suggested this, it happens. And, since this seems as good an opportunity as any...I destroy the Vegetarian Lasagne for A$. I destroy the Poll 4 Win, the Small off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic Warden 33, It is Green, and 100 Ackadollars for A$. This gives me a total of A$1570. I use this to buy 92 stocks. I apologize profusely to all for this wanton destruction of trinkets (though I did save my favorites) - -- - -Henry Towsner Success is the child of audacity. -Benjamin Disraeli ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:15:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Miller Subject: Re: Acka: Fin: Reserve Problems On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Towsner wrote: > I go to the top floor of the Ackan Reserve's building. Me, too. Just for kicks. > > Alright, we have a problem. I suggest we set the P-setting to 0.1 > and the N-setting to 0.05. Since IB already suggested this, it happens. > And zay all laft at me back at zee.. ermm, oops. > And, since this seems as good an opportunity as any...I destroy the > Vegetarian Lasagne for A$. I destroy the Poll 4 Win, the Small off-duty > Czechoslovakian traffic Warden 33, It is Green, and 100 Ackadollars for A$. > This gives me a total of A$1570. I use this to buy 92 stocks. I apologize > profusely to all for this wanton destruction of trinkets (though I did save > my favorites) > I like this show of confidence in the market. Of course, one might see this as Insider Trading... IB whiny ------------------------------ End of acka-finance-digest V3 #112 **********************************