Common Sense Report 151 - Sat 29 Aug 1998 02:48 EDT
Weishaupt (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
Result: accepted; Mr. Tambourine Man objected on Sat 29 Aug 1998 16:30 EDT
Add the following to the literature list:
Artist: Robert Anton Wilson
Artist: Henry David Thoreau
Artist: Ralph Waldo Emerson
Artist: Ralph Ellison
Artist: Douglas Hofstadter
Artist: The Beegees
Artist: James Joyce
Artist: Ray Bradbury
Artist: Peter Suber ; Inventor of Nomic
Artist: Edwin A. Abbott ; author of Flatland
Artist: Green Day
Artist: "Weird Al" Yankovic
Artist: Sigmund Freud
Artist: Joseph Heller
Artist: Orson Scott Card
Artist: Arthur C. Clarke
Artist: Aeschylus ; Greek Playwright
Artist: Timothy Leary
Artist: The Doors
Artist: Vladimir Nabakov
Artist: Ernest Hemingway
Artist: F. Scott Fitzgerald
Artist: Buckminster Fuller
Artist: Chinua Achebe
Artist: Boris Pasternak
Artist: Thomas Hardy
Artist: John Locke
Artist: Thomas Hobbes
Artist: Robert Jordan
Artist: Stephen Hawking
Artist: Albert Einstein
Artist: Antoine de Saint Exupery ; Author of the Little Prince
Artist: A. A. Milne ; Author of Winnie the Pooh
Artist: Tom Robbins
Artist: Nathaniel Hawthorne
Artist: Bill Watterson ; Author of Calvin and Hobbes
Artist: Martin Luther
Artist: John Steinbeck
Artist: Matt Groening ; inventor of the simpsons, life in hell, etc.
Work: Sten Series ; 8 book SF saga by Allan Cole and Chris Bunch
Mr. Tambourine Man's Comment:Since everyone else has been objecting to my CSRs recently I think I'm going to object to this. My main problem is with having Peter Suber as literature since this would include the nomic initial set and we've already decided that having the rules of Ackanomic as iterature isn't a good idea since it is fairly easy to use. Quite a few of the other bits I agree with, although I must admit I've neer heard of quite a few ofthem.
Common Sense Report 152 - Wed 02 Sep 1998 17:31 EDT
Slakko (Duncan Richer)
Result: accepted
In Rule 1230.2, section 4, replace all instances of the phrase "Swinger's Office" with the word "Swingership", and then all instances of the word "Office" with "Swingership".
in Rule 1230.40, replace the text "the Swinger holding that Office" with "the Swinger owning that Swingership", and the text "the office changes hands" with "the Swingership changes hands".
Common Sense Report 153 - Thu 03 Sep 1998 15:36 EDT
Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
Result: accepted
In Rule 843 Section 4, replace the first occurance of 'nomination' with 'confirmation'.
Common Sense Report 154 - Fri 04 Sep 1998 19:18 EDT
Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
Result: rufus and Mr. Tambourine Man objected by Sat 05 Sep 1998 09:29 EDT
Append the following text to the end of rule 320:
"[Link to the governments]"
Replace the following OOPS delimited text with the following SORRY! delimited text:
OOPS
All existing Government Types are defined by rules within this rule
suite,
and then only by rules with a name "Government Type: " where is replaced
by
a legal Ackanomic name. The name of the Government Type as specified in
that rule shall then be . Such rules, and only such rules, are known as
Governmental Rules.
OOPS
SORRY
All existing Government Types are defined by rules within this rule
suite,
and then only by rules with a name "Government Type: X" where X is
replaced
by a legal Ackanomic name. The name of the Government Type as specified
in
that rule shall then be X (as used above). Such rules, and only such
rules, are known as
Governmental Rules.
SORRY
Renmuber rule 1390.8 to 320.6
Create a new rule reading as follows:
"{{The current government of Ackanomia is set to Democracy. All votes cast by any players since the adoption 3495 are counted. This rule takes precedence over rule 103 (Retroactive Effects)}}"
rufus' Comment:presumably, this creates a rule in the Miscellaneous Rule Suite? then the following won't work.
>
> "{{The current government of Ackanomia is set to Democracy. All votes
> cast by any players since the adoption 3495 are counted. This rule
> takes precedence over rule 103 (Retroactive Effects)}}" DUH
therefore, I object to this CSR
Mr. Tambourine Man's Comment:Oh poot! I object to this CSR too.
Common Sense Report 155 - Sat 05 Sep 1998 09:29 EDT
Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
Result: accepted
Append the following text to the end of rule 320:
"[Link to the governments]"
Replace the following OOPS delimited text with the following SORRY! delimited text:
OOPS
All existing Government Types are defined by rules within this rule
suite,
and then only by rules with a name "Government Type: " where is replaced
by
a legal Ackanomic name. The name of the Government Type as specified in
that rule shall then be . Such rules, and only such rules, are known as
Governmental Rules.
OOPS
SORRY
All existing Government Types are defined by rules within this rule
suite,
and then only by rules with a name "Government Type: X" where X is
replaced
by a legal Ackanomic name. The name of the Government Type as specified
in
that rule shall then be X (as used above). Such rules, and only such
rules, are known as
Governmental Rules.
SORRY
Renmuber rule 1390.8 to 320.6
Create a new rule called "You Moron Walmsley" numbered 321.1111839547 reading as follows:
"{{The current government of Ackanomia is set to Democracy. All votes cast by any players since the adoption 3495 are counted. This rule takes precedence over rule 103 (Retroactive Effects)}}"
Common Sense Report 156 - Sun 06 Sep 1998 16:00 EDT
Weishaupt (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
Result: TJ and breadbox objected by Sun 06 Sep 1998 17:26 EDT
Add the following to the literature list:
Artist: Jorge Luis Borges
Artist: Isaac Newton
Artist: Thomas Jefferson
Artist: Thomas Paine
Artist: Ezra Pound
Artist: Werner Heisenberg
Artist: Niels Bohr
Artist: Goethe ; Author of Faust
Artist: Talking Heads
Artist: Piers Anthony
Artist: Dylan Thomas
Artist: Bob Dylan
Artist: James Michener
Artist: Mel Brooks
Artist: The Marx Brothers
Artist: Dietrich Dehlinger ; Inventor of Aarkonian Bliffmeister
Artist: Karl Marx
Artist: Mao Tse-Tung
Artist: Sinclair Lewis
Artist: Lewis Carroll
Artist: C.S. Lewis
Artist: Fidel Castro
Artist: Ian Fleming
Artist: Adam Smith
TJ's Comment:I object to this CSR for this artist. I recognize most of the rest, but I don't think that literature should be too easy either.
breadbox's Comment:I humbly object to CSR 156.
Common Sense Report 157 - Tue 08 Sep 1998 11:15 EDT
Wild Card (Jonathan David Amery)
Result: accepted
Add to the Literature List the following:
Artist: Stephen Donaldson ; Author of Thomas Covenant and the Gap Series.
Artist: Charles Wesley ; Hymnwriter.
Artist: C.S. Lewis
Common Sense Report 158 - Wed 09 Sep 1998 18:44 EDT
Weishaupt (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
Result: IdiotBoy and Mr. Tambourine Man objected by Thu 10 Sep 1998 13:02 EDT
Add the following to the literature list:
Artist: Jorge Luis Borges
Artist: Isaac Newton
Artist: Thomas Jefferson
Artist: Thomas Paine
Artist: Ezra Pound
Artist: Werner Heisenberg
Artist: Niels Bohr
Artist: Goethe ; Author of Faust
Artist: Talking Heads
Artist: Piers Anthony
Artist: Dylan Thomas
Artist: Bob Dylan
Artist: James Michener
Artist: Mel Brooks
Artist: The Marx Brothers
Artist: Karl Marx
Artist: Mao Tse-Tung
Artist: Sinclair Lewis
Artist: Lewis Carroll
Artist: Fidel Castro
Artist: Ian Fleming
Artist: Adam Smith
IdiotBoy's Comment:I object to this CSR.
Mr. Tambourine Man's Comment:I object to this CSR on the grounds that some of the artists are already there.
Common Sense Report 159 - Thu 10 Sep 1998 13:54 EDT
Weishaupt (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
Result: JT and IdiotBoy objected by Thu 10 Sep 1998 14:43 EDT
Add the following to the literature list:
Artist: Isaac Newton
Artist: Thomas Jefferson
Artist: Thomas Paine
Artist: Ezra Pound
Artist: Werner Heisenberg
Artist: Niels Bohr
Artist: Goethe ; Author of Faust
Artist: Talking Heads
Artist: Piers Anthony
Artist: Dylan Thomas
Artist: Mel Brooks
Artist: The Marx Brothers
Artist: Mao Tse-Tung
Artist: Sinclair Lewis
Artist: Lewis Carroll
Artist: Ian Fleming
Artist: Adam Smith
JT's Comment:Just to be ornery, I'm going to object to this because of Piers Anthony. The guy writes too much drivel and I don't want to see it quoted as literature :)
IdiotBoy's Comment:On the off chance that this is a valid CSR and not the same CSR as the one to which I have already objected:
I object to this CSR.
Common Sense Report 160 - Thu 10 Sep 1998 18:09 EDT
Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
Result: Weishaput and rufus objected by Thu 10 Sep 1998 21:57 EDT
Amend the literature list by replacing "Nabakov" with "Nabokov"
Remove each of the following lines from the literature list:
Artist: Aeschylus ; Greek Playwright
Artist: Aristotle
Artist: Confucius
Artist: Descartes
Artist: Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Artist: Karl Marx
Artist: Leo Tolstoy
Artist: Plato
Artist: Sophocles
Artist: Sigmund Freud
Work: The Aeneid
Work: The Art of War ; by Sun-Tzu
Work: The Bible, Old and New Testaments
Work: The Prince ; by Machiavelli
Artist: Albert Einstein
Artist: Chaucer
Artist: Boris Pasternak
Artist: Dante Alighieri ; you know, The Inferno guy
Work: the Magna Carta
Artist: Friedrich Nietzsche
Work: The Decameron ; by Boccacio
Artist: Hermann Hesse
Artist: Jean-Paul Sartre
Weishaupt's Comment:I object. Although i agree with most of this, I have serious reservations about removing these artists/works without replacing them with applicable translations. Furthermore, there are some entries here for which no one *definitive* translation exists. Rather than taking this as an indication that they be removed from the list, I think this means that all reasonable translations (and this is not weasel-ish; it's easy to challenge) should be allowed.
rufus's Comment:I object to this CSR for much the same reasons as Weisphaut did. Also, isn't it inconsistent? I mean, surely Nabokov published things in Russian?
Common Sense Report 161 - Tue 15 Sep 1998 10:41 EDT
Wild Card (Jonathan David Amery)
Result: Weishaput and Mr. Tambourine Man objected by Tue 15 Sep 1998 13:02 EDT
If there is an entry in the literature list reading (WW-delimited)
WW
Work: The Bible, Old and New Testaments
WW
remove it.
Add to the literature list:
Work: The King James Version of the Bible, any books therin that exist.
Work: The Revised English Version of the Bible, any books therin that exist.
{{[KJV is the "traditional" ye olde version of the Book, REB is a pretty good modern translation.]}}
Weishaupt's Comment:I object, sorry. I think that it's a terrible idea to limit us to those translations as literature. Further, it's discriminatory; those Bibles will generally be the Bibles of Protestant denominations; Catholics and Jews (nd maybe Orthodox, i'm not sure) use their own translations which should be considered as valid. Further, these two translations aren't even definitive Protestant Bibles. What about all the other modern translations? The New American Standard is pretty good, in my opinion. But I wouldn't limit it to just the NAS. I think that it's a bad idea to limit the Bible (at least) like this.
Mr. Tambourine Man's Comment:I object to this too but for a totally different reason. And yes it's incredibly picky. My reason for objecting is that the syntax is not that required by the literature list. Try a semicolon instead of a comma.